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Hello! I noticed that the twitter account of ''The Signpost'' has not posted since August 2016. Who is in charge of that? The Facebook account is similar, having not posted since Feb. 2017. [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small><sup>'' [[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]</sub>'' </small> 14:18, 17 December 2017 (UTC) |
Hello! I noticed that the twitter account of ''The Signpost'' has not posted since August 2016. Who is in charge of that? The Facebook account is similar, having not posted since Feb. 2017. [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small><sup>'' [[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]</sub>'' </small> 14:18, 17 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:Isn't that answered at [[#New editor-in-chief]]? ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 21:37, 17 December 2017 (UTC) |
:Isn't that answered at [[#New editor-in-chief]]? ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 21:37, 17 December 2017 (UTC) |
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== December issue == |
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*In The Media: ''This American Life'' [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Next_issue/In_the_media#Interview with the monkey selfie photographer|writeup]] by Bluerasberry correctly describes their misunderstandings of the Wikipedia community but perhaps doesn't go far enough. He encouraged me to bring my thoughts here. First of all you might want to read the transcript [https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/631/transcript here]. It contains such zingers as "Anyone could use it [the photograph] ... for free ... that was just stealing ... but now anyone could download it from Wikipedia!", "This decision of Wikipedia's to declare the photo public domain ... it was the moment when mother nature was shoved aside..." and "Wikimedia just gave him the finger ..." As Bluerasberry correctly points out this totally conflates Wikipedia the work, the community, and the WMF. But it also has really obnoxious and strident tone towards our decisions, and doesn't address the central issue that ''we aren't inventing law'' but interpreting it, maybe in favor of open-knowledge projects towards which we are biased, but nonetheless acting within the same framework as the photographer. In fact the article never mentions open knowledge, or any communities associated with it including the Wikipedia community. The first quote above actually bothers me the most, by ignoring the fact that PD images are obtainable anywhere by their nature; they are reporting this as if Wikipedia (Wikimedia Commons actually but I won't quibble) is an especially devious and antisocial repository of illicit images, like [[The Pirate Bay]] or something. I'm struggling with how these things should be captured in the context of a response to a media piece which, seems to me, isn't deserving of the title journalism at all but rather entertainment. ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 05:07, 30 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::The content which is there is first thoughts. When I wrote it even I did not know how to feel or respond. I think we should avoid discussion of whether this is journalism; ''This American Life'' is the world's most popular podcast so either it is journalism or otherwise we should avoid labeling them, because they define a concept of reporting. I have a lot of sympathy for the photographer. Regardless of who is right or wrong, that person feels hurt and harassed. They never asked to be at the middle of a social movement with thousands of commentators, and no one should be expected to know copyright law like the Wikimedia community. |
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::I would like to direct this piece into something positive where we can acknowledge that people get confused about Wikimedia and copyright, and assert the Wiki perspective, and also be introspective about what we can do better. Obviously the photographer and the podcast put a lot of thought into their show. My intuition is that they looked for official statements or an explanation and perhaps they failed to find them. Could it be the case that no one from the wiki community has ever talked with the photographer? This ''Signpost'' piece could advance that conversation. [[User:Bluerasberry|<span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">''' Blue Rasberry '''</span>]][[User talk:Bluerasberry|<span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span>]] 13:29, 30 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:::It might work better split between basic coverage in ITM, and an op-ed for you (either of you) to delve further into what's wrong the piece, give your take on it, make a response, be introspective, etc. - <u>'''[[User:Evad37|Evad]]''37'''''</u> <span style="font-size:95%;">[[[d:w:User talk:Evad37|talk]]]</span> 14:17, 30 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::::I'll think about whether another op-ed would be a good thing, since an earlier one by {{U|Newyorkbrad}} [[WP:Wikipedia Signpost/2016-01-20/Op-ed|appeared]] in the 2016-01-20 edition. It might be at least worth contrasting technology.ie's excellent podcast and interview [http://technology.ie/monkey-selfie-photographer-david-slater-tells-story-audio/ here]. They ''do'' go into [[animal-made art]], open knowledge, and even the WMF transparency report that discusses the issue. ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 16:55, 30 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::::I just found an [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-08-13/In_the_media|ITM]] (2014-08-13) that discussed the technology.ie coverage of the monkey selfie; it also discusses reactions to the same issue in the WMF transparency report. So maybe there's even less than I thought worth rehashing today. ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 18:08, 30 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::I am watching the suggested deadline in 5 days. I am offline next three days (till Monday). I will re-draft this then, probably following the advice to not repeat the last Signpost piece on this and then to compare and contrast. Maybe this will be an "in the news" and an "opinion", or maybe just in the news. I need to think a bit. I am still on this and aware of deadlines but out for a bit. [[User:Bluerasberry|<span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">''' Blue Rasberry '''</span>]][[User talk:Bluerasberry|<span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span>]] 16:20, 8 December 2017 (UTC) |
