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:{{notdone}} This appears to simply be yet another fan forum related to the car; those links are often removed from the [[Fiero]] article. There is nothing there that can be used as a reliable source. The site was added when it was repeatedly spammed in 2006, see [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2006-08#fiero.nl here]. At any rate, this is not blacklisted here on the english wikipedia, but on the meta spam list which stretches across all languages. You'll need to go there, but I would not expect action. [[User:Kuru|<font face="Segoe print" color = "#cd853f">Kuru</font>]] [[User talk:Kuru|<font color = "#f5deb3"><sup>''talk''</sup></font>]] 14:50, 29 November 2009 (UTC) |
:{{notdone}} This appears to simply be yet another fan forum related to the car; those links are often removed from the [[Fiero]] article. There is nothing there that can be used as a reliable source. The site was added when it was repeatedly spammed in 2006, see [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2006-08#fiero.nl here]. At any rate, this is not blacklisted here on the english wikipedia, but on the meta spam list which stretches across all languages. You'll need to go there, but I would not expect action. [[User:Kuru|<font face="Segoe print" color = "#cd853f">Kuru</font>]] [[User talk:Kuru|<font color = "#f5deb3"><sup>''talk''</sup></font>]] 14:50, 29 November 2009 (UTC) |
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==www.army-guide.com== |
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<big>>> NOTE: I'm adding this again because the site is still blacklisted even though it was decided in the discussion below to unblacklist it. <<</big> - [[User:SuperTank17|SuperTank17]] ([[User talk:SuperTank17|talk]]) 20:18, 5 November 2009 (UTC) |
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The ''barmy-quide'' blocks it though. [[User:Flayer|Flayer]] ([[User talk:Flayer|talk]]) 12:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:Not quite, it's blocked because of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam&oldid=190660933#3_years_of_Spamming_of_http:.2F.2Fspam.army-guide.com spamming]. Can you explain why we should not expect this to restart if we deblacklist the site? [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle/wizard|talk]]) 17:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::Hmmm... No. But I've been reading this site for a while lately and everything was fine. [[User:Flayer|Flayer]] ([[User talk:Flayer|talk]]) 20:26, 3 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Sorry to jump in here, but I'm not sure why this site is blacklisted for spam. I reviewed the requirements for listing it as spam, and it doesn't seem to meet any. It was posted frequently in external links, but this appears to have been done by one or two 'enthusiastic' users with 'good intentions' (providing additional sources on the topic), which perhaps triggered the initial fear that this was a spam link. If you look at the links posted, they were all relevant to the page that they were posted in. If you look at the contributions of the people who posted them, they're on a wide variety of topics, not just one's associated with the site in question... so it doesn't appear to be for the sake of advertising or a bot (really, what could an 'army guide' have to do with wrestling?). Finally, yes, this site was posted frequently, but it's an extensive site, so it can be realistically associated with many articles here at Wikipedia. -[[User:Jonathon A H|Jonathon A H]] ([[User talk:Jonathon A H|talk]]) 21:58, 18 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Well, if it were unblacklisted, what pages from the site would you add, and to what articles? [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 16:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Hello. I'm currently working on BTR-60 article so unblacklisting BTR-60 and TAB-71 articles on the site would be very helpful. The site is a normal site about military vehicles with some very interesting and useful information so it doesn't make sense to blacklist it. Pages for various other weapon systems should also be unblacklisted or even better the whole site should be unblacklisted. There's nothing harmful in that site. Regards. - [[User:SuperTank17|SuperTank17]] ([[User talk:SuperTank17|talk]]) 23:51, 12 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::I'm inclined to deblacklist the site and will do so in a week or so if I don't see any further reason to change my mind. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 14:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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Please don't cut and pase archived discussions, linking to it is sufficient. Ie [[MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/September_2009#www.army-guide.com]]. |
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Since the site is still blacklisted, it appears removal has ''not'' been decided. |
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam&oldid=190660933#3_years_of_Spamming_of_http:.2F.2Fspam.army-guide.com Wide spread spam and abuse (Spam case)] |
