AllardsGap (talk | contribs) |
|||
Line 15: | Line 15: | ||
:Your links to German articles were removed because you simply listed articles on the talk page without any explanation. If you wish to have articles translated, I suggest seeing [[WP:RFT|Requests for Translation]]. But again, be aware that this article, [[Automobile Club de l'Ouest]], is about the club, it is not a biography of the history of three men. [[User:The359|<font color="#004400">The<sup>3</sup>5<sub>9</sub></font>]] ([[User talk:The359|<font color="#004400"><b>Talk</b></font>]]) 04:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC) |
:Your links to German articles were removed because you simply listed articles on the talk page without any explanation. If you wish to have articles translated, I suggest seeing [[WP:RFT|Requests for Translation]]. But again, be aware that this article, [[Automobile Club de l'Ouest]], is about the club, it is not a biography of the history of three men. [[User:The359|<font color="#004400">The<sup>3</sup>5<sub>9</sub></font>]] ([[User talk:The359|<font color="#004400"><b>Talk</b></font>]]) 04:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC) |
||
I don't need a lecture from a rules freak. You deny good faith to others and drive people away. You could have added useful material to the German thread but you chose not to. There never will be articles on these three men if they don't germinate somewhere. I have made hundreds of useful contributions to Wikipedia as can be seen in My Contributions. As indicated on my talk page I am migrating away from Wikipedia to: http://rupert-lloyd-thomas.wikispaces.com/ |
|||
Here I don't have to put up with idiots like you. --[[User:Rupertlt|Rupertlt]] ([[User talk:Rupertlt|talk]]) 09:33, 26 April 2011 (UTC) |
|||
== German == |
== German == |
Revision as of 09:33, 26 April 2011
Sports Car Racing Unassessed | |||||||
|
Controversy
The ACO was badly affected by WW2 (no racing events at Le Mans for a decade) and were organisers of Le Mans 1955. Pretending these events did not happen, or were unconnected, does no service to history. --Rupertlt (talk) 11:29, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- How is the ACO being affected by WWII a controversy? It's a fairly well known fact that France as a whole was affected after WWII, and the effect on Le Mans itself is covered at 24 Hours of Le Mans. How is any of this being removed or how is anyone pretending that this never happened?
- The ACO organised every Le Mans. The fact that the organised one particular Le Mans where an accident happened does not particularly mean this article needs two links to related articles, but ones that have no direct correlation. Besides organising the race, there is very little the ACO did about 1955 other than some regulation changes (covered in relevant articles), as most of the major reactions in motorsport were made by FISA and other national sporting bodies. Removal of these links is not at all pretending such events did not happen, they are openly discussed in relevant articles, they were removed because they are not directly relevant to the ACO itself. A see also section would be for links to similar articles, such as the Fédération Française du Sport Automobile or Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile. The359 (Talk) 18:07, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
The fact that it is covered elsewhere does not mean it cannot be referenced here - in WW2 the ACO HQ and circuit infrastructure was destroyed. The ACO also organised the race where the most serious accident in the history of motor racing took place - you might think these facts would rate a mention in any history of the club. You are obviously keen to suppress them. The ACO honoured two resistants after WW2 - I pointed to an article re a third. Why remove the reference to the French article on Charles Faroux? Why remove from talk the German references which can be translated? Is this being constructive? --Rupertlt (talk) 19:42, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- That is, to put it plainly, absurd. Please become acquianted with Wikipedia's Assume Good Faith policy.
- Your information about the ACO during the World Wars has not only not been touched, none of it has been removed. A redundant link to something already linked to in the article is all that has been altered. And no, I do not think that the 1955 Le Mans disaster is inherently needing to be discussed in an article on the organisation that ran the event. Their part as organisation played little to no part in the cause or effect of the disaster. The removal of links to 1955 Le Mans disaster and 1955 24 Hours of Le Mans has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not such events happened. Something not being mentioned in the article is in no way "suppression" of facts, it is simply addressing relevant issues to the article and what the article should discuss. This would be similar to a claim that Wikipedia is suppressing something merely because it does not have an article on that thing. Please re-read my explanation for the removal of these links from your See Also section. This has to do with Wikipedia's method of style, and nothing to do with the content of the links.
- The link to the French Wikipedia was removed because this article is not a biography, it is about the organisation. The biography of Faroux, especially in a foreign language Wikipedia, does not belong in a See Also section.
- Your links to German articles were removed because you simply listed articles on the talk page without any explanation. If you wish to have articles translated, I suggest seeing Requests for Translation. But again, be aware that this article, Automobile Club de l'Ouest, is about the club, it is not a biography of the history of three men. The359 (Talk) 04:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
I don't need a lecture from a rules freak. You deny good faith to others and drive people away. You could have added useful material to the German thread but you chose not to. There never will be articles on these three men if they don't germinate somewhere. I have made hundreds of useful contributions to Wikipedia as can be seen in My Contributions. As indicated on my talk page I am migrating away from Wikipedia to: http://rupert-lloyd-thomas.wikispaces.com/ Here I don't have to put up with idiots like you. --Rupertlt (talk) 09:33, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
German
Contributors are encouraged to translate pages - they will need suitable references of course. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Coquille http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Durand http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Faroux --Rupertlt (talk) 20:20, 25 April 2011 (UTC)