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:::::The RFC is on using Electronic Intifida in the lead of a BLP. It is emphatically not on faithfully reporting what Le Monde Diplomatique and JTA have reported anywhere else. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<font color="#C11B17">nableezy</font>]]''' - 18:11, 9 October 2018 (UTC)</small> |
:::::The RFC is on using Electronic Intifida in the lead of a BLP. It is emphatically not on faithfully reporting what Le Monde Diplomatique and JTA have reported anywhere else. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<font color="#C11B17">nableezy</font>]]''' - 18:11, 9 October 2018 (UTC)</small> |
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::::::The RfC is on whether the text is to be ''used,'' period. The person initiating the RfC cited four policies, principally UNDUE which is unrelated to sourcing, and the subsequent commenters (beginning with Icewhiz) were fully aware of the Le Monde Diplomatique op-ed. It had no impact on the RfC and did not make it "obsolete" or void or any other such rubbish. [[User:Coretheapple|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple|talk]]) 18:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC) |
::::::The RfC is on whether the text is to be ''used,'' period. The person initiating the RfC cited four policies, principally UNDUE which is unrelated to sourcing, and the subsequent commenters (beginning with Icewhiz) were fully aware of the Le Monde Diplomatique op-ed. It had no impact on the RfC and did not make it "obsolete" or void or any other such rubbish. [[User:Coretheapple|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple|talk]]) 18:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC) |
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:::::::Nope, it very clearly says that EI reference in that lead, and I brought the Le Monde Diplomatique article, note not an op-ed as you dishonestly claim here, after the RFC was started, indeed after Icewhiz commented there, making that two false claims by you in one comment. I really dont know why you insist on distorting these things. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<font color="#C11B17">nableezy</font>]]''' - 19:40, 9 October 2018 (UTC)</small> |
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Le Monde
In what world is removing what Le Monde Diplomatique says a BLP action? Explain that abuse of process or this goes somewhere like ANI or AE. nableezy - 21:44, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Canary_Mission_and_Adam_Milstein nableezy - 21:55, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- There is a RfC open on this issue in the BLP's bio. Le Monde Diplomatique merely describes the content of a leaked doco which was not published - being canned by AJ.Icewhiz (talk) 03:34, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- No, the RFC is open on an EI source and including it in the lead of the bio. You cannot just blank reliable sources because you dislike what they said. Also both uninvolved editors at BLP/N agreed this material is not a BLP violation. nableezy - 15:13, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- You have got to be kidding. There is a pending RfC, and it is far from going in the direction you desire, and in fact since RfCs require a clear consensus to add disputed material in BLPs you are in breach of it. Coretheapple (talk) 16:25, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- The RFC is on using Electronic Intifida in the lead of a BLP. It is emphatically not on faithfully reporting what Le Monde Diplomatique and JTA have reported anywhere else. nableezy - 18:11, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- The RfC is on whether the text is to be used, period. The person initiating the RfC cited four policies, principally UNDUE which is unrelated to sourcing, and the subsequent commenters (beginning with Icewhiz) were fully aware of the Le Monde Diplomatique op-ed. It had no impact on the RfC and did not make it "obsolete" or void or any other such rubbish. Coretheapple (talk) 18:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- Nope, it very clearly says that EI reference in that lead, and I brought the Le Monde Diplomatique article, note not an op-ed as you dishonestly claim here, after the RFC was started, indeed after Icewhiz commented there, making that two false claims by you in one comment. I really dont know why you insist on distorting these things. nableezy - 19:40, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- The RfC is on whether the text is to be used, period. The person initiating the RfC cited four policies, principally UNDUE which is unrelated to sourcing, and the subsequent commenters (beginning with Icewhiz) were fully aware of the Le Monde Diplomatique op-ed. It had no impact on the RfC and did not make it "obsolete" or void or any other such rubbish. Coretheapple (talk) 18:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- The RFC is on using Electronic Intifida in the lead of a BLP. It is emphatically not on faithfully reporting what Le Monde Diplomatique and JTA have reported anywhere else. nableezy - 18:11, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- You have got to be kidding. There is a pending RfC, and it is far from going in the direction you desire, and in fact since RfCs require a clear consensus to add disputed material in BLPs you are in breach of it. Coretheapple (talk) 16:25, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- No, the RFC is open on an EI source and including it in the lead of the bio. You cannot just blank reliable sources because you dislike what they said. Also both uninvolved editors at BLP/N agreed this material is not a BLP violation. nableezy - 15:13, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- There is a RfC open on this issue in the BLP's bio. Le Monde Diplomatique merely describes the content of a leaked doco which was not published - being canned by AJ.Icewhiz (talk) 03:34, 9 October 2018 (UTC)