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A concern here is, that after the initial blacklisting the spamming spread to other language projects. I'm not confident the spamming won't restart if removed, nor can you guaranty against its return. There doesn't appear to be any pressing need for its removal, nor am I convinced wikipedia benifits from the whole domain being delisted. However if a <u>specific link</u> is needed, feel free to request it on the whitelist on a case-by-case basis, where a url can be demonstrated as an appropriate source. thanks--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 06:21, 6 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:As I already stated in the archived discussion: There's nothing harmful on this website. The "spamming" resulted from the fact that there is a lot of useful information on that webiste. Have you even looked through it? Articles about military hardware could benefit greatly from this source. Also you justify keeping it on the blacklist by saying "nor am I convinced wikipedia benifits from the whole domain being delisted". As I already stated Wikipedia would benefit from this domain being unlisted. Also if the criteria to not be on the blacklist is to be beneficial to Wikipedia than you could blacklist 90% of all websites and that would take too much work to be worth it. You also speak of "spamming spreading to other language projects". If a source is being used for an article about a certain subject does it mean that articles about the exactly the same subject but in different languages are prohibited from using that source? |
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:Oh and you say that "Since the site is still blacklisted, it appears removal has ''not'' been decided." Well a user named Stifle stated on 14:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC), in the end of the archived discussion: "I'm inclined to deblacklist the site and will do so in a week or so if I don't see any further reason to change my mind." Well if he found a reason to change his mind why didn't he say anything about it? I've waited for weeks for that site to delisted and then I saw that it was pushed into the archives making all of the progress made in that discussion irrelevant. Regards. - [[User:SuperTank17|SuperTank17]] ([[User talk:SuperTank17|talk]]) 13:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC) |
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::Since the discussion hasn't continued for a long time I propose removing this website from the blacklist. As I already proven the website isn't harmful and is in fact beneficial to Wikipedia. Regards. - [[User:SuperTank17|SuperTank17]] ([[User talk:SuperTank17|talk]]) 21:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC) |
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I'm again requesting this site to unblacklisted. There's nothing harmful on it, it has information that would beneficial to Wikipedia and there's no reason to keep it on the blacklist. Regards. - [[User:SuperTank17|SuperTank17]] ([[User talk:SuperTank17|talk]]) 21:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC) |
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=Troubleshooting and problems= |
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Mediawiki:Spam-blacklist is meant to be used by the spam blacklist extension. Unlike the meta spam blacklist, this blacklist affects pages on the English Wikipedia only. Any administrator may edit the spam blacklist. See Wikipedia:Spam blacklist for more information about the spam blacklist.
There are 4 sections for posting comments below. Please make comments in the appropriate section. These links take you to the appropriate section:
Each section has a message box with instructions. In addition, please sign your posts with ~~~~ after your comment.
Completed requests are archived. Additions and removals are logged, reasons for blacklisting can be found there.
Addition of the templates {{Link summary}} (for domains), {{IP summary}} (for IP editors) and {{User summary}} (for users with account) results in the COIBot reports to be refreshed. See User:COIBot for more information on the reports.
If in doubt, please leave a request and a spam-knowledgeable admin will follow-up.
Please consider using Special:BlockedExternalDomains instead, powered by the AbuseFilter extension. This is faster and more easily searchable, though only supports whole domains and not whitelisting.
- Does the site have any validity to the project?
- Have links been placed after warnings/blocks? Have other methods of control been exhausted? Would referring this to our anti-spam bot, XLinkBot be a more appropriate step? Is there a WikiProject Spam report? If so, a permanent link would be helpful.
- Please ensure all links have been removed from articles and discussion pages before blacklisting. (They do not have to be removed from user or user talk pages).
- Make the entry at the bottom of the list (before the last line). Please do not do this unless you are familiar with regex — the disruption that can be caused is substantial.
- Close the request entry on here using either {{done}} or {{not done}} as appropriate. The request should be left open for a week maybe as there will often be further related sites or an appeal in that time.
- Log the entry. Warning: if you do not log any entry you make on the blacklist, it may well be removed if someone appeals and no valid reasons can be found. To log the entry, you will need this number - 329120336 after you have closed the request. See here for more info on logging.
