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To the India subsection of the Asia section, please add, "[[M._K._Stalin]], the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister issued an oral order to the police department not to permit any kind of poojas, archanas, feeding of the poor, live telecast of the consecration of the idol of Lord Raam at Ayodhya, bhajans and processions of Lord Ram in any temple of Tamil Nadu irrespective of whether it is a private temple or a temple controlled by the Tamil Nadu Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments Department but a petition was moved in the Supreme Court of India and the oral order was quashed paving the way for all of those on 22nd January, 2024. The petition had stated that “such arbitrary exercise of power by the State government (through police officers) per se, violates fundamental rights guaranteed under the Constitution”.<ref name="Raam2024">{{cite web | last=Rajagopal | first=Krishnadas | title=Ram temple consecration: Police, authorities not bound to act on ‘oral orders’ to ban live telecast, programmes, says SC order | website=The Hindu | date=2024-01-22 | url=https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ram-temple-consecration-plea-in-sc-challenges-tn-govts-oral-order-against-live-telecast-in-state/article67764424.ece | access-date=2024-01-22}}</ref> [[Special:Contributions/49.37.169.10|49.37.169.10]] ([[User talk:49.37.169.10|talk]]) 17:36, 22 January 2024 (UTCUTC) |
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Please remove the word, "Hinduphobia" from the lead. Hinduphobia means fear of Hindus but anti-Hindu sentiment means sentiments against Hindus and Hinduism which is not the same. [[Special:Contributions/2405:204:5682:8044:0:0:11B7:30B0|2405:204:5682:8044:0:0:11B7:30B0]] ([[User talk:2405:204:5682:8044:0:0:11B7:30B0|talk]]) 11:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:Duplicate request. [[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] ([[User talk:Capitals00|talk]]) 18:57, 22 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests|before]]''' using the {{tlx|edit semi-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ESp --> This seems to be a common usage of the term, and is similar to homophobia, transphobia, and other non-fear uses of the -phobia suffix. [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 12:01, 27 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::This is not a duplicate request - it is completely different from what is requested in the next section. Please add that sentence.-[[Special:Contributions/2406:7400:90:E1AA:B186:9E26:B6BF:FA70|2406:7400:90:E1AA:B186:9E26:B6BF:FA70]] ([[User talk:2406:7400:90:E1AA:B186:9E26:B6BF:FA70|talk]]) 18:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:: Hinduphobia can be replaced with Hindu detestation. |
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:::{{Done}}'''.''' ''⸗ [[User:Antrotherkus|Antrotherkus]] <sup>❲ [[User talk:Antrotherkus|Talk to me!]] ❳</sup> ⸗'' 00:14, 21 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests|before]]''' using the {{tlx|edit semi-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 10:46, 28 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::{{U|TrangaBellam}}, {{U|Kautilya3}}, {{U|Jnanashuddhi}}, {{U|Extorc}}, {{U|WikiLinuz}}, {{U|CapnJackSp}}, you people may want to discuss and replace Hinduphobia with Hindu detestation in the lead (the first sentence) as the previous IP is asking.-[[Special:Contributions/202.140.62.212|202.140.62.212]] ([[User talk:202.140.62.212|talk]]) 14:10, 2 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::: Wikipedia is written by summarising [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 14:42, 2 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::::{{U|TrangaBellam}}, {{U|Kautilya3}}, {{U|Jnanashuddhi}}, {{U|Extorc}}, {{U|WikiLinuz}}, {{U|CapnJackSp}}, then you people must delete the term Hinduphobia from the lead as it is unsourced and unrelated to, "anti-Hindu sentiment (phobia means fear)".-[[Special:Contributions/202.140.62.212|202.140.62.212]] ([[User talk:202.140.62.212|talk]]) 10:46, 5 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::You can't define a word yourself, and taking it apart doesn't work. Antisemitism does not mean being against semites, eg Arabs, it is specifically about Jews. The word Hinduphobia means fear or hatred or both. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 13:07, 5 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::Stop pinging me. --[[User:WikiLinuz|<span style="font-family:Optima;color:#292928;">WikiLinuz</span>]] {[[User_talk:WikiLinuz|<span style="font-family:Optima;">talk</span>]]} <span style="color:transparent;text-shadow:0 0 0 red;font-size:15px;">🍁</span> 15:24, 5 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::Please avoid blanket pings :). The current argument of literal translation seems inappropriate, feel free to leave better arguments if you find any. Cheers. [[User:CapnJackSp|Captain Jack Sparrow]] ([[User talk:CapnJackSp|talk]]) 09:19, 6 September 2022 (UTC) |
