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:[[User:Malanoqa|Malanoqa]], Why keep editing when certain editors are hostile to the article's existence and keep blanking the page and causing disruption? Do you know, they intend to take away new content from the new articles, which they don't have, and place it on their article? Sorry, but one simply can't abuse editors like that. I've written an entire article for [[Ebola virus epidemic in Guinea|this page]] but I'll not post it until this is sorted. If this article is blanked again and 'merged' that's fair play as we've had an RfC from the wider community. It will eventually become an article on it's own down the line, anyway. These are sovereign countries, not a conglomerate of states known as West Africa. And this [[Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa|main article here]] should be a summary and keep the content that is general to the overall epidemic which would be cumbersome for the individual articles. Also, I don't think there's a language barrier, in any event. Thanks for commenting. Perhaps you'd be interested in contributing to the new articles? They might not blank your contributions. You seem to be in favor with them. [[User:SW3 5DL|SW3 5DL]] ([[User talk:SW3 5DL|talk]]) 11:40, 5 October 2014 (UTC) |
:[[User:Malanoqa|Malanoqa]], Why keep editing when certain editors are hostile to the article's existence and keep blanking the page and causing disruption? Do you know, they intend to take away new content from the new articles, which they don't have, and place it on their article? Sorry, but one simply can't abuse editors like that. I've written an entire article for [[Ebola virus epidemic in Guinea|this page]] but I'll not post it until this is sorted. If this article is blanked again and 'merged' that's fair play as we've had an RfC from the wider community. It will eventually become an article on it's own down the line, anyway. These are sovereign countries, not a conglomerate of states known as West Africa. And this [[Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa|main article here]] should be a summary and keep the content that is general to the overall epidemic which would be cumbersome for the individual articles. Also, I don't think there's a language barrier, in any event. Thanks for commenting. Perhaps you'd be interested in contributing to the new articles? They might not blank your contributions. You seem to be in favor with them. [[User:SW3 5DL|SW3 5DL]] ([[User talk:SW3 5DL|talk]]) 11:40, 5 October 2014 (UTC) |
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::[[User:SW3 5DL|SW3 5DL]] good to hear from you, that you prepare an article for Guinea. I searched today, whether I can find something in french, as this is the official language in Guinea, but I failed. I see you already positively replied to the idea regarding cloning the sections with key facts for the country article [[Talk:2014_Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States#.22Key_facts.22_cloning_available|"Key facts" cloning available]]. Why don´t you do this? I think it is good idea. By the way I can understand your impression regarding hostility, when I read some of the replies to my first postings in the talk section, I was unhappy. But I tend to interprete this as either carelessness or a misunderstanding on my side, not as intention to be unfriendly. I propose you add your new text, either direct in the article or first in this talk section. When you add <code><nowiki>{{reflist-talk}}</nowiki></code> after it, it will displayed in the talk with a correct list of references. People can then give feedback, and moderators know, that there is activity on this page. And you are right, the three are different countries, not just West Africa. I just have to look on the diagram with the country specifc case and death number, how different they are. Guinea steadily slowly growing, Liberia and Sierra Leone growing heavily, but the latter reporting far less deaths. Yes I would like to contribute to the Guinea article, as I have basic knowledge in french I can also scan french sources. With kind regards --[[User:Malanoqa|Malanoqa]] ([[User talk:Malanoqa|talk]]) 12:27, 5 October 2014 (UTC) |
::[[User:SW3 5DL|SW3 5DL]] good to hear from you, that you prepare an article for Guinea. I searched today, whether I can find something in french, as this is the official language in Guinea, but I failed. I see you already positively replied to the idea regarding cloning the sections with key facts for the country article [[Talk:2014_Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States#.22Key_facts.22_cloning_available|"Key facts" cloning available]]. Why don´t you do this? I think it is good idea. By the way I can understand your impression regarding hostility, when I read some of the replies to my first postings in the talk section, I was unhappy. But I tend to interprete this as either carelessness or a misunderstanding on my side, not as intention to be unfriendly. I propose you add your new text, either direct in the article or first in this talk section. When you add <code><nowiki>{{reflist-talk}}</nowiki></code> after it, it will displayed in the talk with a correct list of references. People can then give feedback, and moderators know, that there is activity on this page. And you are right, the three are different countries, not just West Africa. I just have to look on the diagram with the country specifc case and death number, how different they are. Guinea steadily slowly growing, Liberia and Sierra Leone growing heavily, but the latter reporting far less deaths. Yes I would like to contribute to the Guinea article, as I have basic knowledge in french I can also scan french sources. With kind regards --[[User:Malanoqa|Malanoqa]] ([[User talk:Malanoqa|talk]]) 12:27, 5 October 2014 (UTC) |
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:::[[User:Malanoqa|Malanoqa]], That would be tres magnifique if you would edit this article. Yes, we could use someone who can read the French papers and source that content. And you're so right, the epidemic is growing in these countries. I think they are under reporting, like the U.S. There have been many people being admitted to American hospitals for evaluation but it's not really been reported until this first case in Dallas appeared. I'm sure it's out of caution to not cause a panic, etc. Merci beaucoup, Malanoqa! Tres, tres bon. [[User:SW3 5DL|SW3 5DL]] ([[User talk:SW3 5DL|talk]]) |
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Inappropriate page blanking/redirect
There has been no discussion regarding any action to delete/redirect this page. An AfD that was opened to delete 2014 Ebola virus cases in the United States was closed as "Keep." If there are issues with this article here, please discuss on the talk page. Blanking and redirecting the page is disruptive. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 13:31, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Yes there has and it is here [1]. There was never consensus for these splits Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 13:46, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Except for Nigeria, they were not splits and have new content. Your using a re-direct to delete new content. Starstr (talk) 13:54, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- The content can be merged. Just as my redirects were undiscussed, so to were your creations of these inappropriate side articles. We don't need 6 articles to cover what was easily covered in one article just days ago. I figured I'd just be bold, but somehow that is disruptive by your standards 5W3 5DL... - Floydian τ ¢ 15:12, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Except for Nigeria, they were not splits and have new content. Your using a re-direct to delete new content. Starstr (talk) 13:54, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Yes there has and it is here [1]. There was never consensus for these splits Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 13:46, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Possible circulation in humans
I shortened the citation in the Virology section "...She added that it might have circulated in some combination of bats, apes or other forest animals, “or it could have been circulating in humans for 10 years with little or no notice.”..." to
"...She added that it might have circulated in some combination of bats, apes or other forest animals.”..."
