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This is an IAR situation — our policies simply aren't made for situations in which our article might put someone's life at stake. I'm in the middle of attempting to remove on-wiki mentions of this guy's name; if you wish to dispute it, you would do well to contact Arbcom (see [[WP:ARBCOM#Contacting the Committee]]) about the situation. Please don't think that I'm challenging you to some sort of arbitration case: it's just that they know what they're doing about potentially significant privacy issues, and they can discuss this kind of thing offline. If you ask them for input, please ask them to contact me; I'll happily undo myself if they ask. Of course, you should feel free to contact me offline as well. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 03:48, 4 September 2014 (UTC) |
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National Gold Bank Note
Hi Knowledgekid87-
Thanks for setting up the table to accommodate the images. I will be happy to create reverse only images so each note can be seen obverse/reverse. I'll add some text in the remarks column about numbers of existing notes known for each denomination. Do you mind if I replace the existing $5 note with the new one? Thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 05:28, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
- Or... can I use the over/under images in the table and add the reverse of the $5 for the infobox?--Godot13 (talk) 05:32, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Godot13: - No I don't mind if you replace the $5 image and yeah, images of the reverse only would be great =) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:17, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
- Or... can I use the over/under images in the table and add the reverse of the $5 for the infobox?--Godot13 (talk) 05:32, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
delinking on chobits page
I was trying to get rid of section links per MOS:HEAD, but it looks like this was just a list of the characters so it wasn't needed. -AngusWOOF (talk) 22:30, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- Oh okay no problem. =) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:41, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Sailor Moon#GA?
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Sailor Moon#GA?. Thanks. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:01, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Template:Z48
Move review notification
Because you participated in the most recent discussion regarding the proposed move of Hillary Rodham Clinton, you are hereby notified per Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification that the administrative determination of consensus from that discussion is being challenged at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2014 May. Please feel free to comment there. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Knowledgekid87- I've been making some additions and a bit or re-organizing. Are you cool with how it is looking?--Godot13 (talk) 06:32, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Knowledgekid87- I rearranged the denomination type set table a little. I've nominated the set at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/U.S. National Gold Bank Notes (1871-1883) and didn't want to use 10 images (separate front and back) and it was pointed out that the images I nominated (over/under style) weren't actually used in the article. I hope you're okay with this change. Thanks--Godot13 (talk) 05:30, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Firemaster87
Hi KK87 I am a colonol for the Ukranian army. I know English and Ukranian. Our government has kept hidden the total number of deaths in this war against those bandits. I didnt want to keep anything hidden from the world so I wrote the true number.
- Well here on Wikipedia we need sources for things like this otherwise it is considered as WP:OR, this applies to all edits not just yours. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:34, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
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Sailor Moon task force
Hi, Knowledgekid87. As there is now consensus that the former Sailor Moon WikiProject is now a task force, it is possible if you can help me out on the reformat? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Madoka Magica genre
Hi, I reverted your edit the Puella Magi Madoka Magica article, because I am disputing the claim that it is a horror anime. While I was doing my research in writing the Production section, I was unable to find any information to indicate that the genre would be considered horror. I don't believe it fits the definition, nor do I believe the creators intended it to be anything more than a fantasy with some dark themes. I have started a discussion at Talk:Puella Magi Madoka Magica#"Horror" which you are welcome to respond to if you feel strongly about this issue. Artichoker[talk] 03:12, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
What do you mean by "This what you mean Mondolkiri1?"
I'm trying to be objective here! I'm not an admirer of Putin, nor an admirer of Svoboda. Neither an admirer of Al-Qaeda nor an admirer of Anders Breivik. Neither an admirer of Hitler nor an admirer of Stalin. Neither an admirer of Netanyahu nor an admirer of Hamas. Neither an admirer of Julius Malema nor an admirer of Pieter Botha. Mondolkiri1 (talk 08:47, 15 June 2014 (WEST - Lisbon Time)
June 2014
Please stop assuming ownership of articles as you did at Bosnian War. Behavior such as this is regarded as disruptive and could lead to edit wars and personal attacks, and is a violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.219.58.106 (talk) 02:12, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- @183.219.58.106 Stop posting unwarranted warnings on other editors pages. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:19, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- P.S. I am striking this blatantly improper warning. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:24, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, I brought the issue over to WP:ANI, I think this is from me asking for page protection over at Bosnian War. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- NP -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:24, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, I brought the issue over to WP:ANI, I think this is from me asking for page protection over at Bosnian War. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- 183.219.58.106 is an open proxy, now blocked for 2 years. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 06:10, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Wait. The geolocate feature indicates that this IP address is from China. I thought Wikipedia was illegal in China (although I may be wrong). Dustin (talk) 06:15, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Depends where in China are we talking about Hong Kong? Anyway thanks for the update James. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:04, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Dustin V. S.: Yes, anyone in china caught editing Wikipedia is likely to be in for trouble, but the point is that the IP address hosts an open proxy. That means that anyone anywhere in the world can connect to it and use it to edit. (I did so myself, in this edit.) The editor was probably not in China at all. The great firewall of China does not always block access to Wikipedia; I have no idea why. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 18:47, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Sailor Moon plot summary
I've contacted Tintor2 about this matter, but I'm thinking about rewriting the plot summary in the Sailor Moon article as I am doing in my sandbox. Can you help me out? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:20, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Nomination of Flag of the Federal State of Novorossiya for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Flag of the Federal State of Novorossiya is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flag of the Federal State of Novorossiya until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
- Note: AfD'd by a relatively new user probably unaware that the creator should be notified. Philg88 ♦talk 09:40, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Flags in the infobox of 2014 pro-Russian conflict in Ukraine
Hello, Knowledgekid87.
