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You're obviously confusing "Jewish" for nationality. He wasn't joking on Howard Stern Show when he told that he comes from an Irish-Catholic family from his father's side and Jewish from his mother's side. It was also mentioned in a 2005 Rolling Stone article. And LOL at "ethinicelebs" being more reliable about his background than the man himself! This is not even taken seriously as a source on Wikipedia. You're in denial and making a fool of yourself. |
You're obviously confusing "Jewish" for nationality. He wasn't joking on Howard Stern Show when he told that he comes from an Irish-Catholic family from his father's side and Jewish from his mother's side. It was also mentioned in a 2005 Rolling Stone article. And LOL at "ethinicelebs" being more reliable about his background than the man himself! This is not even taken seriously as a source on Wikipedia. You're in denial and making a fool of yourself. |
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== Now, who's being delusional!?! == |
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Now who's being delusional. You are you fool!^ |
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== Gonna erase that line about his Mother being a Jewish accountant, okay? == |
== Gonna erase that line about his Mother being a Jewish accountant, okay? == |
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Cornell Siblings
In the previous version of this page there was reference to the musician siblings of Chris Cornell who were also active in the Seattle music scene in the 90's and are still active in music today. Regardless if there is very little reference material about their music achievements available, they should still be included as close family in the early life section, not just erased. Roobz1 (talk) 15:32, 31 May 2017 (UTC) Roobz1 (talk) 15:32, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
- Children have to be notable on their own to be included per Infobox person#children. - Mlpearc (open channel) 15:35, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
The siblings were mentioned before. Try #relatives in infobox. They're notable. Roobz1 (talk) 16:22, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Roobz1 (talk) 16:22, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Where are his daughters', wife's, parent's Wikipedia articles? Totally not trying to argue. I just don't understand why it's not relevant that he came from an actively musical siblinghood. Worse, why would it not be relevant that he has siblings? Not understanding why the sibling part was erased. A tweaked sentence in the early life section would probably suffice. Wikipedia is meant to be a free encyclopedia with current, historical, biographical and notable information relevant to topics or people- more than just information related to achievements only. That's what makes Wikipedia great, it's more than IMDB or ALL Music. Wikipedia can give a clearer picture of a topic, or in this case, a man's life. Roobz1 (talk) 13:49, 1 June 2017 (UTC) Roobz1 (talk) 13:49, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- Then all you have to do is find reliable sources that discuss this, and/or create articles about the siblings that are reliably sourced. --‖ Ebyabe talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 18:13, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Infobox
Various times in the past, people have introduced "infobox person" (embedding the existing infobox musical artist), most recently Zoolver. I have reverted because it strikes me as rather silly and introducing superfluous details into the infobox. Spouse, children, etc are irrelevant to Cornell's notability and don't need to be prominently displayed on top of his musical career. That's my argument but I'm interested in hearing others in favor, if there are some. --Spike Wilbury (talk) 18:13, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Right, I introduced that. I didn't think it would be a problem since I saw the same details in other musicians' infobox such as Kurt Cobain, Bob Marley, Bob Dylan, Chester Bennington, and Mick Jagger - where every girlfriend is listed, to name a few. At least in Cornell's case only wives were listed and one of them was also his manager for nearly 20 years, therefore a major factor in his career. --Zoolver (talk) 03:31, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Zoolver: I guess I just don't like how it stacks that stuff (spouses and children) on top of their musical career information, which seems more important. Any way to change that? --Spike Wilbury (talk) 11:21, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, you can use infobox musical artist as the primary (showing first, at the top) and add infobox person as the child;: at the end of musical artist, add infobox person. use this for code instead of embed: | module = {{Infobox person|child=yes
LIke this
Chris Cornell | |
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![]() Cornell in September 2011 | |
Background information | |
Birth name | Christopher John Boyle |
Born | Seattle, Washington, U.S. | July 20, 1964
Died | May 18, 2017 Detroit, Michigan, U.S. | (aged 52)
Genres | |
Occupation(s) |
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Instrument(s) |
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Years active | 1984–2017 |
Labels | |
Spouse(s) |
Susan Silver
(m. 1990; div. 2004)Vicky Karayiannis
(m. 2004; "his death" is deprecated; use "died" instead. 2017) |
Children | 3 |
Website | chriscornell |
References
- ^ a b "Chris Cornell Tickets in Boston Massachusetts, Dallas Texas, Nashville Tennessee, Chicago Illinois, Denver Colorado, & Los Angeles California". Benzinga.com. June 6, 2015. Retrieved July 20, 2016.
