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:::::Huh? I was referring to Persian, you know, the sole official language of Iran? Please re-read my comment(s). Moreover, I am still awaiting an explanation from you. Since you like to attempt to lecture me with guidelines, let me return the favour; please read [[WP:STONEWALLING]]. --[[User:HistoryofIran|HistoryofIran]] ([[User talk:HistoryofIran|talk]]) 18:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC) |
:::::Huh? I was referring to Persian, you know, the sole official language of Iran? Please re-read my comment(s). Moreover, I am still awaiting an explanation from you. Since you like to attempt to lecture me with guidelines, let me return the favour; please read [[WP:STONEWALLING]]. --[[User:HistoryofIran|HistoryofIran]] ([[User talk:HistoryofIran|talk]]) 18:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::@[[User:HistoryofIran|HistoryofIran]]: I assume that you are saying something like "I demoted Persian" or "I promoted Kurdish", and I asked for the ID of the revision where I added some content like that. Also, what explanation do you want from me? That you remove every "Kurdish" you see in the article by specifying the reason in your revision message? [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Mahsa_Amini&oldid=1111575757 This recent revision] is enough explanation for anyone. I did not even involve in that section :) [[User:Roj im|Roj im]] ([[User talk:Roj im|talk]]) 19:04, 21 September 2022 (UTC) |
::::::@[[User:HistoryofIran|HistoryofIran]]: I assume that you are saying something like "I demoted Persian" or "I promoted Kurdish", and I asked for the ID of the revision where I added some content like that. Also, what explanation do you want from me? That you remove every "Kurdish" you see in the article by specifying the reason in your revision message? [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Mahsa_Amini&oldid=1111575757 This recent revision] is enough explanation for anyone. I did not even involve in that section :) [[User:Roj im|Roj im]] ([[User talk:Roj im|talk]]) 19:04, 21 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::::{{ping|HistoryofIran|Roj im}} There's no point in squabbling. Since she has Kurdish background, and her name is known in Kurdish as well as in Persian, I think both can be added. Preferably with Persian first, given that it's the official language of Iran.-- [[User:Ideophagous|Ideophagous]] ([[User talk:Ideophagous|talk]]) 19:10, 21 September 2022 (UTC) |
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Should we change the name of article to "mahsa amini"? 185.111.13.174 (talk) 06:21, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- No, because she isn't notable. It's her death & the reaction to it which are. I moved the article to Killing of, when the article portrayed her death as a certain killing. The article now portrays it as a suspicious death. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 12:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
'Furthermore, various videos of the violent method of arresting women by Mortality police officers in the cyber space, indicate the violent treatment of the police against women'
I have no clue what this sentence are trying to say Trade (talk) 20:07, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Press TV blacklisted
The government's official response is here "Iran president orders thorough probe into case of women who collapsed at police station" (presstv.ir) https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/09/18/689433/Iran-President-Raeisi-orders-probe-Amini-case
I think the Iranian government's English news website is banned on Wikipedia. Thus, their answer can't be added to the article. 24.125.105.21 (talk) 18:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Readjusting the sections
Hello. I think the "biography" section should be removed, and its content distributed on other appropriate sections (namely the following one, and the reaction). I remind everyone that this is an article about an event (the death of a person), not about the person themselves, who in this case lack notability (the event however is notable). For reference, please read WP:N and related articles. If there's no opposition, I will proceed to make the adjustments. Ideophagous (talk) 18:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Done.-- Ideophagous (talk) 19:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Name
I dont know much about family of Arabic languages, but I think Zhina and Jina are both derogatory name put on her, either by local media or authorities. The words are similar to Zina. Hysocc (talk) 07:39, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Farsi & the Kurdish languages aren't Arabic. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 09:53, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- (e/c) According to this, it's a name of Kurdish origin meaning "life". It has nothing to do with the Arabic meaning. Nehme1499 09:57, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
More on the reverted revisions of @HistoryofIran
Hey @HistoryofIran, I noticed that you removed some content by making a change directly, and not discussing it in advance in the talk page. Before you do something like that, you should bring your intents here and let it be discussed briefly. Also, please read Wikipedia:Consensus. Roj im (talk) 15:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- The Kurdish transliteration is something new that was added, therefore I am not violating anything. In fact, you are the one violating it. I have already explained my reasoning [1]. However, you are yet to do that. You even put the Kurdish transliteration before the Persian one this time, the sole official language of the country. Care to explain why you did that as well? --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- @HistoryofIran: I repeat, the revision message is not enough reasoning. You should provide reliable sources. Please refer to Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable_sources. I also did not add anything, I just improved the currently existing content. I would not revert your revisions this time, but let a moderator get involved. Roj im (talk) 18:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Provide reliable sources? For what? Sorry, but that’s not how discussions work here, nor real life for that matter; Could you explain yourself? And why you put Kurdish before the only official language of the country? HistoryofIran (talk)
- @HistoryofIran: Could you please give me the ID of the revision where I added any content stating that Kurdish is the official language of anywhere? Roj im (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Huh? I was referring to Persian, you know, the sole official language of Iran? Please re-read my comment(s). Moreover, I am still awaiting an explanation from you. Since you like to attempt to lecture me with guidelines, let me return the favour; please read WP:STONEWALLING. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- @HistoryofIran: I assume that you are saying something like "I demoted Persian" or "I promoted Kurdish", and I asked for the ID of the revision where I added some content like that. Also, what explanation do you want from me? That you remove every "Kurdish" you see in the article by specifying the reason in your revision message? This recent revision is enough explanation for anyone. I did not even involve in that section :) Roj im (talk) 19:04, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- @HistoryofIran and Roj im: There's no point in squabbling. Since she has Kurdish background, and her name is known in Kurdish as well as in Persian, I think both can be added. Preferably with Persian first, given that it's the official language of Iran.-- Ideophagous (talk) 19:10, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- @HistoryofIran: I assume that you are saying something like "I demoted Persian" or "I promoted Kurdish", and I asked for the ID of the revision where I added some content like that. Also, what explanation do you want from me? That you remove every "Kurdish" you see in the article by specifying the reason in your revision message? This recent revision is enough explanation for anyone. I did not even involve in that section :) Roj im (talk) 19:04, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Huh? I was referring to Persian, you know, the sole official language of Iran? Please re-read my comment(s). Moreover, I am still awaiting an explanation from you. Since you like to attempt to lecture me with guidelines, let me return the favour; please read WP:STONEWALLING. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- @HistoryofIran: Could you please give me the ID of the revision where I added any content stating that Kurdish is the official language of anywhere? Roj im (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Provide reliable sources? For what? Sorry, but that’s not how discussions work here, nor real life for that matter; Could you explain yourself? And why you put Kurdish before the only official language of the country? HistoryofIran (talk)
- @HistoryofIran: I repeat, the revision message is not enough reasoning. You should provide reliable sources. Please refer to Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable_sources. I also did not add anything, I just improved the currently existing content. I would not revert your revisions this time, but let a moderator get involved. Roj im (talk) 18:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)