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== Golden-domed mosque == |
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Al-Aqsa is not silver but golden-domed mosque.--[[User:BosnianWikiS|BosnianWikiS]] ([[User talk:BosnianWikiS|talk]]) 13:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC) |
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The rectangular al-Aqsa Mosque and its precincts are 144,000 square meters (1,550,000 sq ft), although the mosque itself is about 35,000 square meters (380,000 sq ft) and could hold up to 5,000 worshipers.[1] It is 83 m (272 ft) long, 56 m (184 ft) wide.[1] Unlike the Dome of the Rock, which reflects classical Byzantine architecture, the Al-Aqsa Mosque is characteristic of early Islamic architecture.[2]
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The rectangular al-Aqsa Mosque and its precincts are 144,000 square meters (1,550,000 sq ft), although the mosque itself is about 4,650 square meters (50,100 sq ft) and could hold up to 5,000 worshipers.[1] It is 83 m (272 ft) long, 56 m (184 ft) wide.[1] Unlike the Dome of the Rock, which reflects classical Byzantine architecture, the Al-Aqsa Mosque is characteristic of early Islamic architecture.[3]
Justification:
As written the area is inconsistent with the dimensions. Other sources, such as from the Turkish government http://www.tika.gov.tr/upload/2016/INGILIZCE%20SITE%20ESERLER/TANITIM%20BRO%C5%9E%C3%9CRLER%C4%B0/PDF/Haram-Ash-sharief-Final-En_2013.pdf page 10) have similar dimensions (e.g. 80x55m). Alpheus100 (talk) 18:54, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
References
- Done. The cited source states 50,000 sqft, so I went with that measurement and converted back to sqm from there. For the record, it looks like this information has been incorrect in the article since it was added almost ten years ago. The original editor who added this information mistakenly read the source as 50,000 square meters, then shortly thereafter did some fractional conversion that left it at 0.035 square kilometers, and eventually changed to 35,000 square meters, where it stayed until today. Thanks for finding this and pointing it out! ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 15:27, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Al-Aqsa vs Al-Qibli Chapel
We should know that Muslims believe that Al-Aqsa consists of The Dome of the Rock and Al-Qibli Chapel, so they are two parts of the same thing, every thing inside the siege is considered as a part of Al-Aqsa; which is around 144,000 square meters. what I want to say is that If anyone try to write about this topic, s/he should keep in mind this difference between the two things; because I have observed that pictures of Al-Qibli Chapel are used to refer to the whole place and Al-Qibli Chapel is used as a redirect to Al-Aqsa, which made the topic to be confused.هارون الرشيد العربي (talk) 17:20, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- @هارون الرشيد العربي: the current arrangement follows the discussion above: #Name_of_article,_and_etymology_&_definitions_sections
- If you have further sources which would help clear this up, please bring them here.
- Onceinawhile (talk) 10:20, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- You can take a look on the Arabic link to this article (which should be the link, المسجد الأقصى), there is a lot of references like[1] , and you can surface the website Islam Story, it is useful. and this pic [File:Al-Aqsa Mosque distance.jpg] on Commons هارون الرشيد العربي (talk) 15:47, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
References
- ^ في رحاب المسجد الأقصى Archived 2017-08-22 at the Wayback Machine
Third holiest site in Islam
We say the mosque (narrow definition) is the "Third holiest site in Islam". We also say that the whole compound is the "Third holiest site in Islam" in the lede of Temple Mount.
So which is it - the compound or the specific mosque building?
I think it's very likely to be the compound as a whole, not just this specific mosque, given Dome_of_the_Rock#Religious_significance.
Onceinawhile (talk) 10:24, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- The "third holiest" is actually a bit dubious (for starters - Sunni Islam, but even within Sunni Islam - there are differing views, however going into this is complicated, though I think we should try to limit this to Sunni) - the body "tend to classify" is more accurate than the present lede "is the". Your thoughts, and questions of whether the entire compound is a mosque or not (a very modern, and very political notion) aside - texts tend to refer to the mosque - e.g. this hadith.Icewhiz (talk) 10:49, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Is: Al-Aqsa equal to: 'Halakha'
Halakha and Al-Aqsa sound very similar. Any comment or info? Thanks. Gesund +
- If you are referring to the Hebrew Halakha - no connection AFAICT (well - with the exception of Jewish influence on Islam, and the small portions of Halakha referring specifically to the temple). They also do not sound similar at all (there is perhaps a morphological similarity in English letters, but pronunciation is completely different). הלכה (Halakha) is derived from "walking" or "path". الْأَقْصَى (Al-Aqsa) is derived from edge or farthest. Icewhiz (talk) 11:57, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Fire in 2019?