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Why was the controversy section deleted? I saw that there were discussions about it, but I didn't see anything specifically about people agreeing to delete it. |
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Please add this to the India subsection of the Asia section, "Speaking at a [[Sanātana Dharma|''Sanatana dharma'']] abolition conference, [[Udhayanidhi Stalin]] advocated for its "eradication" and said that it is against social justice and equality.<ref name="anti-Hinduism" /> |
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The action was heavily condemned in Malaysia by groups of organizations that represents Sanathana Dharma including, Malaysia Hindu Sangam, United Malaysian Hindu Voice ([https://umhv.com.my/ UMHV]), National Malaysia Hindhudharma Maamandram, and other notable NGOs.<ref>{{cite news |last=Bureau |first=Indus Scrolls |date=6 September 2023 |title=Malaysia Hindu Sangam condemns Udayanidhi Stalin’s hatred against Sanatana Dharma, writes to the High Commission of India requesting Indian Government to act |pages=1 |work=Indus Scrolls |publisher=INDUSSCROLLS |publication-place=Ghaziabad, Uttar Pradesh, India |url=https://indusscrolls.com/malaysia-hindu-sangam-condemns-udayanidhi-for-anti-sanatan-remarks-papa-stalin-supports-son |access-date=27 November 2023}}</ref> which is copied from the Udayanidhi Stalin article. [[Special:Contributions/49.37.169.10|49.37.169.10]] ([[User talk:49.37.169.10|talk]]) 17:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Hindu_sentiment&oldid=1072879834#Controversy [[User:Sawerchessread|Sawerchessread]] ([[User talk:Sawerchessread|talk]]) 21:30, 20 October 2022 (UTC) |
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:{{notdone}} Indus scrolls is an unreliable source. We have to see how reliable sources have described his statements as. [[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] ([[User talk:Capitals00|talk]]) 18:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC) |
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::Then please add just this to the India subsection of the Asia section, "Speaking at a [[Sanātana Dharma|''Sanatana dharma'']] abolition conference, [[Udhayanidhi Stalin]] advocated for its "eradication" and said that it is against social justice and equality.<ref name="anti-Hinduism">{{Cite news |last=Bureau |first=The Hindu |date=2023-09-02 |title=Sanatana is against social justice and has to be eradicated: Udhayanidhi |language=en-IN |work=The Hindu |url=https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/sanatana-is-against-social-justice-and-has-to-be-eradicated-udhayanidhi/article67264565.ece |access-date=2023-09-02 |issn=0971-751X}}</ref> - [[Special:Contributions/2406:7400:90:E1AA:B186:9E26:B6BF:FA70|2406:7400:90:E1AA:B186:9E26:B6BF:FA70]] ([[User talk:2406:7400:90:E1AA:B186:9E26:B6BF:FA70|talk]]) 18:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC) |
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I still would like to add this back in. Though anti-hindu sentiment is undeniable, the term Hinduphobia is actively debated in South Asian political academia as appropriate or a catch-all to group criticism of hindutva ideology. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Sawerchessread|Sawerchessread]] ([[User talk:Sawerchessread#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sawerchessread|contribs]]) 19:09, 31 December 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::{{notdone}} Please make your request in the talk page of the article where you wish to see this change. [[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 19:34, 31 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:::I am requesting someone to add the above sentence with the cited reference to this article itself, that is the, [[Anti-Hindu sentiment]] article, in the India subsection of the Asia section. Please do so. Please also answer the request in the previous section.-[[Special:Contributions/2406:7400:90:1E99:CA60:118F:4AE5:4FA0|2406:7400:90:1E99:CA60:118F:4AE5:4FA0]] ([[User talk:2406:7400:90:1E99:CA60:118F:4AE5:4FA0|talk]]) 14:58, 4 February 2024 (UTC) |
