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:::That's great, since they're '''''your''''' words, you can use them verbatim again! I would have done that, since they were just fine as is, but wanted to avoid copyvio. Excellent. [[User:Ed Fitzgerald|'''Ed Fitzgerald''' (unfutz)]] <b><small><sup>([[User talk:Ed Fitzgerald|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Ed Fitzgerald|cont]])</sup></small></b> 01:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC) |
:::That's great, since they're '''''your''''' words, you can use them verbatim again! I would have done that, since they were just fine as is, but wanted to avoid copyvio. Excellent. [[User:Ed Fitzgerald|'''Ed Fitzgerald''' (unfutz)]] <b><small><sup>([[User talk:Ed Fitzgerald|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Ed Fitzgerald|cont]])</sup></small></b> 01:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Ed Fitzgerald, you claim bolding names in the cast notes is "a fairly standard technique which is '''widely used''' in that way." Fine, then you'll have no problem pointing out some examples. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 05:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC) |
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DVD
Does anyone know if and when this film is slated for release on DVD? It's a classic and one of Niven's finest perfomances. -- Jason Palpatine 01:53, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
- Check the "Coming soon on DVD" on my page of all Powell & Pressburger films on DVD or tape. We've been hearing rumours about a Region 1 DVD release of AMOLAD since April 2003. Still no definite word on it though. It is available on Region 2 DVD (PAL format) if you can play those. SteveCrook 07:38, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
This is already out on DVD although may have been deleted. Look at the picture on the article page to see what it looks like. It has been available to hire from my local library for at least two years. Maybe a search of ebay will turn one up. 172.206.245.48 12:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- That's the cover of the Region 2 DVD mentioned above. It's still eagerly awaited on a Region 1 DVD for the Americans that can't play Region 2 DVDs -- SteveCrook 02:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
June
I'm not sure, but I think June can be called during the trial because she fell asleep in the "real" world. Can somebody verify this? Clarityfiend 07:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Conductor 71 put her to sleep to make her available for the trial - SteveCrook 22:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC) Powell and Pressburger Appreciation Society
- Thanks. I wanted to add that to the plot. Clarityfiend 03:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Last line of the plot
Old: "Love, it seems, does conquer all, even Heaven."
New: "Nothing in the universe is more powerful than the law; but on Earth, nothing is more powerful than love."
I prefer my old, shorter ending, even though the new version sounds like what the judge says (if memory serves). Shall we put it to a vote? Clarityfiend 08:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- That's actually Doc Reeves (Roger Livesey) that says that line (or something very like it). The Judge then quotes old Sir Walter Raleigh "Love rules the court, the camp, the grove / And men below and heaven above / For love is Heaven and Heaven is love" - that quotation is on Emeric Pressburger's grave. It was his favourite film.
- Sir Walter Scott, you barbarian!
- Nuttyskin 14:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- I knew it was some Wally :) -- SteveCrook 15:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- Given the choice I prefer the shorter version as well. The actual quote is even longer than the longer one above and is a bit clumsy out of context. -- SteveCrook 16:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Restored old ending, barring any more votes. Clarityfiend 01:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Cause of the head injury
I removed the "cused by fall from plane" line, before finding a reference [1] which reminds us that:
- Diagnosis proposed by physician in the film: "chronic adhesive arachnoiditis (from concussion two years earlier) affecting the olfactory nerve." Dr Reeves says he saw this condition at the l'Hopital de la Pitie in Paris. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tagishsimon (talk • contribs) 00:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC). Oops, yes it was. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
But is it 'degenerative'? I'll ask the lady that wrote that article. She's done some amazing research into the medical symptoms and condition of Peter Carter. -- SteveCrook 00:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, that word was a flyer; but I seem to recall that the urgency of the operation was based on the likelihood that the condition would degenerate. AMOLAD was on the telly a few days ago. Excellent stuff. And yes, A Matter of Fried Onions is an interesting read. --Tagishsimon (talk)
