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:Please, work with me, not against me. I want this to be a great map, accurate and detailing the actual situation. Since the beginning of this war, I looked at this map, and started to edit it. I wanted to contribute to the community and make the best map possible. I hope you want to do the same, and if you do, all you have to do is work with me and follow the rules. [[User:Pbfreespace3|Pbfreespace3]] ([[User talk:Pbfreespace3#top|talk]]) 23:49, 20 September 2015 (UTC) |
:Please, work with me, not against me. I want this to be a great map, accurate and detailing the actual situation. Since the beginning of this war, I looked at this map, and started to edit it. I wanted to contribute to the community and make the best map possible. I hope you want to do the same, and if you do, all you have to do is work with me and follow the rules. [[User:Pbfreespace3|Pbfreespace3]] ([[User talk:Pbfreespace3#top|talk]]) 23:49, 20 September 2015 (UTC) |
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* You have been told many times not to edit war, and decided to ignore it. |
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* You are well aware of the processes around here and decided to ignore them because you think you are right. |
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* Your behavior on my talk page has made it quite clear that you are operating under a [[WP:BATTLEGROUND]] mentality which is incompatible with Wikipedia and you are wholly unwilling to listen to polite requests to desist. |
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In all, this all comes back to an intractable [[m:MPOV|megalomaniacal point of view]] on your part in which might makes right and the ends justify the means. But that stops now, or you no longer are welcome on Wikipedia. |
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Thank you. [[User:Magog the Ogre|Magog the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Magog the Ogre|t]]<small> • </small>[[Special:Contributions/Magog the Ogre|c]]) 01:37, 1 October 2015 (UTC) |
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Sources
Please provide a source when you add villages or towns on map. According to the rules of editing we can't add to map (villages, towns, cities or military base) without provide reliable sources which can confirm such actions. I hope for your understanding. Hanibal911 (talk) 07:15, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- OK. I understand. Will a map from Institute for the Study of War (somewhat pro-Iraqi) be enough? What map should I use to justify my edits? Pbfreespace3 (talk) 01:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Userboxes
Hello! I see you are adding lots of userboxes. You may find Template:Userboxtop useful. Look at my userpage for an example. Happy editing! Happy Squirrel (talk) 03:13, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi HappySquirrel! I will try to clean up userboxes sometime within the next 48 hours. I will also try to create a few of my own. Thank you for your help! Pbfreespace3 (talk) 04:05, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Magog the Ogre (t • c) 22:09, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Yeah sorry, I forget sometimes. I'll remember to indent. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 22:32, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- Heh. I'm going to leave that response unedited for irony. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 22:34, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- LOL! I did not intend that! Hahahahaha! Pbfreespace3 (talk) 23:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Re: Some falafel for you!
Thanks! :-) --HCPUNXKID 21:53, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
June 2015
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. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 21:54, 18 June 2015 (UTC)A Barnstar for You!
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Middle East conflict map
Hi, by referring to a Middle East conflict map, i was of course referring to Template:Syrian,_Iraqi,_and_Lebanese_insurgencies_detailed_map, which i guess you are already familiar with. It is not yet a full map of the entire Middle East, but as the Arab Winter expands instability a number of editors have integrated more and more maps - beginning from Syria, later joining with Iraq and adding Lebanon a few months ago. I guess there is a consideration to add also Sinai (Egypt) in the near future and depends on developments in Saudi Arabia and Yemen (Yemen already a battle ground, and Saudia experiencing border clashes), those may too be integrated.GreyShark (dibra) 05:54, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
"Sarrin is completely surrounded based on many sources"
Can you show that sources? And I suppose that they arent Kurdish media or Twitter pro-Kurdish amateur accounts, that would be so embarrasing...--HCPUNXKID 17:34, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- HCPUNXKID, I have heard reports from pro-kurdish sources such as Chuck Pfarrer that some ISIS reinforcements have come on across the Euphrates as well is infiltrators from the south, but BaF has a pretty strong presence around the town. You can argue all day, but for the edit you made, I have multiple twitter sources:
https://twitter.com/sylezjusz/status/618473038871429120 https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/618484971347550208 https://twitter.com/Feeney4Batman/status/617671230917705728 https://twitter.com/CizireCanton/status/617653868340604928 https://twitter.com/Karybdamoid/status/617031151358586880 http://ku.hawarnews.com/ji-ypge-opersyona-paqijkirina-bajaroka-sirin/
- This list includes official YPG sources, as well as mapmakers and activists.