Did the Al-Aqsa Mosque burn in April 2019? 173.88.241.33 (talk) 00:31, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Bender235, DePiep, Xezbeth, Dimadick, Onceinawhile, BronHiggs, and ElHef: Yes the Al-Aqsa Mosque did have a fire on April 15th. The article is currently protected from edits so I will ping possible editors and supply some sources.
[1] [2][3] Houdinipeter (talk) 14:04, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ EDT, Tom O'Connor On 4/15/19 at 4:58 PM (2019-04-15). "Jerusalem's Al-Aqsa Mosque burns at the same time as fire engulfs Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris". Newsweek. Retrieved 2019-04-16.
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: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) - ^ Arab, The New. "Al-Aqsa mosque catches fire as Notre-Dame cathedral burns". alaraby. Retrieved 2019-04-16.
- ^ "Fire breaks out near mosque on Temple Mount - OMG - Jerusalem Post". www.jpost.com. Retrieved 2019-04-16.
Name
Hi everyone, for the name of the article, It is wrong. the correct name should be Al-Qibli Mosque or something like that; because Al-Aqsa Mosque is equal to the Temple Mount. ِAlso, it is equal to al-Ḥaram al-Šarīf . In Islam, Al-Aqsa Mosque is consist of the two main mosque in al-Ḥaram al-Šarīf which are The Dome of the Rocket and Al-qibli Mosque and other small الرشيد (talk) 10:36, 7 June 2019 (UTC).parts between them. you can look to the Arabic articles for Temble Mount and what is called here Al-Aqsa Mosque.
- Uh sorry, but the common name for this mosque is al-Aqsa. nableezy - 16:49, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
- The name al-Aqsa can refer to either the whole compound or just the building at the south end. This ambiguity dates from early in the Islamic period and continues today. However, this article is about the building and so the title should reflect the common English name for the building. That is al-Aqsa Mosque by a very large margin. Other names can be mentioned in the text if references are provided. Zerotalk 17:14, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
- SharabSalam Look at this. الرشيد (talk) 00:36, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Okay I suggested this solution. Since Muslims deny any link between al-Aqsa and the Temple mount why do we link the arabic article ar:المسجد الأقصى(al-Aqsa mosque) to the temple mount article? Instead I think the al-Aqsa mosque article in Arabic should be linked to al-Aqsa mosque article in English wikipedia. I didnt find any article about the temple mount in Arabic wikipedia so no need to link it to Arabic Wikipedia
my suggestion
- Remove the link between Temple Mount and ar:المسجد الأقصى
- Remove the link between al-Aqsa Mosque and ar:المصلى القبلي
- Link ar:المسجد الأقصى to al-Aqsa Mosque
The Temple Mount article will have no Arabic article because I couldn't find an article in Arabic wikipedia about it--SharabSalam (talk) 00:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Alright I am gonna go ahead and change the links. There is an obvious mistake here.--SharabSalam (talk) 00:54, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- SharabSalam I am with you, but we should take into account that the content of the article will be about another thing. I think this article should be moved to Al-Qibli Mosque, for the rest I am with you as we remember other versions of wikipidia. الرشيد (talk) 00:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- الرشيد, al-Mussalla al-Qabili is not the same as the al-Aqsa Mosque even if there is some content here in this article is actually about Mussalla al-Qabili not al-Aqsa Mosque we should change it. If we moved the article then we wouldnt have al-Aqsa Mosque article. How about we create an article about al-Mussalla al-Qabili and change some contents in this article? Sorry for the delay in reply I have a very weak network connection.--SharabSalam (talk) 01:05, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- SharabSalam You are right, good job. الرشيد (talk) 01:07, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- BTW I have changed the links but it is still linking to the wrong article in mobile version that is because it is still processing. It will change soon--SharabSalam (talk) 01:11, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- SharabSalam I am with you, but we should take into account that the content of the article will be about another thing. I think this article should be moved to Al-Qibli Mosque, for the rest I am with you as we remember other versions of wikipidia. الرشيد (talk) 00:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Just to clarify to other editors so they dont revert. We have three articles in Arabic Wikipedia: Dome of the Rock(ar:قبة الصخرة), Al-Aqsa Mosque(ar:المسجد الأقصى) and Al-Mussalla al-Qabili(ar:المصلى القبلي)
- each one of these sites are different both the Dome of the Rock and Al-Mussalla al-Qabili are part of the Al-Aqsa mosque. However, Al-Aqsa mosque article in English wikipedia was linked to Al-Mussalla al-Qabili article in Arabic wikipedia. While Temple Mount article in English wikipedia was linked to Al-Aqsa mosque article in English wikipedia. I have fixed that problem. We dont have an article in English Wikipedia about Al-Mussalla Al-Aqbili and we dont have an article about the temple mount in Arabic Wikipedia.
