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Can somebody explain to me, Bunjevac from Lika, how can we be considered to be Roman-Catholic Vlachs from Western Herzegovina, if term "Vlach" is coming from "Walachian", refering to people from Walachia, Romania? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.76.158.162|95.76.158.162]] ([[User talk:95.76.158.162#top|talk]]) 07:54, 26 May 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Can somebody explain to me, Bunjevac from Lika, how can we be considered to be Roman-Catholic Vlachs from Western Herzegovina, if term "Vlach" is coming from "Walachian", refering to people from Walachia, Romania? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.76.158.162|95.76.158.162]] ([[User talk:95.76.158.162#top|talk]]) 07:54, 26 May 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Edit warring by Mikola22 == |
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{{u|Mikola22}}, explain, please, your stubborn reverting. "We must respect sources" is not an explanation for actions like this: {{diff2|937009811}}. If I am mistaken, show the source, where it says "Mykola, remove the footnote!". On the contrary, I have shown that the word "minority" is used in the source, but you delete it without any "respect".--[[User:Nicoljaus|Nicoljaus]] ([[User talk:Nicoljaus|talk]]) 11:35, 22 January 2020 (UTC) |
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Tesla mention
I'm not sure characterizing Nikola Tesla as "Croatian" is backed by any reference. As far as I know he was "Serbian" by birth, in that his father was an Orthodox priest, and he himself had no strong religious views (Atheist being the closest). Since Smiljan is in Croatia, there is no need to emphasize Tesla's nationality at all. cerniagigante (talk) 08:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- This was a newbie edit to the lead that was also misplaced, I've cleaned it up now. In the future please be bold and edit yourself. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 09:31, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Edit war
Just stop to edit war - I read very well the sources, even years before, and especially before You. In the census ie. sources there is no listed Serbian Orthodox "Vlachs", nor "Vlachs", yet only Vlachs. Their confession, which is Serbian Orthodox, is later listed in the article's paragraph.--Crovata (talk) 03:14, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- You reverted with the comment "Stop to WP:EDITWAR, last warning before report - ethnically by term-name there is no listed "Vlachs" or Serbian Orthodox "Vlachs" in census, only Vlachs". Could you answer me: What does "ethnically by term-name" mean? Is the Demography section including or meant to include the over 300 years old original register and/or the study? Where is it made clear which one, or if both, is meant? Why do you cherry-pick? Does the average reader know what "Vlachs" is meant by (elaborated on in the sources cited by yourself) in this sentence? Why is Šarić's view on Serb-Vlach ethnicity neglected? And lastly: Do you think the current sentence in the article, "Most of them were Bunjevci (1.312), then Vlachs (208), and Carniolians (16)", is adequate? Wow, you read a source before me, congratulations.--Zoupan 03:31, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- I did, and that's the difference - I cite the modern scholars considerations, you cite Serbian Orthodox Church and own subjective POV. The POV of the source is against the initial POV of edits and comments you done year(s) ago on the topic of Vlachs/Morlachs. In the census list in Smiljan are listed Bunjevci, Vlachs and Carniolians, not Roman Catholic "Bunjevci" etc. It's like to write that in the recent census in Serbia were listed "Serbs", Roman Catholic "Croats", Bosniaks (without "")... What Vlachs mean? They have corresponding article Vlachs of Croatia which is linked as well, and where source is cited. I don't cherry-pick, neither the ethnicity is neglected (you're accusing me for something I don't do), yet you twist census and source data.--Crovata (talk) 03:46, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Crovata: "modern scholars considerations"? Your use of words are confusing. Why don't you cite/interpret/present them in this "modern scholarly consideration"? Am I subjectively POVing by citing the source you yourself added? Are you serious in comparing with a recent census? The source is not a census. Stop it, it is getting bizarre. I take this as your inability to properly answer.--Zoupan 04:00, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- I did, and that's the difference - I cite the modern scholars considerations, you cite Serbian Orthodox Church and own subjective POV. The POV of the source is against the initial POV of edits and comments you done year(s) ago on the topic of Vlachs/Morlachs. In the census list in Smiljan are listed Bunjevci, Vlachs and Carniolians, not Roman Catholic "Bunjevci" etc. It's like to write that in the recent census in Serbia were listed "Serbs", Roman Catholic "Croats", Bosniaks (without "")... What Vlachs mean? They have corresponding article Vlachs of Croatia which is linked as well, and where source is cited. I don't cherry-pick, neither the ethnicity is neglected (you're accusing me for something I don't do), yet you twist census and source data.--Crovata (talk) 03:46, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Bunjevci
Can somebody explain to me, Bunjevac from Lika, how can we be considered to be Roman-Catholic Vlachs from Western Herzegovina, if term "Vlach" is coming from "Walachian", refering to people from Walachia, Romania? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.76.158.162 (talk) 07:54, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Edit warring by Mikola22
Mikola22, explain, please, your stubborn reverting. "We must respect sources" is not an explanation for actions like this: [1]. If I am mistaken, show the source, where it says "Mykola, remove the footnote!". On the contrary, I have shown that the word "minority" is used in the source, but you delete it without any "respect".--Nicoljaus (talk) 11:35, 22 January 2020 (UTC)