- Whereas all you have is one guy on twitter who made a Google Earth map claiming that ISIS actually has some villages north and east of Sarrin.
https://twitter.com/_paulo34/status/618554063853101056
- Who are we going to trust? One person, or a multitude of sources, even if they are anti-ISIS? Pbfreespace3 (talk) 17:54, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- That "multitude of sources" are:
- 1st: Sources totally pro-YPG & anti-ISIS. Do I have to remember you that u cant use a pro-Kurdish source for Kurdish gains? Hope not, what would you say if I started using Peto Lucem, Al-Masdar, etc... for SAA advances? Would you accept it? So please, lets not have double standards...
- 2nd: Its funny to hear you calling that source "one guy on twitter", what are Chuck Pfarrer or Karybdamoid but "guys on twitter"? Or perhaps now they are worldwide-known academic experts on the issue? Come on, let's be serious and again, dont have different standards depending on our own POV.
So please, bring a neutral or pro-ISIS source stating that towns are under YPG control, otherwise they should be black, or at least (as a compromise solution until we can assure who controls them) contested (black-yellow). Regards,--HCPUNXKID 00:50, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Would you consider this a neutral source? He has been used for kurdish advances in the past. He is mainly pro-rebel.
www.twitter.com/arabthomness/status/616725447175442433
- Thomas van Linge neutral? Really? Come on, the presence of the Kurdish & FSA flag dont say nothing to you? Would you consider neutral a twitter acount with the IS flag? That 18 years old kid is heavily biased, and if his maps or tweets had been used for Kurdish or FSA advances, that's a violation of the Wikipedia norms & rules we have agreed, and should be reverted. As I'm tired of having edit wars, I offer you again that good faith compromise solution, putting as contested the towns wich dont match on the maps (Kirat Kurdan, Mitras, Jabiriyah, Septe, Sabat Tahtani, Huwayjat al Alawi). Regards,--HCPUNXKID 17:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
HCPUNXKID, let's say I start a Twitter account, put up a ypg flag as my background picture, and upload my own map that I made myself claiming that most of Kobani Canton is actually still held by ISIS: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4hMuKBMHGmsaWs5Q2RCSmRjVHM/view?usp=sharing
That's my map that I made. I have a YPG flag as my account picture. Surely I am pro-YPG, right? Or at least a neutral source if I didn't have a YPG flag and didn't speak favorably of the YPG? My point is: does that make me right? How do you know what I am saying is reliable? Do you see what I am getting at? The truth is you know we aren't allowed to used maps for the Syrian wiki map, and this is no exception. What is likely is that Res Publica just guessed who held what, or relied on pro-ISIS accounts to say that ISIS actually has control over several towns and villages around Sarrin. That's exactly why his maps which he made on Google Earth cannot be used as a source. So no. No compromise. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 17:19, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- I dont get it. Are you trying to say that Res Publica (wich perhaps could be biased, but it doesnt seems so 4 what I saw in his account) aint reliable but van Linge or Chuck Pfarrer (both having a heavy well-known pro-Kurdish bias) are reliable? Dont get it personal (sorry if u feel offended), but claiming that is a very hypocrite attitude, as its you who had affirmed that maps from very unreliable pro-Kurdish source Arabthomness had been used for editing Kurdish advances, in a total violation of Wikipedia rules. You leave me no option but to bring this issue to the talk page.--HCPUNXKID 00:10, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- HCPUNXKID, I wasn't trying to say that all of my sources could be used to edit the map, I'm just saying that yours can't be used. We need to treat all of these sources with extreme skepticism, including van Linge and Pfarrer. I don't recall using their maps to make edits. Regardless, the situation at Sarrin should be kept exactly the way it is until a news agency reports a change. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 17:11, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Al-Bayarat
"The village of Al-Bayarat is located directly west of the ancient city of Palmyra; it is only 10 kilometers away from this aforementioned city inside the Homs Governorate and it currently contains no inhabitants, as most of the residents fled this area after the terrorist group took the city of Palmyra in late April of 2015".You have made a complete wrong edits were you changed 3 villages in east of Palmyra werer the source clearly says west of it,you have to fix your mistakes.46.99.57.114 (talk) 18:53, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- OK. I will revert. Please help me find this village west of Palmyra, I can't find it. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 19:05, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Palmyra
ISIS take checkpoints not near Air Base or Pumping stanion. So not need icons near this points. Saphyr66 (talk) 19:42, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