- ^ Costa, Emilia (October 22, 2009). "Chris Cornell Rocks Grand Opening of Hard Rock Cafe Las Vegas!". Spin. Retrieved July 2, 2015.
Image
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Chris_Cornell_Montreux_Jazz_Festival_2005.jpg/220px-Chris_Cornell_Montreux_Jazz_Festival_2005.jpg)
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/ChrisCornellTIFFSept2011.jpg/220px-ChrisCornellTIFFSept2011.jpg)
Is File:Chris Cornell Montreux Jazz Festival 2005.jpg really a better image for the infobox than File:ChrisCornellTIFFSept2011.jpg? An IP just changed it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:24, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
90s image of Cornell perhaps?
Even though Cornell found success in the early 90s there isn't a single photo of him on here or on Wikimedia older than around 2005. I think, especially in light of Cornell's recent death, that an image from the 90s as the main image would benefit the article, as it reflects the image he had during his first wave of success. Does anybody have one they'd be able to use? Vicious Friendly Fish (talk) 12:33, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- This is a good idea. I know someone who got a camera into a early 90's Bumbershoot festival in which Soundgarden played. I'll see if he can find the photos and scan them. Terry Foote (talk) 13:42, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
and Karen Cornell, a Jewish accountant.
and Karen Cornell, a Jewish accountant. Whoever rewrote this added it again or whatever is an idiot. You so want him to be Jewish, but he's not!! He was only joking on the Howard Stern show and his biography has nothing about his Mother being Jewish, or him! You're an idiot Here look here fool!: ethnicelebs.com/chris-cornell: Ethnicity: Norwegian, Irish, English, Scottish, Northern Irish, Welsh, German, French, remote Manx and Swiss-German. Not a hint of Jew in him, you fool!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.167.39.149 (talk) 04:07, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
You're obviously confusing "Jewish" for nationality. He wasn't joking on Howard Stern Show when he told that he comes from an Irish-Catholic family from his father's side and Jewish from his mother's side. It was also mentioned in a 2005 Rolling Stone article. And LOL at "ethinicelebs" being more reliable about his background than the man himself! This is not even taken seriously as a source on Wikipedia. You're in denial and making a fool of yourself.
Now, who's being delusional!?!
Now who's being delusional. You are you fool!^
Gonna erase that line about his Mother being a Jewish accountant, okay?
I'm going to erase that line about his Mother being Jewish and being an accountant. Is that okay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.167.39.149 (talk) 08:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Done; the extent in most biographical articles into how much emphasis is placed on pinning down religions and ethnicity.... Unless one is a priest, it does not matter. Also, somewhere in the article it has been lost that Chris Cornell converted to Greek Orthodoxy because of his second wife (who is). In the end it does not matter. Now the article says he did not believe in any religion and he was cremated and had a non-Orthodox funeral. All this seems so fleeting after circumstances change; just a moment away. Fylbecatulous talk 18:39, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
You people are funny. The information about his parents background had been on Wikipedia for years, then the man dies and it gets erased. Even his drug use as a child got erased although he talked about it several times in his lifetime. What's the matter in mentioning his parents' background? this is mentioned in several articles on wikipedia and no one whines about it. You're trying to rewrite history! Wikipedia should be impartial! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.101.218.49 (talk) 09:08, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
OH YES!!!
OH YES YOU'RE 100% RIGHT!!! NOT!!! BECAUSE YOU DO OR SHOULD KNOW!!! THAT Wikipedia is NEVER EVER USED IN University references for assignments and essays!!! And if it is, you get marks off for quoting Wikipedia. And Chris Cornell's ancestry of his parents background WAS changed long before he died (God rest his soul) You have no proof or eveidence Or what have you to claim that his Mother or him was Jewish "nationality" wise or otherwise. Look up Jew or Not Jew! They are always 99.9% correct, It's from the horses mouth so to speak. [1]
Well now what are you going to do Fylbecatulous?
Well now what are you going to do Flybecatulous in regards to this?^^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.167.39.149 (talk) 14:03, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Fylbecatulous does not care. I am happy I contributed a useable infobox to this talk page and I am sad Chris Cornell died. Bye. Fylbecatulous talk 11:48, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ Jew or Not Jew: Chris Cornell www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=1805 Mar 14, 2014 - (Christopher John Boyle) July 20, 1964 – May 17, 2017. Is grunge the new disco? Hear us out. In the 90s, everyone was making fun of disco.