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:Quoting from B Cohen {{tq|Across the river, angered, the great Vijayanagar king Krishnadevaraya opted to march against the Qutb Shah leader. He came with 30,000 horses and 3,000 foot soldiers. Quli Qutb responded, and the two armies met at Pangal where the Vijayanagar army had encamped. In battle, the Golconda forces were successful, forcing the retreat of Krishnadevaraya who left behind a small force to defend the fort.}} [[User:ImperialAficionado|<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color:Blue;">Imperial</span>]][[User talk:ImperialAficionado|<span style="font-family: 'Garamond'; color:Purple;"><sup><nowiki>[AFCND]</nowiki></sup></span>]] 09:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC) |
:Quoting from B Cohen {{tq|Across the river, angered, the great Vijayanagar king Krishnadevaraya opted to march against the Qutb Shah leader. He came with 30,000 horses and 3,000 foot soldiers. Quli Qutb responded, and the two armies met at Pangal where the Vijayanagar army had encamped. In battle, the Golconda forces were successful, forcing the retreat of Krishnadevaraya who left behind a small force to defend the fort.}} [[User:ImperialAficionado|<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color:Blue;">Imperial</span>]][[User talk:ImperialAficionado|<span style="font-family: 'Garamond'; color:Purple;"><sup><nowiki>[AFCND]</nowiki></sup></span>]] 09:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::Only from B Cohen's statement, others don't support (both primary and secondary) [[User:Sathyashraya|Sathyashraya]] ([[User talk:Sathyashraya|talk]]) 09:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC) |
::Only from B Cohen's statement, others don't support (both primary and secondary) [[User:Sathyashraya|Sathyashraya]] ([[User talk:Sathyashraya|talk]]) 09:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Invented name?
@DeepstoneV, is there any source that explicitly state this as "Battle of Pangal"? If no, we are not keeping the article Imperial[AFCND] 09:13, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- There are sources that states "Battle of Pangal" or "Battle of Pangul" DeepstoneV (talk) 10:22, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Presence of Krishnadevaraya
@DeepstoneV Can u cite me a source which says Krishnadevaraya was present at the siege or in Garrison? Sudsahab (talk) 05:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- The Battle of the Krishna^^: 1520 A.D,
- Meanwhile, as soon as his arrangements were ready, the Adil Shah moved with a force of 120,000 foot, 18,000 horses*® and 150^ elephants to the relief of Raichoor, But though fewer in numbers, its effectiveness was more than counter balanced by the very strong artillery he had brought with him. On reaching the Krishna, as he found all the fords held by the troops of Vijayanagar, he encamped on its northern bank choosing his position welL Giving orders to his engineers to build the necessary number of rafts, he waited quietly for some days expecting the Vijayanagar army to cross the river and engage him where he was. 0 ut finding the Hindus unwilling to be drawn into the snare which he had spread for them, he at last settled to take the initiative himself. So, one day in a moment of intoxication he crossed the river with 250 elephants*’ and a part of his army not more than 2,000 men**. With these he marched to within three leagues of Krishijia’s camp And the source-The History Of The Vijayanagar Empire
- u cited no where mention about the battle of pangal(i am talking about only this source).Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
- Best regards,@Sudsahab Sudsahab (talk) 05:35, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Krishnadevaraya opted to march against the Qutb Shah leader. He came with 30,000 horses and 3,000 foot soldiers. Quli Qutb responded, and the two armies met at Pangal where the Vijayanagar army had encamped. In battle, the Golconda forces were successful, forcing the retreat of Krishnadevaraya who left behind a small force to defend the fort.
. This is from page number 47, Kingship and Colonialism in India’s Deccan 1850–1948 written by Benjamin B Cohen. Best DeepstoneV (talk) 11:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
AI tools and view of different sources
A page whose language is an AI-generated version with the information being of different of variety of the same event and doesn't confirm the count of the army of both the sides and the results as well, most of the information about this battle is hidden and only a half-baked history being shared
Raya's presence
Most of the sources given here themselves do not support the statement of Krishnaraya being present in the battle rather than only of his forces and an officer to defend the fort of Pangal, also there are reasons for the same thing given in the same book by Sharma which was also not included here Sathyashraya (talk) 09:10, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Quoting from B Cohen
Across the river, angered, the great Vijayanagar king Krishnadevaraya opted to march against the Qutb Shah leader. He came with 30,000 horses and 3,000 foot soldiers. Quli Qutb responded, and the two armies met at Pangal where the Vijayanagar army had encamped. In battle, the Golconda forces were successful, forcing the retreat of Krishnadevaraya who left behind a small force to defend the fort.
Imperial[AFCND] 09:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)- Only from B Cohen's statement, others don't support (both primary and secondary) Sathyashraya (talk) 09:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry. You cannot remove a cited information, whether there is one or more. Pinging author @DeepstoneV. Imperial[AFCND] 09:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Only from B Cohen's statement, others don't support (both primary and secondary) Sathyashraya (talk) 09:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)