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See in the article's this article does not deal with utar pardesh, rajasthan, madha pardesh, so remove these states from this article in terms of reservations. |
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Kindly change the hatnote summary |
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This article is about the Saini (Mali) community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh and Delhi. For the Mali community who were not recorded as Saini prior to 1937, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali. |
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This article is about the Saini community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh and Delhi. For the Mali community who were not recorded as Saini prior to 1937, see Rajput Mali. |
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Because only rajput mali added in 1941 census not all other malis from all over india. Above hatnot shows saini was originally malies,Someone from other caste had tried to show saini orign with mali to lower down punjabi saini status. Request you authority please publish accurate information dont make false use of your authority .{{ping|Ymblanter}}<ref> |
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Gahlot, Sukhvir Singh; Dhar, Banshi (1989). Castes and Tribes of Rajasthan. Jain Brothers. p. 108. ISBN 9788185287003. In the Punjab in the sub-mountainous region the community came to be known as 'Saini'. It maintained its Rajput character despite migration. In other parts, it came to be called by the name of "Kshatriya-Mali" (Rajput Mali)</ref> |
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The Punjab Alienation of Land Act of 1900 AD, XIII of 1907, pp 22-29, Sir Shadi Lal, Printed At The "Addison" Press, Lahore, 1907 |
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Is this not valid proof? Dear Mods, Please take action on this , we request you!
The census of 1881 as shown on page 292 and 232 of the book linked below 'The Cyclopaedia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia, Commercial, Industrial and Scientific by Edward Balfour, Jan 1885' ascertains that Sainis and Malis have always been documented as entirely separate tribes in census. Same with page 232.
https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=yvNWAAAAMAAJ&hl=en&pg=GBS.PA294
To all mods, how come this link is not reliable?
Why is it being ignored, please understand this is a sensitive topic for Saini community and we are being mistaken for other group which lives in different part of India.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Deviprasad1366 (talk • contribs) 12:20, September 12, 2020 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. Raj-era British sources on castes, ethnic groups, tribes, etc. in the subcontinent are generally not accepted as reliable sources for claims about those subjects. The general consensus of editors experienced with those sources is that the Raj authorities that were the main source of this information were not concerned with accuracy but with furthering colonial administration. If you wish to inquire further, you may find the Wikiproject India a good source of information. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:56, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
ok then, how to establish consensus? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deviprasad1366 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
What is your source of truth that sainis are Malis ? Nothing , just making wrong use of your authority . You should also do a bit of research before publishing anything Xxyyystart (talk) 19:57, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Saini and mali are different caste
Saini and mali are different caste. No Mali in punjab region. Please take action Sainisardar (talk) 15:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Removal of word mali.
There is no evidence that Sainis of Punjab are Malis , There are certainly proofs of sainis being warriors and belonging to Kashatriya Clan , Given the status sainis hold currently in punjab and Himachal. And its clearly evident that Malis started using saini name post 1937 to get into british army . This information is misleading and Mali should be removed with immediate effect . Xxyyystart (talk) 19:53, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 November 2020
This page states Saini is OBC in Punjab yet the reference does not say so. Please do not include incorrect information. I want to edit this part: "The Saini community is given representation in government jobs and educational institutes under Other Backward Class (OBC)[2] category in states of Uttar Pradesh[3], Punjab[4], Haryana[5], Rajasthan[6][7] and Madhya Pradesh[8]". Reference number 4 states it was a proposal. Does not say it was approved.
Please change this statement. Sweetu101 (talk) 03:30, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: Added cite to show that the proposed decision has been implemented and the Punjab government has listed Saini under OBC regulations. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 05:31, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 December 2020
In the hatnote summary of saini caste this article is about Saini community of Punjab haryana,himachial pardesh, jk, Chandigarh, delhi on other side in the article you have mentioned obc representation in Up, MP Rajshthan(The Saini community is given representation in government jobs and educational institutes under Other Backward Class (OBC)[2] category in states of Uttar Pradesh[3], Punjab[4][5], Haryana[6], Rajasthan[7][8] and Madhya Pradesh.) Saini caste does not exist in up, mp, rajasthan these are the malis who started using saini in 1937 after rajput mali described in mali caste articles , also remove mali in hatnote summary someone wrongly published mali word saini is martial caste declared in 1857 while mali is not martial caste in this article we can simply mention rajput mali started using saini surname in 1937 all saini are not malies See in the article's this article does not deal with utar pardesh, rajasthan, madha pardesh, so remove these states from this article in terms of reservations.
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:38, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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Kindly change the hatnote summary
This article is about the Saini (Mali) community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh and Delhi. For the Mali community who were not recorded as Saini prior to 1937, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali.
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This article is about the Saini community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh and Delhi. For the Mali community who were not recorded as Saini prior to 1937, see Rajput Mali.
Because only rajput mali added in 1941 census not all other malis from all over india. Above hatnot shows saini was originally malies,Someone from other caste had tried to show saini orign with mali to lower down punjabi saini status. Request you authority please publish accurate information dont make false use of your authority .@Ymblanter:[1] The Punjab Alienation of Land Act of 1900 AD, XIII of 1907, pp 22-29, Sir Shadi Lal, Printed At The "Addison" Press, Lahore, 1907
- ^ Gahlot, Sukhvir Singh; Dhar, Banshi (1989). Castes and Tribes of Rajasthan. Jain Brothers. p. 108. ISBN 9788185287003. In the Punjab in the sub-mountainous region the community came to be known as 'Saini'. It maintained its Rajput character despite migration. In other parts, it came to be called by the name of "Kshatriya-Mali" (Rajput Mali)