SAA retake one of checkpoint yesterday. Also now SAA advance against ISIS so you need removed black icons near Air Base and T4 Station. Saphyr66 (talk) 19:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- No, I'm pretty sure the al-Masdar source says that ISIS launched a failed assault on those bases, but nonetheless it is a pro-government source that said that ISIS attacked them and still has one checkpoint near the Tiyas base. We can't use the pro-government source to show government gains, but we can show them for losses. That's enough to warrant a siege icon, I think. If you still disagree, let the community vote on it on the Syrian Civil War Module talk page. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 19:47, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
SAA advancing around Palmyra and captured 3 area in the vicinity of Palmyra. Anti SAA source reported that SAA advance against ISIS and take some points near city.https://www.facebook.com/www.documents.sy/posts/791817537584187 Saphyr66 (talk) 19:58, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
So not need black icons near Air Base and T4 Station. ISIS only shelled this area.https://www.facebook.com/syriahroe/posts/720517131389961 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saphyr66 (talk • contribs) 20:06, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
SAA had established full control over Nazl Hayyal, al-Qadiri farm, and Thaniet al-Rajma in Palmyra’s surroundings. http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/07/08/419330/Syria-ISIL-Palmyra-Homs-Hasakah SAA advance.https://www.facebook.com/Hosein.Mortada.Press/posts/878645812204286 Saphyr66 (talk) 20:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
SAA & Hezbollah are supposed to establish a demarcation line with ISIS at the gate of Palmyra city in few days.https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/619041230060519424 SAA & Hezbollah advance near Palmyra. The gas field in Bay'yarat have been recovered. https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/619040987520761856 SAA & Hezbollah advancing from d western gate of Palmyra in ISIS land and are about 4 km from the city entrance. https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/619040679457480704 SAF reopening the road for advancing forces. https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/619041567072874496 Saphyr66 (talk) 08:00, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Syrian Army is 3.5km from Palmyra. SAA/Tiger Forces sit less than 5 kilometers from the Qassoun Mountains of Palmyra; meanwhile, to the south, the 67th Brigade sits less than 3.5 km from the last army checkpoint that leads into Palmyra. http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-is-3-5km-from-palmyra-how-did-they-do-it/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6V3r126z60 https://www.facebook.com/SyrianNewsCenter/videos/vb.742335999134054/972511969449788/?type=2& Regime troops advance near Palmyra. Syrian troops inched closer to the ISIS-held city of Palmyra. http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2015/Jul-11/306160-isis-attack-on-hassakeh-stalls-regime-troops-advance-near-palmyra.ashx I think now no ISIS forces near Air Base, T4 Station & Tiyas crossroads all ISIS fighters go to Palmyra. Saphyr66 (talk) 09:13, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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Suluk & pro-Kurdish bias
"The purpose of the contested icon is to show 2 groups of soldiers fighting over control of a town, and that there is a significant number (100+) of troops inside the city actively holding territory. Not sporadic clashes. This icon is not warranted.". So, same measure must be applied on al-Shulah or Tall Malid, otherwise its simply a blatant bias and double standard.--HCPUNXKID 15:36, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- Feel free to edit Shulah to ISIS, HCPUNXKID. And Tall Malid. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 15:44, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you for the good explanation regarding Soluk and the "contested-icon". Witch obviously I was not capable of. Rhocagil (talk) 20:51, 22 July 2015 (UTC) |
New icons
I answered your post to my talk page there. Nice to see a conscientious contributor ... the page needs it :) André437 (talk) 02:41, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
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Hama
See sources about Hama here: [1] Regime forces advanced in Sahl al-Ghab and taking control over of al-Ziyadiyyeh(Zayzoun), Zeyzoun Power Plant, Khirbat al Naqus, Mansoura, Tell Wasit, Mansoura grain silos, Marj al-Zohoor, Tell A'war and maybe Tell Hamakah. SambucaHOHOHO (talk) 07:20, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Ignoring agreed concencus and pushing POV
Listen,here,SOHR is a very reliable source and all news agencies say so,an is a neutral source,and it is not bias,and an agreement has been reached in 2012,3 years before you came here,that agrees that SOHR is a reliable source and can be used for editing,so stop breaching these agreements and ignore,because your actions has became very disruptive and these actions by you will be reported to an admin,and take the appropriate action against you.Alhanuty (talk) 14:37, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- Roger that, Alhanuty. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 17:08, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Al-Masdar is a pro-government source,it can't be used in editing.Alhanuty (talk) 20:25, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Alhanuty WHOA whoa whoa!! The creator and manager of the map disagrees with you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cities_and_towns_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War#SOHR_.26_Al-Masdar
- Masdar and SOHR can be used for pretty much all edits. If you have an issue with a particular edit, please raise it up on the talk page.
