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:::"(priest)" as suggested below would work, but I still see no need whatsoever for this move: the academic is near universally known as "David S. Painter", not "David Painter", and is not particularly notable, as noted by DuncanHill. Leave things as they are. [[User:Jonathan A Jones|Jonathan A Jones]] ([[User talk:Jonathan A Jones|talk]]) 18:23, 18 January 2017 (UTC) |
:::"(priest)" as suggested below would work, but I still see no need whatsoever for this move: the academic is near universally known as "David S. Painter", not "David Painter", and is not particularly notable, as noted by DuncanHill. Leave things as they are. [[User:Jonathan A Jones|Jonathan A Jones]] ([[User talk:Jonathan A Jones|talk]]) 18:23, 18 January 2017 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''', not a bishop and also not convinced of the primacy of the American of whom I've never heard, but who appears to always have a middle initial. FWIW, the top Google result for "David Painter" (with the quotation marks) is the very famous French artist David (''The Death of Marat''), known for some reason on Wikipedia as [[Jacques-Louis David]]. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 03:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose''', not a bishop and also not convinced of the primacy of the American of whom I've never heard, but who appears to always have a middle initial. FWIW, the top Google result for "David Painter" (with the quotation marks) is the very famous French artist David (''The Death of Marat''), known for some reason on Wikipedia as [[Jacques-Louis David]]. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 03:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC) |
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::I am not certain how the words, "known for some reason on Wikipedia as [[Jacques-Louis David]]", are meant to be understood. The entry appears in 63 Wikipedias, all of which, including his native [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Louis_David French Wikipedia] list him by this exact name, [[Jacques-Louis David]].[[User:Roman Spinner| —Roman Spinner]] <small>[[User talk:Roman Spinner|(talk)(contribs)]]</small> 21:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment'''. A glance at [[:Category:Archdeacons of Oakham]], demonstrates that while those who held the title of bishop {[[Lord Alwyne Compton (bishop)]], [[Norman Lang (bishop)]], [[Frank Partridge (bishop)]]} are disambiguated with that qualifier, those who did not {[[Edward Moore (priest, born 1844)]], [[Gordon Steele (priest)]]} are designated with the all-inclusive qualifier "(priest)". Thus, if "(bishop)" is not applicable, "(priest)" should certainly be.[[User:Roman Spinner| —Roman Spinner]] <small>[[User talk:Roman Spinner|(talk)(contribs)]]</small> 15:33, 18 January 2017 (UTC) |
*'''Comment'''. A glance at [[:Category:Archdeacons of Oakham]], demonstrates that while those who held the title of bishop {[[Lord Alwyne Compton (bishop)]], [[Norman Lang (bishop)]], [[Frank Partridge (bishop)]]} are disambiguated with that qualifier, those who did not {[[Edward Moore (priest, born 1844)]], [[Gordon Steele (priest)]]} are designated with the all-inclusive qualifier "(priest)". Thus, if "(bishop)" is not applicable, "(priest)" should certainly be.[[User:Roman Spinner| —Roman Spinner]] <small>[[User talk:Roman Spinner|(talk)(contribs)]]</small> 15:33, 18 January 2017 (UTC) |
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*'''Additional comment'''. As this nomination currently stands, the academic is actually immaterial to the discussion. The point of the nomination is that the [[David Painter (disambiguation)]] page has no [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] and that [[David Painter (priest)]], [[David S. Painter]] and all others should be listed on the David Painter dab page without any indication of primacy.[[User:Roman Spinner| —Roman Spinner]] <small>[[User talk:Roman Spinner|(talk)(contribs)]]</small> 21:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC) |
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Requested move 16 January 2017
– Not more primary than David S. Painter, an academic. If stats are necessary, the numbers say that the academic is more known than the religious personality. About disambiguating the figure, I am using WP:BISHOP to use "(bishop)". However, if the proposal for that religious person is not suitable, I can allow alternatives. This proposal makes the dabpage take over the base name. However, if the dabpage is not necessary, then make David S. Painter take over the base name instead and modify a hatnote showing David Panter and David Paynter (disambiguation). George Ho (talk) 21:14, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 10:25, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose as the proposal is confused (David Painter does not appear to be a bishop) and not obviously necessary. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:31, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- How about David Painter (curate), Jonathan A Jones? I'll clarify or simplify the proposal for you: either make the dabpage or the academic the primary topic. If the latter, what about the dabpage? George Ho (talk) 03:10, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- He's not a curate either. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 08:03, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- "(priest)" as suggested below would work, but I still see no need whatsoever for this move: the academic is near universally known as "David S. Painter", not "David Painter", and is not particularly notable, as noted by DuncanHill. Leave things as they are. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 18:23, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- How about David Painter (curate), Jonathan A Jones? I'll clarify or simplify the proposal for you: either make the dabpage or the academic the primary topic. If the latter, what about the dabpage? George Ho (talk) 03:10, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose, not a bishop and also not convinced of the primacy of the American of whom I've never heard, but who appears to always have a middle initial. FWIW, the top Google result for "David Painter" (with the quotation marks) is the very famous French artist David (The Death of Marat), known for some reason on Wikipedia as Jacques-Louis David. DuncanHill (talk) 03:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- I am not certain how the words, "known for some reason on Wikipedia as Jacques-Louis David", are meant to be understood. The entry appears in 63 Wikipedias, all of which, including his native French Wikipedia list him by this exact name, Jacques-Louis David. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- Comment. A glance at Category:Archdeacons of Oakham, demonstrates that while those who held the title of bishop {Lord Alwyne Compton (bishop), Norman Lang (bishop), Frank Partridge (bishop)} are disambiguated with that qualifier, those who did not {Edward Moore (priest, born 1844), Gordon Steele (priest)} are designated with the all-inclusive qualifier "(priest)". Thus, if "(bishop)" is not applicable, "(priest)" should certainly be. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 15:33, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- Additional comment. As this nomination currently stands, the academic is actually immaterial to the discussion. The point of the nomination is that the David Painter (disambiguation) page has no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and that David Painter (priest), David S. Painter and all others should be listed on the David Painter dab page without any indication of primacy. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC)