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I would like to see editors' ideas on how we should handle the film producer confusion. Peter Safran has been a producer since the beginning, but an article at some point named a David Witz as his co-producer. There seems to be confusion surrounding the word 'co'...it is simply added when there are more than one on the production sectional team. It is entirely different from an executive producer (who is under the producers). Later on, when WB announced the restructuring of the DCEU - it was stated that Johns would remain producer on all upcoming projects. It was then announced that Walter Hamada will be a co-producer with Johns as both are co-runners of the film franchise, and co-CEOs of [[DC Films]]. Together they will oversee the production of all new DC movies, and as such are also co-producers. This was further established when Johns publicly welcomed Hamada onto the production team stating that working with him on ''Shazam'' has thus far been collaborative. All of the above simply states that all four are producers - and were each announced/declared/reported by reliable sources. Despite this there is a particular editor who continually reverts edits on this page, and its related [[DC Extended Universe]] page to their personal opinion/interpretation of what a 'co-producer' is. Without coming to this talk page first, they are in violation of all Wikipedia policies. Likewise, any editor who continues to revert edits with reliable sources is also approaching deconstruction behavior. The new issue seems to be that the business memo released by New Line Cinema today excludes the co-producers in their announcement. The discussion needs to be - does a memo all of a sudden delete previously confirmed producers of the film? Or does it simply mean that the studios decided to condense information and not reveal ''everything'' about the movie (i.e.: see Superman's appearance in the film). --[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead|talk]]) 04:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC) |
I would like to see editors' ideas on how we should handle the film producer confusion. Peter Safran has been a producer since the beginning, but an article at some point named a David Witz as his co-producer. There seems to be confusion surrounding the word 'co'...it is simply added when there are more than one on the production sectional team. It is entirely different from an executive producer (who is under the producers). Later on, when WB announced the restructuring of the DCEU - it was stated that Johns would remain producer on all upcoming projects. It was then announced that Walter Hamada will be a co-producer with Johns as both are co-runners of the film franchise, and co-CEOs of [[DC Films]]. Together they will oversee the production of all new DC movies, and as such are also co-producers. This was further established when Johns publicly welcomed Hamada onto the production team stating that working with him on ''Shazam'' has thus far been collaborative. All of the above simply states that all four are producers - and were each announced/declared/reported by reliable sources. Despite this there is a particular editor who continually reverts edits on this page, and its related [[DC Extended Universe]] page to their personal opinion/interpretation of what a 'co-producer' is. Without coming to this talk page first, they are in violation of all Wikipedia policies. Likewise, any editor who continues to revert edits with reliable sources is also approaching deconstruction behavior. The new issue seems to be that the business memo released by New Line Cinema today excludes the co-producers in their announcement. The discussion needs to be - does a memo all of a sudden delete previously confirmed producers of the film? Or does it simply mean that the studios decided to condense information and not reveal ''everything'' about the movie (i.e.: see Superman's appearance in the film). --[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead|talk]]) 04:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC) |
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:: I for one second this argument. Just because a business memo didn't include ALL the information, doesn't mean that all previous information is now void. Not at all the case. The page needs to reflect other previously released/confirmed credits. As for Superman - we can wait until the movie releases if the editors really wanna wait that long.--[[Special:Contributions/206.81.136.61|206.81.136.61]] ([[User talk:206.81.136.61|talk]]) 23:24, 6 February 2018 (UTC) |
:: I for one second this argument. Just because a business memo didn't include ALL the information, doesn't mean that all previous information is now void. Not at all the case. The page needs to reflect other previously released/confirmed credits. As for Superman - we can wait until the movie releases if the editors really wanna wait that long.--[[Special:Contributions/206.81.136.61|206.81.136.61]] ([[User talk:206.81.136.61|talk]]) 23:24, 6 February 2018 (UTC) |
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:::I start a discussion and only one person replies? Where did all my disputing editors go? Should there be no disagreements brought about, the page will resume film credits as it had before - including all creative production members up until a reliable source declares that Hamada, and Johns aren't producers.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead|talk]]) 02:53, 9 February 2018 (UTC) |
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Buenos días Ludwigmartina (talk) 17:03, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- ^What is this?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Protection request
This page continues to be edited and reverted by users who persist in edit warring. I am requesting this so that the edits will discontinue. The film is currently filming and as such has the ability to change as it is being made. However there are editors who delete verified, and reliable information simply based on a press memo, or their differing opinions. The producers have already be confirmed and name by various sources, and yet the memo released today seems to cause confusion. In addition a confirmation from different sources states that Henry Cavill is in the film. Because of the disunity on these topics, it needs to be discussed here first before these edits continue to conflict and create a mess. Hopefully a consensus can be reached while the page is protected.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Not done @DisneyMetalhead: see WP:RFPP for protection requests. — xaosflux Talk 04:32, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help, User:Xaosflux - I have now submitted the request on the link you provided.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:42, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Producer(s) discussion
I would like to see editors' ideas on how we should handle the film producer confusion. Peter Safran has been a producer since the beginning, but an article at some point named a David Witz as his co-producer. There seems to be confusion surrounding the word 'co'...it is simply added when there are more than one on the production sectional team. It is entirely different from an executive producer (who is under the producers). Later on, when WB announced the restructuring of the DCEU - it was stated that Johns would remain producer on all upcoming projects. It was then announced that Walter Hamada will be a co-producer with Johns as both are co-runners of the film franchise, and co-CEOs of DC Films. Together they will oversee the production of all new DC movies, and as such are also co-producers. This was further established when Johns publicly welcomed Hamada onto the production team stating that working with him on Shazam has thus far been collaborative. All of the above simply states that all four are producers - and were each announced/declared/reported by reliable sources. Despite this there is a particular editor who continually reverts edits on this page, and its related DC Extended Universe page to their personal opinion/interpretation of what a 'co-producer' is. Without coming to this talk page first, they are in violation of all Wikipedia policies. Likewise, any editor who continues to revert edits with reliable sources is also approaching deconstruction behavior. The new issue seems to be that the business memo released by New Line Cinema today excludes the co-producers in their announcement. The discussion needs to be - does a memo all of a sudden delete previously confirmed producers of the film? Or does it simply mean that the studios decided to condense information and not reveal everything about the movie (i.e.: see Superman's appearance in the film). --DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- I for one second this argument. Just because a business memo didn't include ALL the information, doesn't mean that all previous information is now void. Not at all the case. The page needs to reflect other previously released/confirmed credits. As for Superman - we can wait until the movie releases if the editors really wanna wait that long.--206.81.136.61 (talk) 23:24, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- I start a discussion and only one person replies? Where did all my disputing editors go? Should there be no disagreements brought about, the page will resume film credits as it had before - including all creative production members up until a reliable source declares that Hamada, and Johns aren't producers.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:53, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
- I for one second this argument. Just because a business memo didn't include ALL the information, doesn't mean that all previous information is now void. Not at all the case. The page needs to reflect other previously released/confirmed credits. As for Superman - we can wait until the movie releases if the editors really wanna wait that long.--206.81.136.61 (talk) 23:24, 6 February 2018 (UTC)