- →snippet for logging: {{/request|329120336#section_name}}
- →snippet for logging of WikiProject Spam items: {{WPSPAM|329120336#section_name}}
- →snippet for logging: {{/request|329120336#section_name}}
- →A user-gadget for handling additions to and removals from the spam-blacklist is available at User:Beetstra/Gadget-Spam-blacklist-Handler
- →A user-gadget for handling additions to and removals from the spam-blacklist is available at User:Beetstra/Gadget-Spam-blacklist-Handler
Proposed additions
maltagenealogy.com and saidvassallo.com
maltagenealogy.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Related site that the sockpuppet attempted to add.
saidvassallo.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Tancarville (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Mobile historian (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Vassallo5448 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
This link has historically been spammed. We've got a probable sockpuppeteer. I'd like this site blacklisted to take the wind out of his sails. This will save much volunteer time. Jehochman Talk 22:46, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
- I've also, in the course of looking over the links from the suspect site, discovered User:Vassallo5448, who works with the same site, shares a similar name to Tancarville's (whose real name is Charles Said-Vassallo, the owner of the suspect website), and who started his Wikipedia account in September, within three days of Mobile historian's. The common link of all three editors is in their heavy interest in Maltese aristocracy, in their use of this website, and in the website's promotion on Wikipedia. RGTraynor 15:17, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- SAID-VASSALLO GROUP PTY LTD
- Possibly related;
- (saidvassallo.com/contact.htm {edited}@optusnet.com.au)
- optusnet.com.au: Linksearch en - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • MER-C Cross-wiki • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced • COIBot-Local - COIBot-XWiki - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.org • Live link: http://www.optusnet.com.au
- Vassallo Industries Industrias Vassallo, (zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=778139155 Webmaster)
- vassalloindustries.com: Linksearch en - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • MER-C Cross-wiki • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced • COIBot-Local - COIBot-XWiki - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.org • Live link: http://www.vassalloindustries.com
signsvisualny.com
signsvisualny.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com -- user has spammed this url to signage unabatedly. semi prot was denied as it was said that the site should be added to the blacklist instead, since it's one spam site and multiple IPs Theserialcomma (talk) 17:52, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Signs Visual Industries, Inc. /Spammed
- signsvisual.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- signsnewyork.net: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- largeformatprintingnewyork.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Related /spammed
- bannersnewyork.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Accounts
- 207.38.189.31 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
199.219.144.53 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
208.125.3.245 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
Added--Hu12 (talk) 19:34, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
earlywarningsys.com
earlywarningsys.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com - Various IPs have spammed this site onto the article for Civil defense siren for months, resuming as soon as the various rounds of semi-protection have lapsed. Dayewalker (talk) 02:58, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- Accounts (just a sampling of the IPs)
- Accounts (just a sampling of the IPs)
- 174.39.248.106 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.171.51 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.236.30 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.218.122 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.193.12 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.252.65 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- Redirect page
- disastersirens.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- More spam IP's
- 174.39.208.254 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 98.135.158.68 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.142.172 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 69.146.138.235 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.145.107 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.210.207 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.245.56 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- Trainman11185 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam)
- 174.39.219.214 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.224.185 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.157.247 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- Serious spamming including editwarring and bouts of vandalism[1][2][3][4], thanks for the report Added--Hu12 (talk) 04:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- Attempting to curcumvent, spamming text links[5][6] under;
- 174.39.242.73 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.242.73 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- These are the ranges;
- 174.39.208.254/18 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 174.39.142.172/17 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 98.135.158.68/32 (talk • contribs • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- 69.146.138.235/32 (talk • contribs • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
- If disruption continues we can consider range blocking as needed--Hu12 (talk) 15:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Attempting to curcumvent, spamming text links[5][6] under;
worldphototour.org
worldphototour.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
Persistent spamming over two years. See WikiProject Spam report. MER-C 02:44, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
triond.com
- links
- triond.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- computersight.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- healthmad.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- quazen.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- authspot.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- gameolosophy.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- notecook.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- socyberty.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
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- related report
All listed sites are part of the triond.com network. An account with Triond.com allows a user to upload a story to any of these sites, all of which are within the triond.com network. The network allows anyone to self-publish material, with no editorial oversight. A handful of the articles may have some degree of research - but the authors are unknown, and most appear to be using these sites to publish material that would fail WP:NOR if posted directly to Wikipedia.
