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*'''Support'''. Obvious. -- [[User:Matthead|Matthead]] [[User_talk:Matthead|<sup>discuß!</sup>]] [[EU|<font style="color:#ffff00;background:#0000cc;"> O </font>]] 15:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC) |
*'''Support'''. Obvious. -- [[User:Matthead|Matthead]] [[User_talk:Matthead|<sup>discuß!</sup>]] [[EU|<font style="color:#ffff00;background:#0000cc;"> O </font>]] 15:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose'''. Obviously, "[[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)]]" does not apply here. Last time I checked the English form of Dutch Johan, was John, not Johann. (a German variant) this man was a Dutchman, many sources indicate he was born there before he and his parents moved to Bonn. In later life he often visited the Netherlands, for example [[Kermis|Dutch fairs]]. The fact that he has (Dutch) family relations in the Netherlands going back to the 1500s seals the deal.[[User:Rex Germanus|Rex]] 16:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose'''. Obviously, "[[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)]]" does not apply here. Last time I checked the English form of Dutch Johan, was John, not Johann. (a German variant) this man was a Dutchman, many sources indicate he was born there before he and his parents moved to Bonn. In later life he often visited the Netherlands, for example [[Kermis|Dutch fairs]]. The fact that he has (Dutch) family relations in the Netherlands going back to the 1500s seals the deal.[[User:Rex Germanus|Rex]] 16:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' [[WP:COMMONNAME]] looking at the multitude of references for "Johann" and the lack of references for "Johan" and the fact that even the Dutch wiki lists him has Johann (instead of Johan). [[User:84.145.195.64|84.145.195.64]] 16:15, 29 September 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' as nominator. [[User:Sciurinæ|Sciurinæ]] 16:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC) |
*'''Support''' as nominator. [[User:Sciurinæ|Sciurinæ]] 16:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC) |
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Name
"Johan van Beethoven" triggers only one hit in Google scholar and that one isn't in English. It triggers three hits in Google books, two are in French and the other isn't in English, either. "Johann van Beethoven", by contrast, has 39 hits in Google scholar, thirty being in English. It also triggers 300 hits in Google books, many or most of which are in English. I could not find any other names. Sciurinæ 17:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Requested move
Johan van Beethoven → Johann van Beethoven — Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) —Sciurinæ 17:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Survey
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- Support. Obvious. -- Matthead discuß! O 15:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose. Obviously, "Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)" does not apply here. Last time I checked the English form of Dutch Johan, was John, not Johann. (a German variant) this man was a Dutchman, many sources indicate he was born there before he and his parents moved to Bonn. In later life he often visited the Netherlands, for example Dutch fairs. The fact that he has (Dutch) family relations in the Netherlands going back to the 1500s seals the deal.Rex 16:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Support as nominator. Sciurinæ 16:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Discussion
- Any additional comments:
Reverted twice [1] [2] the moves [3] of Rex Germanus (talk · contribs) and added sources for his ancestry. -- Matthead discuß! O 15:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)