That Ebola could have circulated in humans for a long time is a severe statement, that could have a huge impact on the actions during the current epidemic. It might cause constant exclusion of previous Ebola patients, or there friends and relatives. I doubt that Pardis Sabeti, thought of this possibility, when she spoke to the New York Times reporter.
Yeas, it could be, but many things could be. It is one think to speculate in a personal environment. Even News Papers speculate. But to do this in Wikipedia Article at least requires a broad consensus under the editors.
As there where not discussions in the talk page in this article, and as a interview in a news paper is not a reliable source regarding complex topics of virology, I removed this part of the citation.
With kind regards, --Malanoqa (talk) 10:34, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- It's definitely too contentious to attribute to an interview for a newspaper. She probably regrets saying it herself even, but once they had that bit, they would obviously fly with it. - Floydian τ ¢ 13:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
RfC
There is an RfC on whether or not to keep this article, along with the other new ones here. It includes this one and:
- 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Guinea
- 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Liberia
- 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Sierra Leone
- 2014 Ebola virus case in the United States
SW3 5DL (talk) 21:30, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Near to no Guinea specific content
This article was created 29 September and it has still less content then the corresponding chapter in Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa To me it appears, that there are in the moment not enough authors active that look for Guinea, maybe it is because the main language there is french.
Why keep this article?--Malanoqa (talk) 04:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
No new content due to page blanking and reverts and other disruption by others, that's why
- Malanoqa, Why keep editing when certain editors are hostile to the article's existence and keep blanking the page and causing disruption? Do you know, they intend to take away new content from the new articles, which they don't have, and place it on their article? Sorry, but one simply can't abuse editors like that. I've written an entire article for this page but I'll not post it until this is sorted. If this article is blanked again and 'merged' that's fair play as we've had an RfC from the wider community. It will eventually become an article on it's own down the line, anyway. These are sovereign countries, not a conglomerate of states known as West Africa. And this main article here should be a summary and keep the content that is general to the overall epidemic which would be cumbersome for the individual articles. Also, I don't think there's a language barrier, in any event. Thanks for commenting. Perhaps you'd be interested in contributing to the new articles? They might not blank your contributions. You seem to be in favor with them. SW3 5DL (talk) 11:40, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- SW3 5DL good to hear from you, that you prepare an article for Guinea. I searched today, whether I can find something in french, as this is the official language in Guinea, but I failed. I see you already positively replied to the idea regarding cloning the sections with key facts for the country article "Key facts" cloning available. Why don´t you do this? I think it is good idea. By the way I can understand your impression regarding hostility, when I read some of the replies to my first postings in the talk section, I was unhappy. But I tend to interprete this as either carelessness or a misunderstanding on my side, not as intention to be unfriendly. I propose you add your new text, either direct in the article or first in this talk section. When you add
{{reflist-talk}}
after it, it will displayed in the talk with a correct list of references. People can then give feedback, and moderators know, that there is activity on this page. And you are right, the three are different countries, not just West Africa. I just have to look on the diagram with the country specifc case and death number, how different they are. Guinea steadily slowly growing, Liberia and Sierra Leone growing heavily, but the latter reporting far less deaths. Yes I would like to contribute to the Guinea article, as I have basic knowledge in french I can also scan french sources. With kind regards --Malanoqa (talk) 12:27, 5 October 2014 (UTC)- Malanoqa, That would be tres magnifique if you would edit this article. Yes, we could use someone who can read the French papers and source that content. And you're so right, the epidemic is growing in these countries. I think they are under reporting, like the U.S. There have been many people being admitted to American hospitals for evaluation but it's not really been reported until this first case in Dallas appeared. I'm sure it's out of caution to not cause a panic, etc. Merci beaucoup, Malanoqa! Tres, tres bon. SW3 5DL (talk)
- SW3 5DL good to hear from you, that you prepare an article for Guinea. I searched today, whether I can find something in french, as this is the official language in Guinea, but I failed. I see you already positively replied to the idea regarding cloning the sections with key facts for the country article "Key facts" cloning available. Why don´t you do this? I think it is good idea. By the way I can understand your impression regarding hostility, when I read some of the replies to my first postings in the talk section, I was unhappy. But I tend to interprete this as either carelessness or a misunderstanding on my side, not as intention to be unfriendly. I propose you add your new text, either direct in the article or first in this talk section. When you add