From triond.com/info/how-it-works :
"Triond helps showcase your content so your work gets maximum readership and you earn recognition. As soon as your content is published, it begins generating revenue from several income sources, such as display and contextual advertising that appears on the pages of your content. We share with you 50% of the revenue generated by your content."
Given the content and the "how-it-works" evidence, this site appears to be a variant of the ehow concept. Some links may be reasonable to be white-listed if established editors find quality links to request; but most are simply allow original research to be disguised as a reliable source. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:47, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Proposed removals
cais-soas.com
This site (CAIS-SPAS) was apparently added a couple of years ago due to somewhat dubious reasons. It is an important and credible reference site for Iranian archeological sites as well as related publications.--Mehrshad123 (talk) 20:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
- Not dubious. This site was blocked at Meta after being identified as carrying images and content in violation of copyrights [7]. This site violates WP:Copyrights, Linking to copyrighted works. Declined --Hu12 (talk) 06:18, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
- The reference in question is a massive web site maintained by dozens of scholars from the University of London. There may be unresolved issues with a small number of the articles, (as is also the case with Wikipedia and many other large sites) but this is not a valid reason for blanket blocking of the entire site - especially one that is a major source of credible research and reference materials. In any case, the article that I wanted to include as a reference does not have any copyright issues. It can be found here: cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/iranian/anahita.htm I strongly suggest that the material form CAIS be treated on a case by case basis rather than blanket removal of the entire site.—Preceding .--Mehrshad123 (talk) 23:51, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- Has the requested reference link been evaluated yet?--Mehrshad123 (talk) 22:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- The reference in question is a massive web site maintained by dozens of scholars from the University of London. There may be unresolved issues with a small number of the articles, (as is also the case with Wikipedia and many other large sites) but this is not a valid reason for blanket blocking of the entire site - especially one that is a major source of credible research and reference materials. In any case, the article that I wanted to include as a reference does not have any copyright issues. It can be found here: cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/iranian/anahita.htm I strongly suggest that the material form CAIS be treated on a case by case basis rather than blanket removal of the entire site.—Preceding .--Mehrshad123 (talk) 23:51, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- First, you may want to consider internet archives such as the Wayback Machine, which host unmodified archived copies of webpages taken at various points in time, or search google, which may have sites (such as http://flh.tmu.ac.ir/hoseini/prehist/200.htm) that would be of interest to you.
- In any case, cais-soas.com is known for carrying a works in violation of the creator's copyright. Linking to copyrighted works, Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States (Intellectual Reserve v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry [8]).[9]. Additionaly wikipedias servers are located in the United States, it's of no benefit, nor in wikipedias intrest to link this site. Closing as Not done.--Hu12 (talk) 07:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
associatedcontent.com
Here: Here: associatedcontent.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com Why is this site blocked? Argues spam. Please remove this site of the blacklist. Associated content is a site recognized. Thanks! (Mago266 (talk) 04:27, 25 November 2009 (UTC))
- Not a valid reason for D-Listing the domain. Having an article on wikipedia does not make for an exception when Significant long term history of abuse and major breaches of official Wikipedia policy. Aditionaly, associated content fails Wikipedias specific inclusion requirements of our Verifiability Policy and Reliable Source guidelines. If a specific link is needed as a citation, an etablished editor can request it on the whitelist on a case-by-case basis, where the url can be demonstrated as an appropriate source (in an appropriate context) when there are no other reasonable alternatives available. Not done--Hu12 (talk) 16:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
HU12, thanks for attention, but I need very much this source.(Mago266 (talk) 19:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC))
- Why? For what article, and what link are you proposing is a reliable source? Kuru talk 14:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Art rock article, but no longer need because they are not considering the article. If I need, then I ask here. Thank's (Mago266 (talk) 02:57, 1 December 2009 (UTC))
fiero.nl
For some reason this site is listed here and blocked as spam. I can see no reason why this site is blocked as it has a large archive of useful information on the Fiero... from maintenance information on stock engines to build-up threads for engine swaps and body modifications. The userbase is extremely knowledgeable and, for the most part, quite friendly. If you would, please remove this site from the blacklist so that others interested in learning more about this car can do so.
