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Seemingly there is a significant number of commentators which support the general removal of infobox collages. I think there is a great opportunity to get a general agreement on this matter. It is clear that it has to be a broad consensus, which must involve as many editors as possible, otherwise there is a big risk for this decision to be challenged in the near future. I opened a ''Request for comment'' process, hoping that more people will adhere to this proposal. Please comment [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups#The_necessity_of_galleries_of_personalities_in_the_infoboxes|here]]. [[User:TravisRade|TravisRade]] ([[User talk:TravisRade|talk]]) 23:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC) |
Seemingly there is a significant number of commentators which support the general removal of infobox collages. I think there is a great opportunity to get a general agreement on this matter. It is clear that it has to be a broad consensus, which must involve as many editors as possible, otherwise there is a big risk for this decision to be challenged in the near future. I opened a ''Request for comment'' process, hoping that more people will adhere to this proposal. Please comment [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups#The_necessity_of_galleries_of_personalities_in_the_infoboxes|here]]. [[User:TravisRade|TravisRade]] ([[User talk:TravisRade|talk]]) 23:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC) |
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:That is not an RfC and it doesn't follow the RfC process. It's just a collection of opinions and has no authority. <font face="Papyrus" size="3" color="#800080">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</font></sup> 23:13, 15 December 2015 (UTC) |
:That is not an RfC and it doesn't follow the RfC process. It's just a collection of opinions and has no authority. <font face="Papyrus" size="3" color="#800080">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</font></sup> 23:13, 15 December 2015 (UTC) |
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::The above comment about the RfC not being opened correctly has been challenged by several other editors. To my eyes there seems to be nothing wrong with the RfC. Please comment at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups#Proposal_for_the_deletion_of_all_the_galleries_of_personalities_from_the_infoboxes_of_articles_about_ethnic_groups]]. --[[User:TU-nor|T*U]] ([[User talk:TU-nor|talk]]) 07:57, 18 December 2015 (UTC) |
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Total population
The Total population figure asserted in the infobox has been undergoing changes recently. A few days ago, it was "~120 million", with no supporting source. Then, it was changed to 92,337,852 (2010 Census), citing that census. Now it says, 116 million, with "Combination of Filipinos living in the Philippines and Filipinos living abroad (OFW)" in a footnote which provides no verifiable support for that figure.
Here, I just edited the Overseas Filipinos article in an attempt to improve the assertions there abut the size of that population. My calculation there gives a figure for "Total Filipinos (2010)" of ~101.79 million. That does not include an estimated 3 million additional which this 2003 source (cited in the lead paragraph of this article) asserts were then working illegally abroad.
Unless sources are identified which support something different, I plan within the next few days to change the Total population figure in the infobox to agree with the "Total Filipinos (2010)" figure of ~101.79 million which is currently given in the Overseas Filipinos article. I will probably also add a mention of the additional 3 million reported by that 2003 source to be working illegally abroad over in that other article, and that may spark discussion over there which results in the population figure reported there being adjusted. Adjustments there might result in further adjustments here, but in any case these two articles ought to be kept in sync. Contradictions between articles can lead to messy resolution involving {{Contradict-other}}.
Discussion? Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:54, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Agila81 (talk) 08:28, 8 December 2015 (UTC) The total population on this article has no source and is assuming that the entire population of the Philippines are Filipinos. How many millions out of the total population are of Chinese descent? How many of Spanish and/or white descent? How many are foreign tourists? etc. We are talking about the Filipinos of Austronesian stock, with brown skin, so the real figure is going to be quite lower than the exaggerated number displayed now. So even if there are 110 million 'Filipinos' around the world, about 100-105 million would be considered ethnic Filipinos.
Agila81 (talk) 08:28, 8 December 2015 (UTC) Furthermore, the Moros are citizens of the Philippines but are considered a separate ethnic group from Filipinos. However, they are included in the total population, and there are at least 5 million Moro. There is already a 'Moro people' article in Wikipedia. So in essence, the total number should be smaller than what is shown in the info box if Moros are taken out of this figure due to being a different ethnicity.
Proposal for the deletion of all the galleries of personalities from the articles about ethnic groups
Seemingly there is a significant number of commentators which support the general removal of infobox collages. I think there is a great opportunity to get a general agreement on this matter. It is clear that it has to be a broad consensus, which must involve as many editors as possible, otherwise there is a big risk for this decision to be challenged in the near future. I opened a Request for comment process, hoping that more people will adhere to this proposal. Please comment here. TravisRade (talk) 23:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- That is not an RfC and it doesn't follow the RfC process. It's just a collection of opinions and has no authority. Liz Read! Talk! 23:13, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- The above comment about the RfC not being opened correctly has been challenged by several other editors. To my eyes there seems to be nothing wrong with the RfC. Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups#Proposal_for_the_deletion_of_all_the_galleries_of_personalities_from_the_infoboxes_of_articles_about_ethnic_groups. --T*U (talk) 07:57, 18 December 2015 (UTC)