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Please also refer to the Talk I opened on your page for clarity on the issue. Thank YouJoe V 06:21, 20 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:I suggest referring to the reply I left to the message on my talk page which explains why the linked article fails to verify notability. If you continue to edit war over this matter you run a very real risk of being blocked from Wikipedia. Also be careful with accusations of ignorance or arrogance as these could be interpreted as making a [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attack]]. [[User:Bakilas|Bakilas]] ([[User talk:Bakilas|talk]]) 06:31, 20 October 2017 (UTC) |
:I suggest referring to the reply I left to the message on my talk page which explains why the linked article fails to verify notability. If you continue to edit war over this matter you run a very real risk of being blocked from Wikipedia. Also be careful with accusations of ignorance or arrogance as these could be interpreted as making a [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attack]]. [[User:Bakilas|Bakilas]] ([[User talk:Bakilas|talk]]) 06:31, 20 October 2017 (UTC) |
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== October 2017 == |
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[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|left|alt=Stop icon]] Your recent editing history at [[:Montego Bay]] shows that you are currently engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit war]]. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|talk page]] to work toward making a version that represents [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See [[Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle|BRD]] for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant [[Wikipedia:Noticeboards|noticeboard]] or seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|page protection]]. |
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'''Being involved in an edit war can result in your being [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]'''—especially if you violate the [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]], which states that an editor must not perform more than three [[Help:Reverting|reverts]] on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—'''even if you don't violate the three-revert rule'''—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 06:57, 20 October 2017 (UTC) |
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October 2017
Hello, I'm BilCat. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Mandeville, Jamaica have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 09:10, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Mandeville, Jamaica, you may be blocked from editing. BilCat (talk) 09:20, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
It is not a personal opinion
The information I added to the page are known facts and some are present here on Wikipedia. Mandeville is a town (the capital), located in the parish of Manchester. Some of the noted individuals in the article were Manchestionians but were not people born in the parish Capital. I also added two individuals whos pages are existent but are under review for fact checks. Please Search for the individuals, using any media outlet and even Wikipedia and you will see that the individuals I justifiably removed are in fact Manchester born individuals but were not born in the location in question, ie. Mandeville.
Thank you--Joe V 09:27, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- I appreciate your attempts to improve the article, but there were several problems that don't follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. First, the people you are adding have no proof of notability, which generally means they don't have Wikipedia articles. Please see WP:BLP and WP:LISTPEOPLE for the relevant guidelines. Second, I have double- checked the articles of the people already.in the list,, and removed those with no stated connection to Mandeville. This leads st doesn't just include those born in Mandeville, but those who worked or went to school in Mandeville. Thanks for understanding, and if you.have any more questions about the article, please use its talk page. - BilCat (talk) 09:40, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Please understand that I removed Sheryl Lee Ralph because she has no connection to the parish and has never visited the parish let alone Mandeville. Her only connection to Jamaica is a very distant connection through forefathers seen as though her parents were also US citizens. She has never visited the island neither have any of her parents or known family members. Please take this into consideration. Thank YouJoe V 09:46, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- Her article, Sheryl Lee Ralph, states that she lived in Mandeville for some time as a child, though this is not sourced there. That's why I've retained it for now. - BilCat (talk)
Sheryl Lee Ralph has never resided in Jamaica and her schooling history on various sites prove that. As far as her traveling history is concerned she has never been recorded to have ever even traveled to the island.