Thanks. 76.114.90.132 (talk) 06:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)skuzzboomer
- Not done This appears to simply be yet another fan forum related to the car; those links are often removed from the Fiero article. There is nothing there that can be used as a reliable source. The site was added when it was repeatedly spammed in 2006, see here. At any rate, this is not blacklisted here on the english wikipedia, but on the meta spam list which stretches across all languages. You'll need to go there, but I would not expect action. Kuru talk 14:50, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
www.army-guide.com
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>> NOTE: I'm adding this again because the site is still blacklisted even though it was decided in the discussion below to unblacklist it. << - SuperTank17 (talk) 20:18, 5 November 2009 (UTC) The barmy-quide blocks it though. Flayer (talk) 12:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Please don't cut and pase archived discussions, linking to it is sufficient. Ie MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/September_2009#www.army-guide.com. Since the site is still blacklisted, it appears removal has not been decided. A concern here is, that after the initial blacklisting the spamming spread to other language projects. I'm not confident the spamming won't restart if removed, nor can you guaranty against its return. There doesn't appear to be any pressing need for its removal, nor am I convinced wikipedia benifits from the whole domain being delisted. However if a specific link is needed, feel free to request it on the whitelist on a case-by-case basis, where a url can be demonstrated as an appropriate source. thanks--Hu12 (talk) 06:21, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
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I'm again requesting this site to unblacklisted. There's nothing harmful on it, it has information that would beneficial to Wikipedia and there's no reason to keep it on the blacklist. Regards. - SuperTank17 (talk) 21:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Troubleshooting and problems
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For Spam reports or requests originating from this page, use template {{/request|0#section_name}}
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Addition to the COIBot reports
The lower list in the COIBot reports now have after each link four numbers between brackets (e.g. "www.example.com (0, 0, 0, 0)"):
- first number, how many links did this user add (is the same after each link)
- second number, how many times did this link get added to wikipedia (for as far as the linkwatcher database goes back)
- third number, how many times did this user add this link
- fourth number, to how many different wikipedia did this user add this link.
If the third number or the fourth number are high with respect to the first or the second, then that means that the user has at least a preference for using that link. Be careful with other statistics from these numbers (e.g. good user who adds a lot of links). If there are more statistics that would be useful, please notify me, and I will have a look if I can get the info out of the database and report it. This data is available in real-time on IRC.
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When adding {{LinkSummary}}, {{UserSummary}} and/or {{IPSummary}} templates to WT:WPSPAM, WT:SBL, WT:SWL and User:COIBot/Poke (the latter for privileged editors) COIBot will generate linkreports for the domains, and userreports for users and IPs.
Discussion
examiner.com redux
- examiner.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
It was proposed for removal above and then withdrawn, but I'd like to reopen it. I agree that it's not a particularly reliable source. If someone used it to back up a dubious fact or to establish notability, I'd challenge them on it. But sources of questionable reliability are not blanket banned using technical means; there's no community consensus for that (that I'm aware of). Our reliable source guidelines say that articles should primarily rely on reliable sources, but as with all our guidelines, it's subject to discretion and exception. I believe that using the spam blacklist in this way exceeds the scope of what it's supposed to be for, and that this case is gray enough that it shouldn't be listed. As well, I don't believe that examiner.com has any unique conflicts of interest in terms of the author's compensation... I can't imagine many web sites where a goal isn't to drive traffic. Anyway in summary, I agree that it's "blog like"... I agree that it should be used with caution, but I disagree that it should be blanket banned using the blunt instrument of the spamlist. Gigs (talk) 00:15, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- I poked around to see if there was a standing community consensus on this, I didn't find one, but I did find this arbcom finding that says specifically that "Blacklisting is not to be used to enforce content decisions." Gigs (talk) 02:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well, Gigs, that was quite a blanket statement, which I don't think is a reason to de-blacklist (basically, all blacklisted items are content decisions saying 'we don't want this content here'; and you seem to assume that it was blacklisted because we want to keep out the content, maybe it was just plainly spammed?)