Self-revert yourself,the source i brough for naymat hills is a very reliable strategy site.Alhanuty (talk) 21:44, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Just did. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 21:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
no,you didn't,Self-revert https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Syrian_Civil_War_detailed_map&oldid=677663294,plus as what Tradedia stated,return Sha'riah and taff to rebel-held and also return Bahsa to rebel-hel,sources were provided for the edit nd were reverted by you.Alhanuty (talk) 22:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- You can go ahead and revert those if you want to. I don't care. It was part of a larger revert, and a mistake on my part. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 00:30, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Why are you reverting my every edit?
Why are reverting every edit i made , You cant take Haider sumeri as a source for pro ISF edit as i have seen you do many times Specially Regarding Ramadi and Falluja which am going to remove all your edits which you did with Haider sumeri as a source, And why did you changed Al Seniyah back to Red? Al Seniya and Al Sinai is the same village
Your Thoughts
I realized that some of the districts I added on the map are just districts, meaning not also towns. I haven't quite sorted out which, but do you think they should still be on the map? I'm thinking no, but am hesitant to delete them. --Monochrome_Monitor 11:20, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Monochrome_Monitor No they shouldn't. Only settlements should be marked. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 20:34, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Gotcha. --Monochrome_Monitor 00:25, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- I checked all the districts and now they are all also settlements (mostly city centers). This site was great.[1] --Monochrome_Monitor 19:54, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Kirkuk Map
I noted that you used this Map for editing this Template and discovred that Ar-Rashad,Heynas Airport,Al-Asfar,Al Raml,Khan al-Meleh are not the same as in the map that you used to edit.46.99.96.171 (talk) 12:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Iraq Map
Pbfreespace3 I think this mapis reliable and could help you to fix the Template.46.99.37.126 (talk) 20:45, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- OK, I have already used a similar map. The main difference here is the ISIS control of the Shingal road west of Shingal. I have no idea who controls that crossing, and from what source changed it to Peshmerga control in the first place. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 20:48, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well... I think the map has a lot of mistakes to.Editors are just editing they pro-side faction and so the map like this is not accurate!.46.99.97.2 (talk) 11:39, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Turkish Map
I think it's time to include Iraq. [2] I've been off my game updating the map by adding more districts in North Kurdistan but marking places where actual combat is occurring seems more important. I really wish we had "rural presence" locations for PKK bases in Turkey and Iraq, and indicators for oil/natural gas pipelines which are sabotaged by the PKK. --Monochrome_Monitor 13:10, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Adding villages
Can you please self revert your last 2 edits where you add villages in Abu Duhur area. Our plan is to clean the map, and before your edit, the area was perfectly fine only showing the villages which were contested around the airport and nearby, there's really no need to add more of them, the area is now fully under rebel control and far away from Gov. held area, and it's a desert basically. The size fixec and the rest is fine, but i think the situation with the villages was perfect before your edit. Thank you. DuckZz (talk) 23:52, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- DuckZz, I don't see why "cleaning up the map" is justification for removing actual settlements that are controlled by a faction. In fact, I did "clean up" the map by reducing non-important village sizes based on population and actual size, as well as removing multiple location dots that did not mark human settlement.