Tagishsimon, I have to query that last change about Peter & June not falling in love until after Conductor 71's mistake. It's due to the mistake by Conductor 71 that they met and fell deeper in love which made Peter more determined not to leave her. But as part of his defence he says "We fell in love before we'd ever met". When he's being questioned by Farlan, just after the "enamoured" gag. Sorry to be pedantic and I don't want to put anyone off contributing anything to this or any other article. But it is my favourite film. After hundreds of viewings I'm still in tears every time I see it. Peter's argument was more that despite being in love with June (or her voice and what she said) he was ready to die whe he jumped. But because of Conductor 71's mistake he survived the jump and met June. They had some time together and now it would be more cruel to split them up. -- SteveCrook 03:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'm happy to bow to your analysis of this, Steve. Para 3 of the spoiler also mentions him falling in love. Perhaps we should make changes to state he falls in love in P1, and further in love in P3. You or I can re-edit it later; but I have to go to work now. Oh, and FWIW, I wonder if we should / could add some more info on the "other place" ... Trubshaw (?) does not get a look in in our explanation, and we might be able to say something about the record keeping &c. --Tagishsimon (talk)
I asked Diane Friedman, the lady that wrote the "A Matter of Fried Onions" article and she says that even though it's causing him more and more problems, Pater's problem shouldn't be called degenerative. She suggests we use the phrase "a rapidly progressing brain injury" because the origin is amiguous. Diane is an advanced-practice nurse from Illinois specialising in neurology and sleep disorders and is very interested in treament of trauma, epilepsy and other brain related problems. We could add a whole other section about the accuracy of the medical references that Diane has identified. They show that Powell & Pressburger really did their homework. Sometimes for things that are only on screen very briefly but are medically accurate and would only have been known by a few people in 1946.
The article could do with a whole lot of other work. What about Dr. Reeves, Abraham Farlan, Conductor 71, they could all do with more explanation and description. What about the naked goat herd, the Americans rehearsing A Midsummer Night's Dream, Dr. Reeves' diagnosis, Conductor 71's stopping time? The poetry, the metaphysical discussions, the staircase, the "other place".
The trouble is that I love the film so much and it hits me right in the emotions so I find it hard to write about it in a neutral way. -- SteveCrook 11:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Parachute
If there was a dead crewmate aboard the bomber, why didn't Peter just take his parachute? Clarityfiend 08:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Good question. Bob Trubshaw (?), the dead navigator, turns up in the other place and hangs around waiting for Carter; and specifies that he knew (once dead) that Carter's 'chute was shot-up. I can't recall Trubshaw offering an explanation for Carter not nicking Trubshaw's parachute. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
June: Your sparks. You said he was dead. Hasn't he got a 'chute? Peter: Cut to ribbons. Cannon shell. Later, when Trubshaw is explaining things to the Chief Recorder he says that Peter's brolly was written off. "He got a direct hit while he was bandaging me." -- SteveCrook 11:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Trivia - is this interesting?
If the character of June is taken as being the same age as the actress Kim Hunter (born 1922), it makes her 22 years old when the film is set. As, according to the conductor, she is to live until she is 97, she is still alive today and will pass away in 2020.
I know some people don't like trivia sections, but I'm sure I'm not the only person who would find this both interesting and charming - any thoughts? fizzybrain 87.81.62.83 (talk) 17:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's interesting to those of us that love the film. But I don't think it's of enough general interest to include it. Shame she died in 2002, aged 79 -- SteveCrook (talk) 23:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Blockquote
Ah, I see now why you put them in blockquotes Ed. The Salwolke book is full of errors [2]. I'll try to find the original quotes or passages that he copied from (and see if he got them right) -- SteveCrook (talk) 19:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- That would be great - I got the quote second hand through the TCM article. Information on IMDB about the number of steps on the escaltor contradicts what Salwokle wrote, but since it came from the IMDB Trivia section and was unattributed, I went with the citable material. Please feel free to correct, dissect and unquote! Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 20:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- I put the trivia item in the IMDb - and I got it from the Eric Warman book which has a photo of the escalator and quite a bit more information about it. I think it's more the case that Salwolke contradicts what everyone else wrote :) -- SteveCrook (talk) 00:24, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- That's great, since they're your words, you can use them verbatim again! I would have done that, since they were just fine as is, but wanted to avoid copyvio. Excellent. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 01:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Bolding
Ed Fitzgerald, you claim bolding names in the cast notes is "a fairly standard technique which is widely used in that way." Fine, then you'll have no problem pointing out some examples. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)