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::::{{ping|Vanamonde93|RegentsPark}} can you please add the above text or answer why it is unacceptable? - [[Special:Contributions/2406:7400:98:1CA3:5434:3134:7A32:C894|2406:7400:98:1CA3:5434:3134:7A32:C894]] ([[User talk:2406:7400:98:1CA3:5434:3134:7A32:C894|talk]]) 14:06, 22 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Definitions section == |
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::::::You have to show [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] for supporting your claim that the person was promoting anti-Hindu sentiment. [[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] ([[User talk:Capitals00|talk]]) 11:21, 25 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{partly done|Partly done:}}<!-- Template:ESp --> I added the information from [[Wikipedia:THEHINDU|The Hindu]] as this is a consensus reliable source. The rest cannot be added as explained above. [[User:Jamedeus|Jamedeus]] ([[User talk:Jamedeus|talk]]) 01:56, 29 February 2024 (UTC) |
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{{U|TrangaBellam}}, it seems (I haven't checked) that the "Definitions" section came from merging a page on Hinduphobia into this one, and it hasn't been revised for this page. The section makes no sense as it stands. |
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Even otherwise, nobody has said that "anti-Hindu sentiment" equates to "Hinduphobia". I don't mind a section on the latter being present here, but the main content itself should be regarding the former. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 17:51, 23 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:I will reiterate V93's comment:{{talkquote|I'm not attached to the section, but honestly the material therein is among the better material in the article; the rest is such garbage. Agreed entirely, TB; more generally, prejudice against hindus (which I would prefer as a section title; "sentiment" is weird in this circumstance) is real, and for that very reason, needs to be precisely delineated, and separated from people crying wolf over it.}} [[User:TrangaBellam|TrangaBellam]] ([[User talk:TrangaBellam|talk]]) 17:53, 23 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:: Since the section heading has been changed, it would be helpful to insert the word being discussed (Hinduphobia) in the first sentence of the paragraph, in place of the [which] tag currently present. {{tq|Scholar Jeffery D. Long defines the term Hinduphobia as an irrational aversion of Hindus or Hinduism.}} [[Special:Contributions/117.194.200.183|117.194.200.183]] ([[User talk:117.194.200.183|talk]]) 20:13, 23 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Clarification == |
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<s>{{re|Vanamonde93}} In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Hindu_sentiment&diff=prev&oldid=1219557892&title=Anti-Hindu_sentiment&diffonly=1 this] edit summary you seem to be accusing me. However, I want to clarify that I only corrected the link in the edit just before your edit (and the one before that was just to fix a typo). I am not the author of that sentence.-[[User:Haani40|Haani40]] ([[User talk:Haani40|talk]]) 19:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)</s> |
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:I didn't name you, did I? The content needs to be supported explicitly by a source. [[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde93]] ([[User talk:Vanamonde93|talk]]) 15:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC) |
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In the UK section, please add, "51% Hindus feel they are bullied, forced to convert and had beef thrown at them due to what is taught in schools in the UK according to a report.<ref name="Henry Jackson Society 2023">{{cite web | title=Anti-Hindu Hate In Schools | website=Henry Jackson Society | date=12 April 2023 | url=https://henryjacksonsociety.org/event/anti-hindu-hate-in-schools/ | access-date=20 April 2023}}</ref> [[Special:Contributions/49.205.146.96|49.205.146.96]] ([[User talk:49.205.146.96|talk]]) 10:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC) |
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El C, I edit Wikipedia occassionally. Please let me know what is wrong with the first paragraph you removed by this edit. The source used does say that.
Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2021
Please change X (no info) to "Several thousand supporters of Hefazat-e-Islam’s leader Mamunul Haque in Bangladesh attacked a Hindu village in March 2021, which resulted in the ransacking and looting of many houses and the vandalization of 70-80 houses."[1]
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- ^ "Extremist Islamist group's supporters attack 70-80 Hindu houses in Bangladesh: Police". India Today. 20 March 2021.
Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2024
To the India subsection of the Asia section, please add, "M._K._Stalin, the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister issued an oral order to the police department not to permit any kind of poojas, archanas, feeding of the poor, live telecast of the consecration of the idol of Lord Raam at Ayodhya, bhajans and processions of Lord Ram in any temple of Tamil Nadu irrespective of whether it is a private temple or a temple controlled by the Tamil Nadu Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments Department but a petition was moved in the Supreme Court of India and the oral order was quashed paving the way for all of those on 22nd January, 2024. The petition had stated that “such arbitrary exercise of power by the State government (through police officers) per se, violates fundamental rights guaranteed under the Constitution”.[1] 49.37.169.10 (talk) 17:36, 22 January 2024 (UTCUTC)
- Duplicate request. Capitals00 (talk) 18:57, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a duplicate request - it is completely different from what is requested in the next section. Please add that sentence.-2406:7400:90:E1AA:B186:9E26:B6BF:FA70 (talk) 18:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Done. ⸗ Antrotherkus ❲ Talk to me! ❳ ⸗ 00:14, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a duplicate request - it is completely different from what is requested in the next section. Please add that sentence.-2406:7400:90:E1AA:B186:9E26:B6BF:FA70 (talk) 18:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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- ^ Rajagopal, Krishnadas (2024-01-22). "Ram temple consecration: Police, authorities not bound to act on 'oral orders' to ban live telecast, programmes, says SC order". The Hindu. Retrieved 2024-01-22.
Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2024 (2)
Please add this to the India subsection of the Asia section, "Speaking at a Sanatana dharma abolition conference, Udhayanidhi Stalin advocated for its "eradication" and said that it is against social justice and equality.[1] The action was heavily condemned in Malaysia by groups of organizations that represents Sanathana Dharma including, Malaysia Hindu Sangam, United Malaysian Hindu Voice (UMHV), National Malaysia Hindhudharma Maamandram, and other notable NGOs.[2] which is copied from the Udayanidhi Stalin article. 49.37.169.10 (talk) 17:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Not done Indus scrolls is an unreliable source. We have to see how reliable sources have described his statements as. Capitals00 (talk) 18:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Then please add just this to the India subsection of the Asia section, "Speaking at a Sanatana dharma abolition conference, Udhayanidhi Stalin advocated for its "eradication" and said that it is against social justice and equality.[1] - 2406:7400:90:E1AA:B186:9E26:B6BF:FA70 (talk) 18:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Not done Please make your request in the talk page of the article where you wish to see this change. RegentsPark (comment) 19:34, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- I am requesting someone to add the above sentence with the cited reference to this article itself, that is the, Anti-Hindu sentiment article, in the India subsection of the Asia section. Please do so. Please also answer the request in the previous section.-2406:7400:90:1E99:CA60:118F:4AE5:4FA0 (talk) 14:58, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93 and RegentsPark: can you please add the above text or answer why it is unacceptable? - 2406:7400:98:1CA3:5434:3134:7A32:C894 (talk) 14:06, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- You have to show reliable sources for supporting your claim that the person was promoting anti-Hindu sentiment. Capitals00 (talk) 11:21, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93 and RegentsPark: can you please add the above text or answer why it is unacceptable? - 2406:7400:98:1CA3:5434:3134:7A32:C894 (talk) 14:06, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Then please add just this to the India subsection of the Asia section, "Speaking at a Sanatana dharma abolition conference, Udhayanidhi Stalin advocated for its "eradication" and said that it is against social justice and equality.[1] - 2406:7400:90:E1AA:B186:9E26:B6BF:FA70 (talk) 18:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Partly done: I added the information from The Hindu as this is a consensus reliable source. The rest cannot be added as explained above. Jamedeus (talk) 01:56, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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- ^ a b Bureau, The Hindu (2023-09-02). "Sanatana is against social justice and has to be eradicated: Udhayanidhi". The Hindu. ISSN 0971-751X. Retrieved 2023-09-02.
- ^ Bureau, Indus Scrolls (6 September 2023). "Malaysia Hindu Sangam condemns Udayanidhi Stalin's hatred against Sanatana Dharma, writes to the High Commission of India requesting Indian Government to act". Indus Scrolls. Ghaziabad, Uttar Pradesh, India: INDUSSCROLLS. p. 1. Retrieved 27 November 2023.
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@Vanamonde93: In this edit summary you seem to be accusing me. However, I want to clarify that I only corrected the link in the edit just before your edit (and the one before that was just to fix a typo). I am not the author of that sentence.-Haani40 (talk) 19:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't name you, did I? The content needs to be supported explicitly by a source. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)