- Our goal here is to make the map as reliable and true-to-life as possible, and adjusting dot size based on population and geographical size is the best way to do that at the moment. I don't think any of these villages behind the front-lines of any group should be removed at all, ever. The goal of the map is to show territorial control of cities and towns in the Syrian Civil War, and we don't accomplish that by striking actual towns that exist from the map. But by removing villages that actually exist just because "Well they're behind the frontline now" is bad for 2 reasons: it makes it harder to find them if a counteroffensive occurs, and it understates the territorial control of groups. For example, removing rebel-held villages behind the front-line might make some people think "oh well they don't actually have that many towns", even when they have A LOT. Same with ISIS, government, etc. Also, we need to be as impartial as possible. I have added government towns, rebel towns, ISIS towns, and kurd towns, so I have no bias for one group that is affecting my editing.
- It just seems so counter-intuitive when we're making and upkeeping a map about towns during the Syrian civil war, and you criticize me for adding towns. That's the whole reason why we are doing this map: to show towns.
Module:Syrian Civil War detailed map
These reports said that the FSA took control of Tell Abyad after YPG withdrawal: [3], [4]. If they are reliable, plz update. Cheer. 98.112.79.59 (talk) 05:59, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- It looks like the reports mean the border gate. Even if they don't, that's not enough to change the town status. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 18:38, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
But the 2 sources did mention the town as a whole: PYD left Tell Abyad and the border gate’s control to FSA, gained control of the Syrian border town Tal Abyad. 98.112.79.59 (talk) 20:52, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- I still don't think the source is reliable enough to make the change. I think there's a good chance that a more reliable person or source would have reported this, such as PYD, YPG, Masdar, SOHR, etc. But none of them did. There was a similar rumor a few weeks back that the SAA was given control of Tell Abyad, but that was also false. Tell Abyad was actually incorporated into Kobani Canton: http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/21062015
- This somewhat contradicts your source. More importantly, I don't think the town is under Arab or Syrian National Coalition control.
- So no, I don't think there is enough reliable information
Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. SyrianObserver2015 (talk) 20:33, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hello SyrianObserver2015.
- You really need to stop making unsoruced edits. If you think my edits are unsourced, then you should write about it on the talk page and gain a consensus to revert my edits back. If you look at my edits, almost all of them use the sources al-Masdar news, which is a reliable pro-gov source, and Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which is a pro-rebel source that we are allowed to use for editing. In the case of the towns east of Homs, that edit was made using SOHR. That is a reliable source, which was backed up by Masdar maps and a pro-ISIS source. There is no reason why you should have reverted this.
- Also, look at the edits near Latakia. Leith Abou Fadel himself, editor of al-Masdar News, a supporter of the government, reported that Sooda was being bombed. Do you really think it is controlled by the government? Why would the government be bombing it then? It must be at least partially controlled by rebels. Your revert of this edit was very biased, as I used a pro-gov source that you reverted!
- I am not a supporter of ISIS, Nusra, Qaeda, or FSA, so you can stop with your partisan accusations. Calling me a jihadi fanboy or nusrat only makes you look like an idiot to all of Wikipedia, and it accomplishes nothing. You need to start sources all of your non-revert edits, and gain a consensus on the talk page for all reverts of my edits. I am fully willing to do the same.
- Please, work with me, not against me. I want this to be a great map, accurate and detailing the actual situation. Since the beginning of this war, I looked at this map, and started to edit it. I wanted to contribute to the community and make the best map possible. I hope you want to do the same, and if you do, all you have to do is work with me and follow the rules. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 23:49, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Blocked
I've blocked your account for a month. Factoring heavily into my decision:
- You have been told many times not to edit war, and decided to ignore it.
- You are well aware of the processes around here and decided to ignore them because you think you are right.
- Your behavior on my talk page has made it quite clear that you are operating under a WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality which is incompatible with Wikipedia and you are wholly unwilling to listen to polite requests to desist.
In all, this all comes back to an intractable megalomaniacal point of view on your part in which might makes right and the ends justify the means. But that stops now, or you no longer are welcome on Wikipedia.
Thank you. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 01:37, 1 October 2015 (UTC)