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Please provide an explanation for the relevance of the Jodorowsky quote. My position is that it is an ad hominem attack, not a legitimate critique. Cursing and indicating you would like to kill someone isn't miraculously a constructive, useful comment just because you are famous (if anything, the quote reflects more on Jodorowsky than Spielberg, and would make more sense on his page). Having read it, do you have additional knowledge of Spielberg? The fact that high profile film makers have detractors is not exactly news; unless the detractor is pointing out relevant flaws in his film making style, there is no justification for including [[WP:BLP|defamation]]. —[[User:ShadowRangerRIT|ShadowRanger]] <sup>([[User talk:ShadowRangerRIT|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/ShadowRangerRIT|stalk]])</sup> 23:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC) |
Please provide an explanation for the relevance of the Jodorowsky quote. My position is that it is an ad hominem attack, not a legitimate critique. Cursing and indicating you would like to kill someone isn't miraculously a constructive, useful comment just because you are famous (if anything, the quote reflects more on Jodorowsky than Spielberg, and would make more sense on his page). Having read it, do you have additional knowledge of Spielberg? The fact that high profile film makers have detractors is not exactly news; unless the detractor is pointing out relevant flaws in his film making style, there is no justification for including [[WP:BLP|defamation]]. —[[User:ShadowRangerRIT|ShadowRanger]] <sup>([[User talk:ShadowRangerRIT|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/ShadowRangerRIT|stalk]])</sup> 23:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC) |
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The section in question is called "Praise and criticism", and Jodorowsky is free to express his critique in any way he sees fit, whether or not it seems relevant, informative or constructive to you personally. The fact that it is a filmmaker, and he's voicing an opinion on Spielberg, makes the quote relevant without any doubt. What you're trying to do here is pure censorship. You're free to include the quote on the Jodorowsky page if you wish, but as long as I have access to the Internet, it definitely stays on the Spielberg page. |
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Twilight Zone: The Movie - Accident
There's no mention of the legal trouble that he got into with John Landis et al regarding the Twilight Zone: The Movie helicopter accident that killed Vic Morrow and two children. Can we add this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.254.94 (talk) 20:01, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- Long as it's properly sourced to avoid libel. I think it's fine that it's in John Landis' article considering he was on set when it happened. Alientraveller (talk) 20:07, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
you guys obviously have no testes u argue over the stupidest things —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.192.118 (talk) 20:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Early life
This section seems to be riddled with nonsense. I refer to the following sentence: Not moving to Utah and not applying to The University of Utah is often refferred to as a dark period of his life by many reputable historians, including wikipedia, and that is not debatable. He will never not move to Utah again. Can someone plese rectify this? Horracio (talk) 05:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Date of birth
Was he born in 1946 or 1947? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.15.127.254 (talk) 23:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- Why don't you read the article, which says December 18 1946? Alientraveller (talk) 09:27, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
"Highest grossing" Statement needs sourcing, precision and expansion
This quote:
- ...Spielberg is the highest grossing filmmaker of all time; his films having made nearly $8 billion internationally...
I am fairly certain that, indexed for inflation, Lucas's films make him the "highest gross[er]." Certainly, Lucas is the highest grossing independent filmmaker in history since Spielberg usually makes his pictures within the studio system.
What's the source of this figure?
Does it include the grosses only from films he's directed?
Does it include grosses from films he's done with other filmmakers, principally his collaborations with George Lucas? Surely a very large chunk of this purported gross has to come from the Indiana Jones's films, including the one previously (May 2008) played.
Thus the statement needs to be expanded and sourced.
PainMan (talk) 05:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Stole E.T?
Can Somebody add some details about whether he stole E.T from Satyajit Ray or not?Qbadge (talk) 19:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
- No. Read the film's article. Alientraveller (talk) 19:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
simplement une suggestion :
James Camroon pour les effets sous l'eau ou l'équipe Coustaud avec plus de spécimen possible avec les requins.
Ainsi que Sarah Brightman pour la voie de la chanson thème ainsi que Josh Groban (multi-langue). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.82.138.240 (talk) 05:03, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
simplement une suggestion :
Pour les films de Tintin.
James Camroon pour les effets sous l'eau ou l'équipe Coustaud avec plus de spécimen possibles avec les requins.
Ainsi que Sarah Brightman pour la voie de la chanson thème ainsi que Josh Groban (multi-langue). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.82.138.240 (talk) 05:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
spilled the beans
What does this mean?
- Spielberg spilled no beans in his attempt to build his career.
