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He isn't a historian but a Professor of Philosophy and Letters [https://www.cjh.org/lemkin/bios/Lang.php].[[User:Xx236|Xx236]] ([[User talk:Xx236|talk]]) 11:39, 17 May 2018 (UTC) |
He isn't a historian but a Professor of Philosophy and Letters [https://www.cjh.org/lemkin/bios/Lang.php].[[User:Xx236|Xx236]] ([[User talk:Xx236|talk]]) 11:39, 17 May 2018 (UTC) |
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: But he's also written on Holocaust history and he was described in the source that quoted him as a Holocaust historian. History is often a multidisciplinary field.[[User:Icewhiz|Icewhiz]] ([[User talk:Icewhiz|talk]]) 14:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC) |
: But he's also written on Holocaust history and he was described in the source that quoted him as a Holocaust historian. History is often a multidisciplinary field.[[User:Icewhiz|Icewhiz]] ([[User talk:Icewhiz|talk]]) 14:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Less than 50% of a BLP, biased
- The page lacks biographical informations.
- Kurek's views are summarized by her critics mostly. Here come Kurek's texts in Polish [1].
- As far as I understand Kurek claims that some Jewish leaders regarded ghettos as a form of Jewish authonomy (1939-1941). I don't know the texts to comment her opinions. However an opinion the Jews were complicit with the Nazis in organizing the wartime ghetto system is similar to Grabowski's description of complicity of terrorized peasants.
- Kurek has published a number of texts in Polish, not mentioned here. Jan Karski has written a foreword to one of her books. Strange that the fact isn't mentioned here.
Xx236 (talk) 11:16, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- We should reflect what is written about Kurek in WP:RS, noting guidelines for WP:FRINGE and WP:NFRINGE as well as BLP. If what is written in RS is negative - then that is what goes in. Note that as we have fairly high quality English sources, there is no need - per WP:NOENG (under which we prefer English sources of a similar or higher quality) to use Polish sources - particularly not for contentious subjects.Icewhiz (talk) 14:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- Ethnic Poles continued September 1939 war against Nazi Germany (Henryk Dobrzański) until death or until German revenge made the fight irrational. Ethnic Poles emigrated to fight. Ethnic Poles organised hundreds of underground groups, decimated by Germans. Kurek describes that at the time Jewish leaders helped to transfer Polish Jews to ghettos, does it make her "far-right"? Xx236 (talk) 06:38, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
far-right
If Kurek is far-right the same "Haaretzs" is far-left. We don't know Kurek's opinions about economy or law, to describe her position. Xx236 (talk) 11:30, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- Polish sources Newsweek and Gazeta Wyborcza are also close to Haaretz. Xx236 (talk) 11:43, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Berel Lang
He isn't a historian but a Professor of Philosophy and Letters [2].Xx236 (talk) 11:39, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- But he's also written on Holocaust history and he was described in the source that quoted him as a Holocaust historian. History is often a multidisciplinary field.Icewhiz (talk) 14:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Sources
Multibook.pl or an iUniverse book are acceptable sources.GizzyCatBella (talk) 05:35, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- iUniverse is SPS. multibook does not meet any rs criteria. Note that per WP:FRIND for fringe theory proponents we must use high quality 3rd party sourcrs, which neither of these are.Icewhiz (talk) 05:58, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Kurek a Holocaust denier
Can you explain this entry? [3]GizzyCatBella (talk) 06:04, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- Most indpendent sources that cover her clearly note she is known for Holocaust denial or distortion. We have a few such sources in the article.Icewhiz (talk) 06:25, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- Can you precisely reference this substantial claim? GizzyCatBella (talk) 06:42, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- Most indpendent sources that cover her clearly note she is known for Holocaust denial or distortion. We have a few such sources in the article.Icewhiz (talk) 06:25, 18 May 2018 (UTC)