Hi Jim,
This relates to your message related to the deletion of the article I created around Meaningful Planet and related edits. You are correct in that I do have an interest in Meaningful Planet as it is a company I work for - apologies for not disclosing this; it is my first time actively editing Wikipedia and so am still making sense of the interface.
Though I have a potential 'conflict of interest' I deliberately wrote the article in a neutral and entirely factual tone so that it would provide value to Wikipedia users and avoid any bias or marketing content. If you feel the article does not comply with this, I would greatly appreciate any and all feedback that I would look to fully respect and incorporate? Likewise I'd happily have you assess any draft before publication.
Thanks
Nick 0 2A00:8B40:4DAE:0:E0C4:3C16:E386:6F27 (talk) 08:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies I sent this logged out ---- Catonisdonis (talk) 08:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
G11 - for Draft:Dhionis Domi
Hi,
We had an edit conflict on Draft:Dhionis Domi processing the G11 request resulting in me being the author of the current draft and the article history with attribution is not present. I was declining the G11 request because though it was spammy, it was not TNT level of spammy and fixable. I removed the all the puffery which resulted in me being marked as the draft creator as you had deleted the article while I was editing. With your agreement, I'd like to restore the article with its proper history for attribution and re-apply my edits to de-spam the draft. Thanks. -- Whpq (talk) 15:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Whpq, that's fine with me, wasn't aware, thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:15, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Democratic Fine-tuning
Democratic Finetuning is an application of moral graphs and constitutional AI. Currently only being applied by OpenAI. The idea is that if more people understand this application of moral graphs they will be able to apply it in their own projects. This is not a promotion of a product. This is the promotion of a scientific method which does not belong to one company.
comment by ∞∞∞∞∞ (talk • contribs) 11:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC) ns
- (talk page watcher) Promotion is promotion though, and it is not what this platform is for. Articles that seek to promote anything - be that an idea, a genre of music, a type of therapeutic massage, whatever - need to be rewritten, or deleted. The draft you've written does indeed look highly promotional - are you connected in some way with the Meaning Alignment Institute? Girth Summit (blether) 12:31, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Girth Summit. ∞∞∞∞∞, the key word is "promotion", which you state above you are doing, doesn't have to be a product, You can promote ideas, like communism, or democratic fine tuning. Your text was an almost completely unreferenced opinion piece with a promotional tone, not an encyclopaedia article. Also, please read conflict of interest and note that any COI must be declared, and that creating the same stuff under a different title to evade scrutiny won't end well Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:36, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have no connection with the Meaning Alignment Institute. Perhaps promote is not the right word as nothing is being sold. I am simply trying to document this application of moral graphs in the hopes that people can educate themselves on it. comment by ∞∞∞∞∞ (talk • contribs) 11:33, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not connected to the Meaning Alignment Institute, just interested in the topic comment by ∞∞∞∞∞ (talk • contribs) 11:38, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Girth Summit. ∞∞∞∞∞, the key word is "promotion", which you state above you are doing, doesn't have to be a product, You can promote ideas, like communism, or democratic fine tuning. Your text was an almost completely unreferenced opinion piece with a promotional tone, not an encyclopaedia article. Also, please read conflict of interest and note that any COI must be declared, and that creating the same stuff under a different title to evade scrutiny won't end well Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:36, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- ∞∞∞∞∞ even if you have no COI, what you posted was highly promotional, gave no indication of notability and had no references. The draft was identical except that it had three supposed references, none of which was a reputable independent third-party source. It's true that drafts have some protection, particularly with regard to references, but you can't expect a different outcome when you post the same text. Since you have no COI, I suggest that you leave this and move on, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
ImAllexx
Hey! My page on Alex Elmsie was deleted as self-written and advertising. I am not Alex Elmsie and created the page for a notable figure currently in the press (ImAllexx is hugely popular internet personality with over 2 million subscribers). I have no association. I used several references from articles but the deletion cites only YouTube was used. Thanks! Romulon5 (talk) 15:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Romulon5, I've seen this message, but I won't have time to reply until tomorrow Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. Thank you! Romulon5 (talk) 18:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. Thank you! Romulon5 (talk) 18:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Heading
Hi Jim, I created the plant page for lepidium phelbopetalum for a University assignment, I hadn't finished it and was still collecting data and editing the page. Now you've deleted it, I've lost everything I was working on. Is there any way you ca restore that please? Thanks. Jordan. Jordan Brooker (talk) 05:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Jordan Brooker, the page Lepidium phlebopetalum exists, as you know since you created it. The draft was deleted as a copyright violation, which we can't host here Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
SPI - Help!