The only meaning I know for "spill the beans" is "reveal secrets". Does it really mean that he revealed no secrets while building his career? If so, why is such a thing worth mentioning? Can it be substantiated? —JerryFriedman (Talk) 04:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
A new template
I've been sandboxing an additional template for things he didn't direct:
Thoughts? I actually wonder myself how excessive this is, as many of these films/shows have templates of their own, yet a few do not. For every project Spielberg passionately involved himself in, there are many others he just wanted to see happen, which is the nature of producing films really (producers can either be second-in-command to the director or do nothing at all). Alientraveller (talk) 17:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Congratulation's. Go right ahead! —Wildroot (talk) 01:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I think it's a very well-structured template. --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 23:51, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Commas and some reorganization
I feel that the sentence: "There are of course exceptions" under the Themes sub-section should be replaced with: "There are, of course, exceptions". I also think that the Themes, Upcoming Projects and Contemporaries sub-sections should be their own sections as they apply to all his movies, not just the ones after 1997. I would edit it myself but the page is semi-protected. 24.18.240.159 (talk) 19:41, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Spielberg was stalked by Diana Napolis, which was created yesterday and is currently an orphan. Is it worth being added? Spielberg was also stalked by another person according to one of my references but I doubt that it's worth a mention. WLU (t) (c) (rules - simple rules) 15:39, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I would like wikipedia editors to change the allegation that I "stalked" Steven Speilberg. Mr. Speilberg obtained a restraining order against me so that I would not confront him at a public event. I was never arrested, charged, or convicted for "stalking" Steven Spielberg. Please correct this. Diana Napolis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.6.142.70 (talk) 18:40, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Catch Me If You Can's 'Unique' Title Sequence
It's not entirely "unique" - its great, but doesn't it reference vintage title sequences from 1950s and 60s Hollywood? Icanseeformilesandmiles (talk) 02:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Was raiders really the highest-grossing film made at the time
Dear All: I never heard that Raiders of the Lost Ark was the highest-grossing film made at the time. As a kid I remember being upset when ET out gross Star Wars. I do not see anything on the Raiders of the Lost Ark page but simply the claim it was ‘the top grossing film of 1981’ not all time. If you look at the data from IMDB (true releases will have affect this data) there is reason to believe it was never more than fifth (worldwide) or fourth (North America).
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) $383,900,000 - $242,374,454 Gone with the Wind (1939) $390,500,000 - $198,655,278 Jaws (1975) $470,600,000 - $260,000,000 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) $533,800,000 - $290,158,751 Star Wars (1977) $797,900,000 - $460,935,665
Unless someone can give a reference I suggest raiders is removed. Jniech (talk) 10:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Shooting star trademark
Does anyone else think that Spielberg's trademark of including a shooting star in his films might be worth a mention? It turns up in most of his films as far as I can tell, but I'm not sure where we'd get a source. --PenguinCopter (talk) 09:53, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Amazing Stories
The series which Spielberg created, produced, and twice directed episodes in is not mentioned. It was called "Steven Spielberg's Amazing Stories" for a while if I recall, so I think it should at least be mentioned in passing here: [1] Trevor GH5 (talk) 17:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Steven Spielberg - an "american" film maker?
I'm sorry, but Spielberg is jewish...This article should be modified...I edited and changed american to jewish but now it's back to american...Why the need to disinform the people? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.117.20.3 (talk) 19:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- There is no disinformation - Spielberg was born in Ohio, therefore he's American. The informtion about him being Jewish is already in the article in another section. Your removal of American in the lead sentence was inappropriate, which is why it was reverted. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 20:01, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
born in America makes u an American, it's pretty racist to call anyone else by a social or cultural group "it's as if someone is less American or less wherever you're from" Markthemac (talk) 15:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Jodorowsky quote
Please provide an explanation for the relevance of the Jodorowsky quote. My position is that it is an ad hominem attack, not a legitimate critique. Cursing and indicating you would like to kill someone isn't miraculously a constructive, useful comment just because you are famous (if anything, the quote reflects more on Jodorowsky than Spielberg, and would make more sense on his page). Having read it, do you have additional knowledge of Spielberg? The fact that high profile film makers have detractors is not exactly news; unless the detractor is pointing out relevant flaws in his film making style, there is no justification for including defamation. —ShadowRanger (talk|stalk) 23:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
The section in question is called "Praise and criticism", and Jodorowsky is free to express his critique in any way he sees fit, whether or not it seems relevant, informative or constructive to you personally. The fact that it is a filmmaker, and he's voicing an opinion on Spielberg, makes the quote relevant without any doubt. What you're trying to do here is pure censorship. You're free to include the quote on the Jodorowsky page if you wish, but as long as I have access to the Internet, it definitely stays on the Spielberg page.
MeatTycoon (talk) 22:57, 16 December 2009 (UTC)MeatTycoon, on the 17th of December, a dark and cold winter night.