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Neutral As the nominator, I am neutral on the location of the list, but the list should exist somewhere. -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 04:55, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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NOTE this discussion followed WP:BRD, reverting the BOLD redirection and opening this discussion, but the person who removed the navigation list clearly doesn't want to discuss things over, since he deleted [2] the discussion here. -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 06:56, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
RM is not the correct venue for determining this matter. There are no other "Crimean crises" that are known as the "Crimean crisis", and the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is clearly the 2014 crisis. The "dab" was created by disruptive user Nickst, who also created associated "Crimean crisis" redirects to go along with it. None of the redirects are valid, and none are extant in RS. They are total OR. The only one that should exist is Crimean crisis, and this needs to be remedied at once. I've now removed the links to prove the point. None of the linked articles are titled "Crimean crisis" anything, and hence this dab or potential set index is entirely invalid. Please stop this nonsense and restore the redirect. RGloucester — ☎ 14:38, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The article you chose to call "Crimean crisis" is not actually titled that way on Wikipedia. So your choice isn't the the Crimean crisis either. This is an RM because it is the proper venue to decide if your choice of primary topic is the primary topic, since the page will be moved if it is, so making a redirect (your preferred option) happen after the page is moved. Nevertheless, other pages are bluelinks with "Crimean crisis" as part of their pagenames. All these are redirects, including the page you chose to leave on the list. The argument that the article is the only one called "Crimean crisis" is wrong, since your choice isn't called that either. It's called "Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation" which clearly does not contain "Crimean crisis" anywhere in the title. -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 04:06, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Correct. However, the only one of these that RS referred to as the "Crimean Crisis" is the 2014 event, hence WP:PRIMARYTOPIC status. However, you are right about that, which is even more proof that there should be no disambiguation page. RGloucester — ☎ 04:13, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's why it's no longer a disambiguation page. The term "Crimean crisis" is unreferenced in the target article. Hence, why this is a requested move so if you claim that the 2014-etc event is primary topic, the list gets displaced. Show me some proof nothing else is called "Crimean crisis" because Google Book Search certainly does not show that. It shows several Crimean crises.[3] ; The list is certaintly incomplete, because there have been many crises, and they have been called "Crimean crisis". -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 04:21, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, by the way, it doesn't matter if there have been other crises in Crimea. Those should not appear here. Only events TITLED "Crimean Crisis" by RS should appear here, and only one is titled such in the history books. RGloucester — ☎ 14:42, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Pengyanan, Neo-Jay, and Nickst: Pinging the creator and person who added entries to this page -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 04:09, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Again, a dab would not list every event that was a "crisis" in "Crimea", only events referred to by RS specifically as the "Crimean Crisis". There is only one event so-titled by RS. The others are totally invalid. RGloucester — ☎ 04:18, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Your "choice" of a Crimean crisis is unreferenced in its article, so by your standard, should not be listed either, because no RS was provided there. But since you keep deleting things I can't even work on improving this page to fix the problems you perceive. -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 04:23, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There are many sources in the relevant article, but anyone who hasn't had their head in the ground would know that that event was and is commonly called "Crimean Crisis" at the time it occurred, prior to the annexation. Here is one example, here is another. You won't find any such sources for any of the other so-called "Crimean crises", because none of those were ever termed "Crimean Crisis". RGloucester — ☎ 04:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]