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I '''SUPPORT''' adding '''''Godzilla: King of the Monsters II''''' to the article lead. [[User:Hasell94|Hasell94]] ([[User talk:Hasell94|talk]]) 17:23, 29 April 2019 (UTC) |
I '''SUPPORT''' adding '''''Godzilla: King of the Monsters II''''' to the article lead. [[User:Hasell94|Hasell94]] ([[User talk:Hasell94|talk]]) 17:23, 29 April 2019 (UTC) |
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I also '''SUPPORT''' the title change. It's needed for consistency with other pages. Please change it.[[User:KingZerox22|KingZerox22]] ([[User talk:KingZerox22|talk]]) 17:26, 29 April 2019 (UTC) |
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Help with sources.
Can some of you help me with sources for this article? Thank you- Vincent ☺ Tristar72 (talk) 19:54, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Title
We should remove "(2019 film)" from the title because there are no other film with that exact title.Enjoyer of World (talk) 01:24, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- I agree. It must be removed. DarkFallenAngel (talk) 13:48, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- The only difference from the 1956 movie title is an "!". This title makes it clear. Alaney2k (talk) 14:15, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- There are ',' and '!'. This film use ':'. Enough difference.--Enjoyer of World (talk) 22:43, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- You can add the information "This article is about the upcoming film. For the 1956 film, see Godzilla, King of the Monsters!".--Enjoyer of World (talk) 23:07, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Alaney2k: "," and "!" is enough difference. If "This article is about the upcoming 2019 film" is there, no need to add "(2019 film)" to its title. Enjoyer of World (talk) 00:17, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
- There are ',' and '!'. This film use ':'. Enough difference.--Enjoyer of World (talk) 22:43, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- The only difference from the 1956 movie title is an "!". This title makes it clear. Alaney2k (talk) 14:15, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose. They both share the subtitle "King of the Monsters", how is that not the same? The only differences are the punctuations, which holds very little ground to distinguish the two, let alone remove the modifiers. Please read WP:ATDIS, it clearly states when a more detailed title is necessary to distinguish an article topic from another, use only as much additional detail as necessary. The "(2019 film)" part distinguishes this film from the 1956 film, henceforth it is necessary. If someone were to google "Godzilla King of the Monsters" right now, they would only find plenty of results regarding the 1956 film and very little of the upcoming 2019 film. The "(2019 film)" part helps disambiguate the two films and helps readers navigate their search results better. Armegon (talk) 03:02, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
- Wow thank you. Now I understand. Enjoyer of World (talk) 03:15, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Title move
As per an announcement via their Facebook page the film is officially titled Godzilla II: King of the Monsters in the UK: https://www.facebook.com/GodzillaMovieUK
So the lead of the article should be changed appropriately. Gistech (talk) 21:02, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- That title may be for the UK release but this is an American production and all material released by the studio so far has titled the film as Godzilla: King of the Monsters. Armegon (talk) 07:18, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- Incorrect material released by the studio in other countries and territories includes the alternate title. In order to keep with Wiki guidelines. The alternate title NEEDS to be in the lead. Every other American production Wikipage with an alternate title, has it in their leads. This page is a disgrace without it. ThatIPGuy (talk) 12:08, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
Doesn't matter if it's an American production, other American produced films are represented on Wikipedia with their alternative titles in the introductory line. It is important to keep this information immediate for international viewers who know the film by its international title. It helps redirect international audiences to the page. This is an American production viewed on an international scale, international viewers have to be accounted for here. Refusing to do so is selfish on the user's behalf, with American elitist agenda in mind. SUPPORT 2001:8003:8126:1B01:95F0:4EB:FB2F:F378 (talk) 11:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- "Refusing to do so is selfish on the user's behalf, with American elitist agenda in mind". WOW! I guess we can rule out that the anonymous user is not taking the matter seriously. WP:FILMLEAD states that the lead should only summarize key important points of the article. The international title is hardly noteworthy since its only addition is a roman numeral, not a new title altogether. The international title is already covered in the Release section with a verified source, so there's no need to add it in the lead and there is no rule requiring that the international title be added. @Alaney2k, you have contributed to this article and other MonsterVerse related articles, what's your two cents on the matter? Armegon (talk) 02:22, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Armegon is such a control freak.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:9052:B901:B857:6A07:6F8E:7F7A (talk) 11:13, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- Because I follow Wiki guidelines? Yeah, I'm the bad guy for keeping the children from treating these articles like fandom Wikias without moderation or oversight. What a crime. Armegon (talk) 13:22, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Actually if you were concerned with following Wiki guidelines, you'd add Godzilla II: King of the Monsters to the lead of the article, because every other American production Wikipedia page puts alternate titles in their leads. Be responsible and add it. I STRONGLY SUPPORT adding the alternate title to the lead. ThatIPGuy (talk) 12:06, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
@Alaney2k please add your deciding vote in this matter. ThatIPGuy (talk) 12:11, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- Puzzling. The Facebook page showed Godzilla II then seems to stop using it. Were they just trying it out? Alaney2k (talk) 13:39, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Alaney2k Here's the official page from Roadshow Films (WB's distributor in international markets) which displays the II [1] Each person who has commented on this talk page has voiced support for the alternate title to be added. Even without support written in bold, it's clearly visible that most people want the title in the article's lead to represent the movie being released internationally. Every other wikipage of an American production has the alternate title in the article's lead, however Armegon has taken extreme lengths to prevent this from happening.ThatIPGuy (talk) 17:17, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- @User talk:ThatIPGuy's opinion and vote should not be considered because the user is manipulating votes, check here. ThatIPGuy deliberately added support votes to influence consensus to his/her favor. Armegon (talk) 15:08, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Alaney2k Here's the official page from Roadshow Films (WB's distributor in international markets) which displays the II [1] Each person who has commented on this talk page has voiced support for the alternate title to be added. Even without support written in bold, it's clearly visible that most people want the title in the article's lead to represent the movie being released internationally. Every other wikipage of an American production has the alternate title in the article's lead, however Armegon has taken extreme lengths to prevent this from happening.ThatIPGuy (talk) 17:17, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
I SUPPORT adding Godzilla: King of the Monsters II to the article lead. Hasell94 (talk) 17:23, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
I also SUPPORT the title change. It's needed for consistency with other pages. Please change it.KingZerox22 (talk) 17:26, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
Music section
i dont know where you would find a source for this, other than the trailer released today, but the final trailer features the King of Monsters theme, or a modern version thereof, alongside Over The Rainbow from Wizard of Oz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFxN2oDKk0E shadzar-talk 19:48, 23 April 2019 (UTC)