Is it possible to check if the deleted version of Draft:Sandip Sinharay is similar to this or this version? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Jeraxmoira🐉, not enough to be sure of SP, but I've deleted both as obvious promo anyway Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:58, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Deletion of Adam Gazzaley
Hi Jim,
It seems you deleted an article - Adam Gazzaley - which I originally posted many years ago. This article was written in a neutral tone, and includes many independent citations. It is of a notable individual who is a Distinguished Professor at a major university (UCSF), which fits wikipedia criteria of notability* 1. “The person has held a distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, a named chair appointment that indicates a comparable level of achievement, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon.”, and is a national award winner 2. “The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.” (E.g, 2020 Global Gaming Citizen Honor, 2015 Society for Neuroscience – Science Educator Award). 3. “The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity.” He is noted as one of the prominent pioneers of the field of digital therapeutics, and is the inventor of the only video game approved by the FDA as a clinical treatment. All of these have independent sources cited.
Please advise me as to what changes need to made to undelete this article?
Thanks Sneakypeach (talk) 22:55, 19 June 2024 (UTC)sneakypeach
- Sneakypeach I've had another look, and it's probably not bad enough for G11, so I've restored. The main problems is that the references are mainly not WP:RS, including his own papers, YouTube and the like. Also, the claim that an article was cover story in Nature is sourced to his own article, which doesn't confirm that claim. I've removed the most inappropriate self-refs Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the consideration and restoration, Jim. It is appreciated. I did want to note that the references to research findings were not self-postings by Adam Gazzaley (e.g., blog or white paper), but were links to peer-reviewed publications by independent journals, which I thought would be the most reliable source and ground truth. But I respect that you are the expert here, and I defer to your perspective. In the future, all inclusions of research findings will include both links to descriptions by other sources, as well as the primary published articles. I am happy to work with you to make sure I am meeting the standards for Reliable sources. Sneakypeach (talk) 15:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sneakypeach, the problem is that as it stands we basically have "Bloggs did X", source: Bloggs paper about X, which doesn't help with notability, since he can't make himself notable. What we need is "Bloggs did X", source:an independent, reputable source saying he did X and why it mattered. Publications should be listed under a Publications heading without any reference Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- gotcha! very helpful. Sneakypeach (talk) 16:50, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sneakypeach, the problem is that as it stands we basically have "Bloggs did X", source: Bloggs paper about X, which doesn't help with notability, since he can't make himself notable. What we need is "Bloggs did X", source:an independent, reputable source saying he did X and why it mattered. Publications should be listed under a Publications heading without any reference Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Deleted my page - The WIT Network
Hi Jim,
I was trying to create my first article. I am reviewing how to do this as I work on the article itself. I meant to save it in draft mode, but I must have clicked something that said it was ready for review. I know it was not ready and I was just doing more research on the topic to prepare my material.
Please - are you able to restore it in draft mode so I can continue working the content until I feel it is ready? I will also take the advice to use the article wizard. I want to be a good contributor to the community and would appreciate your kind support.
Blckbelt (talk) 02:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Replied on user talk page, no refs or facts, promo, copyright violation, likely COI Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:01, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Why was my draft page deleted?
I had a draft for my company BlazeSoft. I had made some changes and then published it, but my draft was deleted by you. I’m not sure why that happened thank you. 103.72.212.52 (talk) 09:18, 21 June 2024 (UTC)