- Regarding the examiner.com, there are several discussions stating it is not a reliable source: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_35#examiner.com_.3D_paid_blogging.2C_no_editorial_oversight, Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_38#Request_to_reopen_discussion_on_examiner.comWikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_39#Examiner.com, Wikipedia_talk:Reliable_sources/archive_21#Examiner, Wikipedia_talk:Reliable_sources/archive_21#Examiner.com. Basically, no editorial oversight, self published sources
- Regarding spamming, I found at least one editor who was spamming their own work, Special:Contributions/Thetwilightexaminer, unfortunately too many records, I may be able to examine more of this. Maybe the MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist can be of assistance here? --Dirk Beetstra T C 15:39, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- If it were spammed in a widespread manner that something lesser like XLinkBot can't handle then that's fine. But the main reason given for its initial and continued listing seems to be that it's not a particularly reliable source, which is something I don't agree with and I don't believe there's community consensus for. The reliability of a source should have no bearing whatsoever on a blacklist listing. The same goes with the discussions above regarding ehow.com, associated content, etc. Yes, I could probably get the specific link I wanted whitelisted, but I guess I'm concerned about the larger issue here of black and white listing decisions being driven by WP:RS instead of actual spam concerns. Maybe we should transplant this to the discussion section below, and we can hold this request pending the outcome of that larger discussion? Gigs (talk) 20:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- As shown above there infact has been spamming and abuse, additionaly community consensus is rooted in Wikipedia policies of whats acceptable for inclusion, and in this case of Examiner.com links;
- Have no editorial oversight (see WP:RS) and articles are essentially self-published
- Offers its authors financial incentives to increase page views
- ""Examiners" are paid a very competitive rate based on standard Internet variables including page views, unique visitors, session length, and advertising performance. "
- Fails Wikipedia's core content policies:
- As shown by community discussion and consensus, the reliability of a source has a determining factor on what is or is not removed or whitelisted. On that basis this request is Declined. However, If a specific link is needed as a citation, as suggested, it can be requested on the MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist on a case-by-case basis, where the url can be demonstrated as a reliable source. The guideline that most directly relates to whether a given source is reliable is Reliable sources. The policies that most directly relate to this are: Verifiability and No original research. For questions and discussions debating the reliability of sources, the appropriate place for discussion is at the Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard. thanks. --Hu12 (talk) 21:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- As shown above there infact has been spamming and abuse, additionaly community consensus is rooted in Wikipedia policies of whats acceptable for inclusion, and in this case of Examiner.com links;
- If it were spammed in a widespread manner that something lesser like XLinkBot can't handle then that's fine. But the main reason given for its initial and continued listing seems to be that it's not a particularly reliable source, which is something I don't agree with and I don't believe there's community consensus for. The reliability of a source should have no bearing whatsoever on a blacklist listing. The same goes with the discussions above regarding ehow.com, associated content, etc. Yes, I could probably get the specific link I wanted whitelisted, but I guess I'm concerned about the larger issue here of black and white listing decisions being driven by WP:RS instead of actual spam concerns. Maybe we should transplant this to the discussion section below, and we can hold this request pending the outcome of that larger discussion? Gigs (talk) 20:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- Gigs, the fact that "Examiners" are paid a very competitive rate based on standard Internet variables including page views, unique visitors, session length, and advertising performance. " is a HUGE spam incentive, and many, even SINGLE additions are basically spam, not edits to improve the Wikipedia. The existence of that incentive also results in some cases in violation of WP:ELNO #2, and moreover it fails WP:RS where most of the documents simply can NOT be used as a reference. Simply, in by far the most cases this site should not be linked to, it has been abused, and hence it is blacklisted with the clear possibility to whitelist individual pages on this site.
- You would have a case if it was solely blacklisted for violation of WP:RS, but that is not the case. --Dirk Beetstra T C 09:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Every site has employees or authors that, if they were to add links to said site, it would represent a conflict of interest (and probably should be reverted). Most sites make money through traffic. If we block sites on the grounds that they make money from traffic, then we'll need to block most of the Internet. As for WP:ELNO #2, obviously it is not examiner's goal to mislead people through incorrect information. That clause seems directed more at hoax sites. And again, I don't see why the editorial decision over whether a site is a reliable source for a certain fact or not should be dictated through the administrative means of a black list. I don't see why the reliability or lack thereof should even be a factor here at all. I doubt many editors are aware that the black list is being used in this way. It may be useful to open an RFC to see where the consensus is. Gigs (talk) 17:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)