I wanted to add both Looy Simonoff and Tori Noquez as notable and important Math based magicians. Both math professors and magicians who are/were highly regarded.
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Hello and kind regards! One edit was removed by another admin, she stated that Wikipedia is not a travel page: "Unsourced; also: this isn't a tourist website, so this kind of information is misplaced on Wikipedia)". And this was my suggestion for a new chapter "Visitor information": "The Seventh Fort is a private property and it cannot be visited inside. To an official inquiry at Sepintasfortas.lt we got the following reply: "Hello, you can visit Fort outside only, it is free, any time you want."" In my opinion admins shouldn't be undemocratic and dictators, just remove something alone, it should be discussed with other admins also. I spent time to write the email to the officials of Seventh Fort Kaunas and then I thought I will share this useful information with other. Many tourists use Wikipedia for planning a trip, so do I. Sharing is caring. So I am kinda upset about this, I invested time for the edit, and then it was removed very soon.
Hey, you reverted my edits and while I understand the requirements for sources the nature of the community makes those sources hard to come by. That being said I am a first hand source on the community considering I lived there. 2601:1C2:600:8F60:697A:62B7:901D:1B1E (talk) 21:32, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
While you may have first hand knowledge, your statement does constitute a reliable source. Please read English Wikipedia's policy on original research to understand why sharing unverifiable information is disallowed. You must provide verification from reliable sources for any attestation.
You are most welcome to add the changes back in if you provide verification through citations from reliable sources. Peaceray (talk) 22:09, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Reverting my edit due to me not knowing about quora
I once edited Whig_Party_(United_States) Using knowledge from Quora before, i thought only real experts post here and it turned out it wasn't true, and i forgot to cite quora even if it was right, thank you very much Peaceray! AstrowszechwiatWKG (talk) 20:35, 29 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Dear Peaceray...thank you sooooo much for those edits. You obviously have a high degree of expertise in referencing and I am sure that the whole community appreciates that.
Hello. I would advise you not to revert further on the page Green Boots as further reverting might lead you being blocked by an administrator for violating WP:3RR. Thank you. signed,64andtim (chat) 21:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@64andtim: Thank you for letting me know. I am well aware of WP:3RR & have not been blocked yet in over 12 years of editing (see the this analysis of my editing here). I do appreciate the warning, as there have been a couple times when I inadvertently overstepped 3RR in the heat of reverting an obvious, prolific, & persistent vandal while waiting for admin action. The current disagreement is not vandalism, but rather edit warring against policy (WP:EDITCONSENSUS), so I will be opening up a discussion on the talk page. Peaceray (talk) 21:26, 3 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Seriously, why do you keep changing her DOB back to 21st Sept?? One journalist made a mistake and everyone celebrates it on the wrong day. What more accurate source do you need than her own daughter Nazia Ejaz or her own granddaughter Natasha Lakhani confirming that her actual DOB is 23rd Sept !! Why keep perpetuating the mistake that it’s on the 21st !!! I really don’t get it 2A02:6B61:1909:0:C4D9:8F5B:D7D6:B060 (talk) 18:28, 22 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I keep changing Jehan's birthday back to 21 September 1926 because no one has provided a reliable source. Nazia Ejaz & Natasha Lakhani do not fit the definition of a reliable source. If her birth date is 23 September 1926, or 23 September 1920 as another editor keeps changing it, then surely there must be more than one published source for that. They do not need to be in English, but they do need to be in a reliable source, like the site of a newspaper, journal, magazine, encyclopedia, or government source. Do the necessary! Please go read the Verifiability, not truth essay to understand why. Otherwise, other editors & I will keep changing it back to 21 September 1926 because that is what a reliable source indicates, & we have gotten no other reliable sources that indicate otherwise. Peaceray (talk) 19:19, 22 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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About this comment: I don't remember ever seeing any sanctions against someone for using a shortened form of someone else's username. Calling "User:FirstLastname" by "First" involves exactly as few policy violations as calling you "Peace" or me "What". Of course, if the person says they dislike nick names, then that's one thing, but that's for them to say, not the rest of us. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:08, 4 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@WhatamIdoing: I think you need to look at the context of the history of that talk page, particularly what was posted in the Talk:Gardnerian Wicca#Declaration of the Traditional Gardnerian Wica section. What you will not be able see is the progression of personal information that immediately came after Himagics8's comment with the edits by Biropalmistry & Editor-37921. You cannot see that because the oversight team has suppressed those edits.
At worst, it seemed that Himagics8, Biropalmistry, & Editor-37921 could have been engaging in meatpuppetry. In which case, I think my warning about WP:DOX was entirely in order, especially since Himagics8 had referred to off-site behavior in stating that Ianmckeachie Has previously uploaded Youtube Videos indicating that he is opposed to the Declaration that was released and is therefore a biased editor.
At best, referring to Ianmckeachie using the first three letters of that account name is a slippery slope concerning WP:DOX, which states Personal information includes real-life name. While I know that a "slippery slope" argument can be a logical fallacy, Himagics8's earlier comment did seem to encourage others to post more sensitive personal information.
I have been using the WWW since 1995. One of my first uses of the WWW was with Usenet newsgroups, & I have always understood that the netiquette is to use the username & not to assume something different. Likewise, in social settings, if someone introduces themselves by a certain name & certain pronouns, I find it respectful to use that name & pronouns.
It is true I did write on to Himagics8 on Talk:Gardnerian Wicca#RfC on Open Letter that I remind you to use usernames rather than alleged first names. Doing the latter violates our Wikipedia:Harassment#Posting of personal information policy. It is my interpretation that anything that points to a off-wiki identity violates this policy, at least in spirit. I think that my interpretation of that policy was useful in this instance, given the posting of personal information by Biropalmistry & Editor-37921 following Himagics8's comments about Ianmckeachie's off-site behavior. I think that my warnings were beneficial & educational, because unabated continuance of that behavior would have probably led to blocking of one or more editors.
Do I wish that Ianmckeachie had used a different account name that would have not created an opening to these problems. Well, yeah! But here we are, & we have to make the best about it.
You've told the user that this is potentially sanctionable behavior, and it's not. I get the impulse to warn someone who's making mistakes to steer clear of the whole area, but I think you went too far. Hundreds of editors have used the first name for Jimbo Wales and exactly zero of them have ever been sanctioned for it. That editor appears to trust you, and they're going to repeat what you say as the One True™ Truth for as long as they're on wiki. The "rule" you made up to keep this one at-risk (in your opinion) editor away from even the temptation to dox someone may be repeated by that editor as The Truth™ for everyone everywhere under all circumstances. I wish therefore that what you say aligned with a realistic understanding of how that policy is enforced, so that the telephone game (our primary method of teaching the rules to newcomers these days) would start with an accurate story.
(My first encounter with Usenet was in the 1980s. I would not really recommend it as a model of good manners.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:23, 5 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Perhaps I did overstep & was over broad in my interpretation of WP:DOX's Personal information includes real-life name in the wake of Dredging up their off-site opinions to repeatedly challenge their edits can be a form of harassment, ... Thank you for your perspective in this. In retrospect, I do wish I had used softer language & made the use of the account name rather than the first name more of a request than a demand, & had separated that request from the allusions to the doxing behavior that had taken place. I will add a statement to that conversation apologizing for my overstep & clarifying the policy.
I do believe in the concept of netiquette, even though some have flouted that concept soon after people started sending messages over ARPANET. Certainly WP:Etiquette seems to codify netiquette on enwiki. While I am sorry that I may have misstated policy, I do feel I did the right thing in helping to prevent further harassment of a fellow editor. Peaceray (talk) 16:44, 5 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]