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== Holistic approach. == |
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Need for holistic approach to treating IBS, or Crohns. |
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I have been following this disease since 2002, and note that some holistic sources have always claimed that a 'parasitic' infection was the cause of this. |
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These same sources have also suggested a three fold treatment. |
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1. anti-biotic natural. |
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2. fiber |
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3. probiotics. |
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We need a listing for these suggested treatment types and some reliable sources. |
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External links section
There was an WP:Edit war about a big list of external links added to the article. I agree that a lot of them fail per WP:EL or were just not necessary. I do think that the Crohn's Colitis organizations do belong as they are very useful for the reader and the article. I also think that the Alan Kennedy one Study using RMAT to treat Crohn's disease may be useful for the article either as an external link or maybe incorporated into the article. Can I have some thoughts about this please? Thanks, --CrohnieGalTalk 11:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Fixed the divbox. Sorry Crohnie, gotta disagree. WP:ELNO is explicit on the support organizations (#10). However, the DMOZ does allow linking to support groups, and there are a vareity to be found on it. I would suggest that anyone who think their support group is worth linking to in some way bring this up at the DMOZ project to add to the CD DMOZ page. Unfortunately I can't help with the hows - I believe it's wiki-style editorial review, but with much looser restrictions than wikipedia.
- As for the Kennedy article, per ELNO #1 it's also a bad link - it should be integrated as a inline citation and used in the page rather than blankly linked to. It's a good link of convenience if the article isn't available freely already, but it might be a copyright problem. The Mad Cow link I also removed - if it's not published somewhere in a medically reliable source, it's undue weight, possibly a fringe issue to link to it. If it's the position of a sizeable minority, it should be documentable in medical journals and textbooks and not linked to a "some guy" webpage. WLU (t) (c) (rules - simple rules) 14:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, I missed the closing part you fixed, thanks. You did good! As for the DMOZ one, yes it was here but an editor argued that it couldn't be here, forget the reasoning now and I refused to get into edit wars and stick with a one revert except for vandalism. Your right about the Kennedy one, I think it should be inline in the article. There is no problem with copywrite with it as Alan has it posted all over the net with permissions. (He used to go to a web support group for CD that I used to go to. I'll have to think about it and reread his info to see if it still would apply though since it's really been a long time since I read his site. He has some, well at least he did have I need to check, good resources linked to his page. So maybe that would be the best way to go with it. Thanks for your input again, it keeps me honest here! --CrohnieGalTalk 14:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Merge with colitis
I don't really know how to do this but would it not be a good idea to merge this and the colitis article and they are both the same condition? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.64.73.199 (talk) 23:08, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
The merger wouldn't be appropriate as the two conditions are different, treatments vary though symptoms are somewhat similar. I have Crohns and it is different. Regards Zippomk2 (talk) 11:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- I also agree, the two disease are very different. Colitis involves the large colon and is curable with surgery. Crohn's disease can attack from the mouth to the anus and there is no cure for it. So there is a reason for separate articles on these. I hope this explains why. --CrohnieGalTalk 13:28, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Prevalence #s?
I recently had a family member diagnosed with Crohn's and while reading this article noticed some inconsistencies in the math.
Crohn's disease affects between 400,000 and 600,000 people in North America.[5]
With there being roughly half a billion people in North America the prevalence would be, roughly, 1:1000 or 100:100,000
The incidence of Crohn's disease has been ascertained from population studies in Norway and the United States and is similar at 6 to 7.1:100,000.[90][91]
Assuming even the low end of [5] at 400,000 people affected and a prevalence rate of 6:100,000 the population of North America would have to be above five billion.
I have not read all the studies referenced in this post, nor am I statistician, but it seems that something was misquoted or inaccurate for their to be such a difference in the numbers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Folstar (talk • contribs) 20:16, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Recent discovery.
Thanks to a dr. Lower for bringing this to my attention.
Regrets I was not able to find how to reference this to the artilce, hopefully someone with more time may change it.
thanks
"BUGGING OF THE INTETINAL MUCOSA" Clara Abraham, MD, Judy H. Cho MD
- A recent report in the New England Journal of Medicine, August 16, 2007 states that while past investigations into suspected bacterial infections were not proven, currently the disease is believed to be the result of "excessive intestional immune activation that is driven by either luminal bacteria as a whole or perhaps particular bacterial subpopulations."
--Caesar J.B. Squitti: Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti (talk) 04:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- The ref for this requires a sign up to view the whole text. My question though is this a ref that requires a paid subscription to view the information? If it does then I respectfully request a ref that can be viewed for free. I saw that the login said for a trial view of articles or somehting along these lines. I don't think that articles that require a person to pay to view the ref is allowed. Could someone clarify this for me please? --CrohnieGalTalk 17:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it requires a paid subscription. Freely available sources are preferred, but those that require payment are certainly allowed; see WP:MEDRS#Accessing sources. You can request a copy of the article at WP:LIBRARY—I've found their services to be excellent :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 18:45, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I have a copy to email or fax or otherwise ?
--Caesar J.B. Squitti: Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti (talk) 19:41, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Holistic approach.
Need for holistic approach to treating IBS, or Crohns.
I have been following this disease since 2002, and note that some holistic sources have always claimed that a 'parasitic' infection was the cause of this.
These same sources have also suggested a three fold treatment.
1. anti-biotic natural.
2. fiber
3. probiotics.
We need a listing for these suggested treatment types and some reliable sources.
--Caesar J.B. Squitti: Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti (talk) 21:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)