- Category:Baseball players from Monterrey (talk||history|logs|links|watch) (article|XfD|restore)
This category was deleted for reasons I can't understand (and with no debate discussion at all) because dividing occupations up - particularly athletes - by populated is something normal. Request recreation. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:17, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 January 8#Category:Professional wrestlers from Monterrey nine years ago we decided (via a small but not atypical presentation) that city-level per-sport sportspeople categories were too small to be useful in this case. I've no sense for whether that rationale still applies, not being a categories specialist myself. Jclemens (talk) 14:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- For smaller cities certainly. But Monterrey is not a small city. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Again, not a category expert, but if it were re-created and populated, how many notable individuals would be covered? Jclemens (talk) 18:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Baseball-Reference lists 7 major league players born in Monterrey here, so at least that many. There might be others who are notable despite not reaching that level, but I'm not sure how to find out. Hatman31 (talk) 16:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hatman31, that's current players. There are almost certainly more former players from there. There are also other baseball sites which list beyond MLB players too, like those who played before integration of MLB in the Mexican League as well as minor leaguers and so on. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The link I posted includes both current and former MLB players. Hatman31 (he/him · talk · contribs) 21:06, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Good catch. I skimmed through it so my apologies. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Jclemens, I would say that recent Cfds held would mean this particular Cfd would not have gone through as "delete". It would have been kept. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It's a very old, poorly attended CfD, but my sense is that it would still be an WP:OVERCAT. SportingFlyer T·C 18:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @SportingFlyer, there are at least 300 "Baseball players from *city*" categories and similar number for footballers, basketball players and so on... so deleting this particular one is rather strange. In fact, I was quite surprised there WASN'T a category for a major city where baseball is a popular sport. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Question - There were two DRVs a few days ago about categories (one of which has been dealt with), and I left them alone because I don't know enough about categories to take an informed part in a CFD discussion or a review of a CFD discussion. But I can see that this has to do with a discussion that took place nine years ago. If a DRV is about an AFD discussion that took place several years ago, we usually don't review the discussion, but advise the appellant to create a draft for review, or to create a new article subject to a new AFD. Do changes to categories that were discussed several years ago come to DRV, as this one has done? If an editor recreated a category that was deleted nine years ago, would it be tagged for G4? I know that categories have their own procedures and logic. Is DRV the review for a nine-year-old category discussion, or can that be reworked by category creation and a new CFD? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Robert McClenon, I'm not fully sure myself about Cfd procedures (I'm new to myself) but I was told this was the correct way for deletion review. If this Cfd were run today, it would have had more participation and, if recent Cfds are any indication, this category would have been kept. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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