Joe V 09:57, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- I've added to sources to her article that state she lived in Mandeville as a child. As to her not having ever traveled to Jamaica, she was in The Mighty Quinn (film), which was filmed in Jamaica. She's in several outdoor scenes that certainly look like they were filmed in Jamaica, so I don't know how you can claim she never even visited the island, at least as an adult. Of course her accent was atrocious. - BilCat (talk)
It is known that contrary to popular belief, the film was not actually shot on the island but rather on a very small island off the coast of Port Antonio in the parish of Portland. The island is Navy Island to be specific. The reason for this was because a few of the actors had not obtained the proper work permits to work on the island so initially they were not allowed to film on the island. Seeing the potential loss of income the government highlighted a clause and told the crew that they would be allowed to film on either "Goat Island" or "Navy Island" (two small islands off the coast of Jamaica, to the South and North respectively) and they chose the latter. After filming on the island during the daytime the actors would return to the mainland as tourists (having to go through immigration every morning and evening). Crew members who obtained the proper permits, however, proceeded to film on the mainland but were restricted to the small farming community of Oraccabessa. Joe V 04:19, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Do you have a source for this? Please remember to sign your talk with four tildes "~~~~" Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 04:15, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Are you referring to Sheryl Lee Ralph? Joe V 04:18, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- To whom are you talking to? See wp:Indentation. This helps others follow the conversation. By my indenting once, I am replying to the talk just above this line. How did you generate the "Joe V 04:18, 20 October 2017 (UTC)" above? It looks rather unusual. Did you add for tildes? Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 04:29, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- I was referring to the content above the (talk page stalker) line. Jim1138 (talk) 04:30, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
I have not been able to find any articles online that I would be able to link that's why I've left the article. However, what I said is common knowledge and is taught on the tour of three major Jamaican museums, the "National Gallery of Jamaica", the "National Museum" and "The Univerity of the West Indies museum". And yes, I noticed my error in not signing my comment and added my signature. Better late than never! :)Joe V 04:37, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Is a wp:disambiguation page. Entries need to link to another Wikipedia article. I removed your entry as it wasn't linked. Also, on other articles, per wp:verifiability, significant information must wp:cite a wp:reliable source. Jim1138 (talk) 04:24, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Byway
Montego Bay is not a byway. Unless you have something which is a byway to link to, don't add it. See WP:EDIT WARRING Jim1138 (talk) 04:51, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Montego Bay is not identified as a byway, Spanish Town and Portmore are and are identified as byways in the article linked. In the first paragraph to be exact.Joe V 05:03, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
October 2017
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Montego Bay. Jim1138 (talk) 05:44, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Please desist from trailing my edits as this is against user policy. The individuals I added to the lists, and will be re-adding, are in coherence with the guidelines established by Wikipedia. Your removal of my numerous edits are as malicious and warrant permanently barring you from editing on Wikipedia. The individuals were not only added but their notability was established with various external links (which shows notability) and these individuals are well awarded. If you find fault with my edits please pursue clarity and do not edit from a place of ignorance and/or arrogance. Thank YouJoe V 05:51, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Please also note that Wikipedia does not only allow for only those with Wiki Pages to be identified as established but also those who's notability is established through the use of an external article which involves or cites the person. This guideline was met in the additions I made to the article.Joe V 05:59, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- A mention in a paper regarding a post handd-over is not a ticket to Wikipedia notability. Jim1138 (talk) 06:06, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
The article I cited was a breaking news article that notified the public of the individual's death (Please read the article in its entirety). The article was published the day after his death. Following the funeral, there was an article printed on the individual, however, the newspapers' online database does not go back as far as 2009 so I was unable to cite that and settled for the news briefing. Please also take into consideration the fact that newspapers do not send out breaking news stories for EVERY civilian who dies, so the fact that there was a breaking news story on the individual shows he was renowned. Ps: I am A Jamaican and this individual's life/legacy has been taught to us in class. This doesn't happen for every unknown person.Joe V 06:10, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Mandeville, Jamaica
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Mandeville, Jamaica. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.
If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to be blocked from editing Wikipedia. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. Thank you. Bakilas (talk) 06:13, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Please desist from trailing my edits as this is against user policy. The individuals I added to the lists, and will be re-adding, are in coherence with the guidelines established by Wikipedia. Your removal of my numerous edits are as malicious and warrant permanently barring you from editing on Wikipedia. The individuals were not only added but their notability was established with various external links (which shows notability) and these individuals are well awarded. If you find fault with my edits please pursue clarity and do not edit from a place of ignorance and/or arrogance. Thank You
Please also note that Wikipedia does not only allow for only those with Wiki Pages to be identified as established but also those who's notability is established through the use of an external article which involves or cites the person. This guideline was met in the additions I made to the article.
Please also refer to the Talk I opened on your page for clarity on the issue. Thank YouJoe V 06:21, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- I suggest referring to the reply I left to the message on my talk page which explains why the linked article fails to verify notability. If you continue to edit war over this matter you run a very real risk of being blocked from Wikipedia. Also be careful with accusations of ignorance or arrogance as these could be interpreted as making a personal attack. Bakilas (talk) 06:31, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
October 2017
![Stop icon](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/30px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png)
Your recent editing history at Montego Bay shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. BilCat (talk) 06:57, 20 October 2017 (UTC)