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Hi All! Just wanted to note that with the closure of the Wikipedia Women in Red Contest, I plan to be pack on editing the Signpost in December. That is... If you guys can still use an inexperienced writer like me. [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small><sup>'' [[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]</sub>'' </small> 00:47, 1 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:Thanks Eddie, good to see you're still around. Welcome back {{smiley}} - <u>'''[[User:Evad37|Evad]]''37'''''</u> <span style="font-size:95%;">[[[d:w:User talk:Evad37|talk]]]</span> 00:59, 1 December 2017 (UTC) |
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*Just added an "in brief" item to next issue's [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/In the media|In the media]] which includes a wikilink to a page in my personal space [[User:Bri/Wikiturfing]]. Just putting this out there in case somebody wants to change it to a regular article entry like [[whitewashing]] – my feelings won't be hurt. ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 17:50, 5 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::Are you suggesting a cut and paste, then a major editing spree combined with taking all the accolades for the brilliant prose and then claiming that it was written by me? Sounds like it will be future fodder for a humour piece. [[User:Barbara (WVS)|Barbara (WVS)]] <span style="color: darkred;">[[User talk:Barbara (WVS)|✐]] [[Special:Emailuser/Barbara (WVS)|✉]]</span> 23:44, 10 December 2017 (UTC) |
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*[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Next_issue/Technology_report|Technology Report]] is missing lead stories. Is there anything to report ... do we want to just run it with minor items? ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 03:48, 15 December 2017 (UTC) |
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*{{ping|Bluerasberry}} Is your ITM contribution done? There are some bulleted items at the end that seem out of place. ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 06:08, 15 December 2017 (UTC) |
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*'''Net neutrality non-event''' if anybody wants to try to squeeze this into In the Media. Sourcing is weak but here's a starter: [https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/7/19/15971344/2017-net-neutrality-protest-fcc-repeal][https://phys.org/news/2017-07-isps-net-neutrality-fans-protest.html] ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 22:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::{{Ping|Evad37}} I see you're probably putting together the issue ... if there's 30 minutes I'm going to try to put something up about this. ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 02:20, 18 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:::{{Ping|Bri}} Sure, I've still got to finish off tech news and work out what to do with News & notes - <u>'''[[User:Evad37|Evad]]''37'''''</u> <span style="font-size:95%;">[[[d:w:User talk:Evad37|talk]]]</span> 02:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::::Okay I think [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikipedia_Signpost%2FNext_issue%2FIn_the_media&type=revision&diff=815924376&oldid=815607449 this addition] is coherent but it could use another pair of eyes. ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 02:49, 18 December 2017 (UTC) |
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...pushes the publish button? I need the space to work on another riveting article. Best Regards, [[User:Barbara (WVS)|Barbara (WVS)]] <span style="color: darkred;">[[User talk:Barbara (WVS)|✐ ]] [[Special:Emailuser/Barbara (WVS)|✉ <sup> and Merry Christmas</sup>]]</span> 12:30, 17 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Barbara (WVS)}} Sorry, I've been offline for a few days. I will be publishing later today – but you can always start drafting in your userspace, and move it over to the newsroom pages later - <u>'''[[User:Evad37|Evad]]''37'''''</u> <span style="font-size:95%;">[[[d:w:User talk:Evad37|talk]]]</span> 01:50, 18 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::You are amazing. You probably doubled the content in one day. I am sorry I was so impatient. Best Regards, [[User:Barbara (WVS)|Barbara (WVS)]] <span style="color: darkred;">[[User talk:Barbara (WVS)|✐ ]] [[Special:Emailuser/Barbara (WVS)|✉ <sup> and Merry Christmas</sup>]]</span> 15:08, 18 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:::I think we should give Evad a virtual pat on the back for all his good work on this issue ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 15:27, 18 December 2017 (UTC) |
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New editor-in-chief
It has just come to my attention that there is a new editor in chief of The Signpost, User:Evad37. I would like to say good luck to him, and I hope that his taking the reigns will help the signpost get back on track, and would like to bid farewell to the former Editor-in-chief, Pete Forsyth. You will be missed. Good luck Evad! Eddie891 Talk Work 15:59, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the well wishes everyone, though it's really just noting/formalising the defacto job I've been doing for the last few issues - Evad37 [talk] 00:25, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
- +1 to everyone, thanks to Evad37 for stepping up and getting out some great issues already, and thanks to Pete for all the time and energy he devoted to the Signpost earlier!
- I have updated the About page, and in the process also removed some recently added social media and contact links that seem obsolete currently.
- However, we should make sure that the credentials for the longstanding @wikisignpost Twitter account are transitioned to the new editor-in-chief, as it has been the case since 2009. (I myself ran it when I was editor-in-chief in 2010/11, and handed over the password afterwards.) Who has these currently? And who is administrator of the Signpost's Facebook page?
- Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:42, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Gallery posting - Chickens
Greetings, Since the next issue Humour article is about chickens, I thought it would be also good for the gallery. First posting is now "out there". Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 18:29, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Chapter update Actrial
You note this "Wikimedia France held a General Assembly on 9 September 2011:". Sure that the date is correct ? --Gpesenti (talk) 02:55, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Social Media
Hello! I noticed that the twitter account of The Signpost has not posted since August 2016. Who is in charge of that? The Facebook account is similar, having not posted since Feb. 2017. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:18, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Isn't that answered at #New editor-in-chief? ☆ Bri (talk) 21:37, 17 December 2017 (UTC)