Yesterday (June 28) I added flags to the infobox regarding the 2014 Pro-Russian Conflict in Ukraine. Today (June 29), you removed my work, and told me to read WP:INFOBOXFLAG. Well I did read this, and it clearly states "Examples of acceptable exceptions include military conflict infobox templates..." If you have any concerns, fell free to leave me a message on my talk page. User talk:OBCPO1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.159.164 (talk) 03:08, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
You really shouldn't reverse the meaning of a sentence without checking the source. If you'd looked, you'd see that the source says:
The sad truth of it is that this isn’t total drivel, but it’s not so bad that it’s good, like “Friday” was. Will anything ever be able to match the awful goodness of that video? Seems very unlikely we’ll see such genius again from Black.
As such, the original wording was fine, and your version was completely wrong. Please be more careful in future- introducing errors into Wikipedia articles like that can be extremely damaging. J Milburn (talk) 09:34, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- @J Milburn:The sentence did not seem to make any sense but okay, I think it made more sense in the source when the song was compared to Friday. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:19, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- The sentence makes perfect sense. Something can be "so bad it's good", but, "unlike Black's previous song" this one was not. (I concede that "so bad it's good" is a questionable concept, and that contractions don't make for good formal writing, but that's why the phrase is linked.) J Milburn (talk) 10:36, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
Have a read?
User talk:JamesBWatson#More disruption by that dude that impersonated you a couple of weeks back OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:15, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
- @OccultZone: Thanks for the heads up. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:35, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
Survivor template
Hello, Knowledgekid87! I've been thinking for a while about what we could to the Survivor template. I'm actually sympathizing a little more with your version than some other users, but is there any possible way that we might could remove the duplicate links to make it more navigable and maybe change the title back to "Survivor (U.S. TV series) contestants"? I tried doing it myself, but I'm really unsure how to edit complicated templates such as this one without messing them up. If you have any other suggestions, feel free to tell me. Thanks for your time! X936?F57 (talk) 10:10, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- @X936?F57: I can remove the duplicate links under "Single season" if that is what you mean, I also don't see any issue with changing the template to US series although when you click on survivor or contestants it leads you there anyways. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:24, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- Just to let you know, the above account has been confirmed to be a sockpuppet of L'Aquotique. RGloucester — ☎ 20:47, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
- @RGloucester: Thanks, I don't think I have seen a more aggressive sock puppet before and all over a template no less. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:20, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
AN/I
Hi. I noted your suggestion here with interest. In a way it doesn't matter as your suggestion was (quite properly) ignored, but I am curious to know; on what grounds do you think I should have been topic-banned? --John (talk) 06:16, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- I think the point was just to keep this dispute from interfering with every single other editor on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 while you and TheAirplaneGuy resolve your own issue. In that way, it wouldn't be necessary to fully protect the article, keeping everyone out. Dustin (talk) 06:23, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- I see. And what issue would that be, User:Dustin V. S.? --John (talk) 06:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- @John: The issue being your edit wars, I suggested a topic ban not as a punishment but as a way for you two to work out your dispute perhaps on a talkpage or a different venue. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:05, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- @John: Despite linking my name, I didn't actually get pinged, so I apologize for the late reply. There obviously is some sort of issue otherwise it wouldn't have been brought to ANI. You should discuss the issue there. Dustin (talk) 16:16, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- It might be worth your looking at issues in a wee bit more detail before commenting on them at a central noticeboard. I was not edit-warring, TheAirplaneMan was. Which is why he was blocked. --John (talk) 19:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- @John: It is moot now, the discussion was closed before I could make a response to the idea of a topic ban. Sorry if you took it personally and I agree I should have seen that TheAirplaneMan was blocked. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:18, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- It might be worth your looking at issues in a wee bit more detail before commenting on them at a central noticeboard. I was not edit-warring, TheAirplaneMan was. Which is why he was blocked. --John (talk) 19:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- I see. And what issue would that be, User:Dustin V. S.? --John (talk) 06:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
IP user 82.123.63.47