- This image shows the differece between Al-Mussalla al-Qabili, Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa mosque.
- Thats why I also change the photo because it only shows Al-Mussalla al-Qabili--SharabSalam (talk) 01:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- I have to revert. It’s a unilateral change of something that is currently being discussed and has already been discussed years ago. None of what you have proposed changes the fact the consensus of sources describe the subject of this article as the “al-Aqsa Mosque” distinguishing it from the Dome of the Rock and the wider Haram al-Sharif (Temple Mount) that includes both the Mosque and the Dome and all the smaller domes, fountains, edifices, etc. I don’t see the relevance of Arabic Wikipedia frankly. I don’t see anything wrong with mentioning in the article the varying definitions of “al-Aqsa” and that the mosque is also referred to as al-Qibli (if reliably sourced) but nothing beyond that unless the consensus changes (which I highly doubt). —Al Ameer (talk) 03:23, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with Al Ameer and Zero, the common English name for the mosque is Al Aqsa Mosque, meaning the structure discussed in this article. I dont quite know what is going on in the Arabic Wikipedia articles, and to be honest I dont actually care. nableezy - 03:50, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- (ec)I will try searching for sources when I am free. I was going to solve the problem of Al-Haram Al-Sharif later. I wanted to start with the ineffective edits first. Al-Haram Al-Sharif and al-Aqsa Mosque are the same thing. See even in Arabic Wikipedia ar:الحرم القدسي الشريف redirect to ar:المسجد الأقصى. I was going to request after one week that the article of al-Haram Al-Sharif name be changed to al-Aqsa Mosque while this article name be changed to Jama' al-Qalili or Mussalla al-Qalili. That if I found sources that support my proposal.--SharabSalam (talk) 03:59, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Nableezy, I am not saying that the al-Aqsa Mosque isn't the most common name.--SharabSalam (talk) 04:00, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry. There is no article about al-Haram Al-Sharif which is the same thing as al-Aqsa Mosque and the same thing as Temple Mount. Al-Haram Al-Sharif is just an adjective that is used to refer to al-Aqsa Mosque. This article however shows that al-Aqsa Mosque is the Mussalla al-Qalili which I think is wrong. al-Aqsa is the same as the al-Haram Al-Sharif and the Temple Mount.--SharabSalam (talk) 04:10, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- I have to revert. It’s a unilateral change of something that is currently being discussed and has already been discussed years ago. None of what you have proposed changes the fact the consensus of sources describe the subject of this article as the “al-Aqsa Mosque” distinguishing it from the Dome of the Rock and the wider Haram al-Sharif (Temple Mount) that includes both the Mosque and the Dome and all the smaller domes, fountains, edifices, etc. I don’t see the relevance of Arabic Wikipedia frankly. I don’t see anything wrong with mentioning in the article the varying definitions of “al-Aqsa” and that the mosque is also referred to as al-Qibli (if reliably sourced) but nothing beyond that unless the consensus changes (which I highly doubt). —Al Ameer (talk) 03:23, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Golden-domed mosque
Al-Aqsa is not silver but golden-domed mosque.--BosnianWikiS (talk) 13:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)