Could you send a warning message to this user, please, for vandalism and name calling, please? (I don't know how to do it) At this rate it won't take a lot of time until he or she is blocked. And in what ways is the 2014 insurgency in Donbass article semi-protected? I don't notice any protection.Mondolkiri1 (talk) 21:25, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- It is only move-protected. The IP has been blocked. I'm thinking of applying for pending changes protection for the article. RGloucester — ☎ 21:25, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Mondolkiri1: I agree with Gloucester we should ask for page protection. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:26, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I also agree!Mondolkiri1 (talk) 21:30, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- @RGloucester: Go ahead and request it Gloucester. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:31, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I also agree!Mondolkiri1 (talk) 21:30, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Mondolkiri1: I agree with Gloucester we should ask for page protection. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:26, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Done Feel free to support the request at WP:RPP. RGloucester — ☎ 21:31, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Explanation
I'm trying to explain it as best as i can, but unfortunately a lot is being ignored or read too quickly. i'll explain it again as "slowly" as possible. But there's very little room for me to explain it any simpler than what i'm already saying, but i'll try.
- part 1: We organize things different from other articles outside of WP:ANIME (i'm here to establish "WHY" we do that). And there is a reason for that. a universal media section benefits two situations. 1) When the focus of the article is mixed between multiple media, not just the original. For example, Tokyo Mew Mew has reception on anime and manga. School Rumble has reception AND development from both media as well. 2) The other situation is when the original media is not sufficient enough or is being overshadowed by the adaptations that the adaptation can't be split nor can the original can stand alone. Blue Submarine No. 6 is a prime example of this. But there's also Durarara!! too. Even though it has no reception section, most of the reception we will find is based on the anime or manga, not the original light novel.
- part 2' There is a third situation, but it does not benefit from a universal media section. That is when the topic of the article primary focus is the original media, and the adaptations or any other related media is either split off, or just briefly mentioned. This is where the "Release" and "Related media" benefits the articles that fit that situation.
Here's your response in Rozen Maiden's talkpage your reasoning is that the article focuses on more than just the manga. And in that situation you're right. Because the article contains reception from both anime and manga. But if hypothetically only the manga reception (and development) existed, a "Release" section would benefit that article, to highlight the main focus.
Does any of this make sense? Lucia Black (talk) 00:36, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Note
I have pinged you on the talk page prior to your revert, I have even clarified it prior to re-reverting your banner. Your suggestion to turn this to prose is contested and the banner is not to be added all willy-nilly to a Good Article when the "linked discussion" is not even about that page or topic. Please do not reinstate it again without discussing this. I will take it to edit warring if you do, because I pinged you for the discussion and you chose to avoid it to reinstate an ugly cleanup banner which can instantly fail a GA if "applicable". This is at-best a style issue and some titling discussion is not applicable, take your reason and discussion to the talk page please. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:11, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Please remove it and begin discussion, it is really sad you are going to edit war a personal opinion with a banner on a good article - I have been waiting to hear your argument since I reverted it. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:13, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- @ChrisGualtieri: Chris three editors (myself included) have agreed that cast lists would be better replaced by character lists, a discussion has been started, if you wish to continue take your views to the right place I do see a consensus though that character lists are better presented than cast lists are. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:14, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- I do not care what you call the section header, but as noted WP:FILMCAST specifically recommends Japanese animated films to use tables to display the character and the voice actors in a simple way. My concern is that you are going against WP:MOSFILM and placing a clean up banner ad despite it being the recommended display and I've already stated the reason for it twice. I ask that you please check the link, read it yourself, and remove it in accordance with BRD, the status quo and the MOS which specifically and explicitly recommends the table. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- @ChrisGualtieri: Chris three editors (myself included) have agreed that cast lists would be better replaced by character lists, a discussion has been started, if you wish to continue take your views to the right place I do see a consensus though that character lists are better presented than cast lists are. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:14, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oh you didn't see WP:FILMCAST? Okay, got up to speed? Okies, no worries. Sorry, if I irritated or angered you with the "edit warring" board threat, I thought that a bit too hasty myself. After writing it and seeing you bounced my revert, that's why I was sad you continued it. This page is much much lower in traffic and you didn't see it, no worries - all things fixable and discussable. Hmm... things moving too quick? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:49, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- @ChrisGualtieri: Yeah and sorry about that too. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:07, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm too used to the -HELP section, but I really need to remember that an hour or so on these pages really don't matter for anything. If it was on the main page or on something like the Top 100 pages, yeah, different story... maybe? I shouldn't be quick and assume you know everything and anything, heck, I don't and I've been here for some time. Anyways, thanks for linking me to the voice actor /cast discussion. I'm all for precision and readability, the "cast" is probably obsolete, but we need some more FAs to really form a decent style and format structure.... I dunno which to take to FA. I only did a lighthouse list... you have anything you are working on? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:12, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Im not working on anything right now but have mentioned that we need a new FA article for the anime/manga project, do you have any suggestions? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:30, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm too used to the -HELP section, but I really need to remember that an hour or so on these pages really don't matter for anything. If it was on the main page or on something like the Top 100 pages, yeah, different story... maybe? I shouldn't be quick and assume you know everything and anything, heck, I don't and I've been here for some time. Anyways, thanks for linking me to the voice actor /cast discussion. I'm all for precision and readability, the "cast" is probably obsolete, but we need some more FAs to really form a decent style and format structure.... I dunno which to take to FA. I only did a lighthouse list... you have anything you are working on? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:12, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- The problem is the sourcing of Japanese texts which elude most of us. Being able to read Japanese is only part of the problem. American voice actors might be the easiest to source, but few have the high quality sources or the depth of coverage needed. I have a plan to do the scholarly texts, but I doubt they can get above GA. Those like Katsudō Shashin are works are likely to be the ones I could bring up, but the problem is that most of them burned in the 1923 Great Kantō earthquake. I was wondering about some of the lost films, since all that ever can be known comes from the records we already have unless we discover something new. These articles are really easy and I've been assembling a history of some silent film and vaudeville stars. Just an interest in the early days. Same as ever. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:49, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- @ChrisGualtieri: Yeah and sorry about that too. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:07, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
what the heck did you do THAT FOR?
You know that the "Arab Winter" has been used in quite a number of places http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Analysis-Arab-Winter-is-coming-to-Baghdad-359348 and it's been used on a number of occasion to decscribe the current unpleasentness in the Middle East. So don't just destroy that page....Ericl (talk) 19:52, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Syrian Civil War topic sanctions
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war on Syrian Civil War topics. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the one-revert rule of the Syrian Civil War sanctions, which state that an editor must not perform more than one revert on a single page of Syrian Civil War topic within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time, counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the one-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the one-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. GreyShark (dibra) 20:12, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
For the record...
Removing your own comments while it was replied to makes the conversation seem odd - normally you'd just move it to a different section or strike it. I would appreciate it if you restore those comments in your section. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 23:08, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Do you really think...
...that a trans woman should be referred to as he/him for some purposes other than the following situations:
- Direct quotations must keep their original words. A trans woman must be referred to as he/him in a direct quotation if that was the quotation's original words.
- WP:VNT. This means that a person known by reliable sources to be a man but rumored without verifiability to be a trans woman must be treated like a man in Wikipedia and be referred to as he/him.
Georgia guy (talk) 01:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Georgia guy: I think if a majority of WP:RS also are saying he/him then we should go along, this is true on every other article we have, follow the WP:RS. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:21, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Have you carefully read the section of Wikipedia:Gender identity that focuses on the question "Shouldn't we wait until the new name is used more frequently in reliable sources??" Please read that question's answer, including the However sentence at the bottom. Georgia guy (talk) 01:23, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Okay then no. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Please read it carefully then. Georgia guy (talk) 01:31, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Okay then no. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Have you carefully read the section of Wikipedia:Gender identity that focuses on the question "Shouldn't we wait until the new name is used more frequently in reliable sources??" Please read that question's answer, including the However sentence at the bottom. Georgia guy (talk) 01:23, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Your note at my talk
This is an IAR situation — our policies simply aren't made for situations in which our article might put someone's life at stake. I'm in the middle of attempting to remove on-wiki mentions of this guy's name; if you wish to dispute it, you would do well to contact Arbcom (see WP:ARBCOM#Contacting the Committee) about the situation. Please don't think that I'm challenging you to some sort of arbitration case: it's just that they know what they're doing about potentially significant privacy issues, and they can discuss this kind of thing offline. If you ask them for input, please ask them to contact me; I'll happily undo myself if they ask. Of course, you should feel free to contact me offline as well. Nyttend (talk) 03:48, 4 September 2014 (UTC)