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Adrian Holliday
- Adrian Holliday (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I found no significant coverage. None of the references are secondary. SL93 (talk) 01:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Four-digit citation counts for five works, massive for communication studies, easy pass of WP:PROF#C1. Not as strong in book reviews but still seven reviews in JSTOR for three books is enough for WP:AUTHOR as well. I don't buy the argument that I've seen elsewhere that full professor in England is automatically enough for WP:PROF#C5, but it is at least also suggestive. The nomination gives no hint that the nominator has considered WP:PROF or WP:AUTHOR, and has maybe not even tried WP:BEFORE, as it speaks only to the references present in the article itself. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:12, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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Duncan Turnbull
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Can't seem to find any WP:SIGCOV on this player beyond basic coverage either from the clubs, his college, or transfer notes. It appears as though he never actually played a professional match, which might be a failure of WP:SPORTBASIC. The only thing of basic substance I found was this, which is local and behind a paywall. Anwegmann (talk) 04:27, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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Thai Square
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Delete Does not meet WP:GNG. WP:FAILN - organizations local to a city, town or country maybe added to respective article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London#Leisure_and_entertainment Wikilover3509 (talk) 7:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Note: I have fixed spacing in the headers that broke some of the links, but have no opinion or further comment at this time. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 08:02, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Lewis Hamilton
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Reasoning: Other AfDs including for the multi-list AfD against Damon Hill Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Damon Hill have established the precedent that these lists are both WP:CRUFT and fail WP:LISTN as being needless forks of existing lists, they also have no notable group or set presence within discussions as shown by a lack of these such sources in the articles. Discussion also on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Max Verstappen centres on the WP:NOTSTATS argument. Consensus exists that such lists are not notable, and on the argument for the Verstappen AfD is clearly made that such lists regardless of win number are not considered notable. This deletion request is to reflect the latest consensus. The same discussion has also been ongoing on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Formula One and Talk:Max Verstappen
When creating this deletion request, articles
- List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Michael Schumacher (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Sebastian Vettel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Alain Prost (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Ayrton Senna (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Should also be included for the same reasons. It is the second AfD request for the Senna article, the original is here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Ayrton Senna. I would appreciate if someone could create this AfD as it is important for the motorsport category and part of wider ongoing discussions (please if I am unable to can this be added to the motorsport project AfD)
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Nomination by IP: 159.242.125.170 (talk)
- I vote delete per the discussions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Damon Hill and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Max Verstappen — Iadmc♫talk 15:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Note: I have fixed this nomination to actually use {{subst:afd2}}, rather than just {{la}} on its own. No opinion or further comment at this time. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all bases on the current consensus on this subject which follows WP:CFORK and WP:LISTN.Tvx1 01:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - The main difference between these drivers and the other subjects which were deleted is that these are all three-or-more-time World Champions who should be expected to have more wins and coverage than the others. I would personally reject WP:OTHERSTUFF arguments such as those raised by the nom and above delete !voters that these drivers fall under a consensus based on the others. If these are kept, I would also support looking at taking the Verstappen list to DRV for recreation. The main difference between now the the Verstappen AfD is that he too is now a three-time World Champion. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 03:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, @159.242.125.170:, you need to tag all of the articles you wish to bundle, not just notify on the talk pages. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 04:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Will try, very hard to do multi-page AfDs properly as an unregistered user my apologies!
- I agree that Verstappen is more notable than at the time of his AfD, but the fundamental issue is that we have no way of currently defining notability. If this AfD fails, hopefully it can set that precedent, if it doesn't then we know the issue is with the format not having proven notability.
- You cite these are WP:OTHERSTUFF arguments, but I counter that I do not point to them being deleted and say that because they were deleted these should be - instead I am pointing to the logic behind them and the comments on the AfDs where many explicitly called for an AfD against these lists also. The arguments against all of these lists were made in those AfDs, hence why I have referenced them. I do believe there should be some level of consistency in how these lists exist, and if this AfD fails I will propose the creation of any articles which would logically follow (if it is three time champions, I will try and create lists for them, if it is drivers who have X number of wins, same again) but I'm not sure that these pass WP:CRUFT , WP:LISTN and WP:NOTSTATS.
- The size of the grouping doesn't mean it necessitates a list - Wikipedia doesn't need a list of the list of winners of your local egg and spoon race no matter how good Mr Eggman is as the 12 time champion. Unless we can show that these articles pass WP:LISTN - "Editors are still urged to demonstrate list notability via the grouping itself before creating stand-alone lists."
- If we could get 3 sources for each driver where a reliable third party, such as a newspaper of record or the like, was discussing their wins (be it listing the drivers' dominance across those, or be it ranking some of their wins perhaps?) than I would be willing to concede WP:LISTN .
- Also I wish to note, Draft:List_of_Formula_One_Grand_Prix_wins_by_Max_Verstappen was denied just 2 weeks before his 3rd title, so I'm not sure that has had an impact on my claimed consensus so far.
- I also remind the guidelines on WP:OTHERSTUFF do state:
- "If you reference such a past debate, and it is clearly a very similar case to the current debate, this can be a strong argument that should not be discounted because of a misconception that this section is a blanket ban on ever referencing other articles or deletion debates." 159.242.125.170 (talk) 08:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, @159.242.125.170:, you need to tag all of the articles you wish to bundle, not just notify on the talk pages. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 04:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, firstly, I am disappointed that the nominator did not follow recommend courtesy, and notify substantial contributors to these articles, as suggested (but not required) in the AfD process. Harrias (he/him) • talk 11:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies for causing your disappointment, but sadly I am not very well accustomed with the process and tried to reach out to people who had been involved in such suggestions in previous AfDs. I hope personal disappointment will not factor into this however. 159.242.125.170 (talk) 11:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- (also, Wikipedia:Please bite the newbies I hope I am tasty ) 159.242.125.170 (talk) 12:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies for causing your disappointment, but sadly I am not very well accustomed with the process and tried to reach out to people who had been involved in such suggestions in previous AfDs. I hope personal disappointment will not factor into this however. 159.242.125.170 (talk) 11:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep the wins by these drivers are extremely notable. Using Senna as an example: whenever another driver approaches and passes his total it is reported as a significant achievement in the press Formula1.com, Sky Sports for example. While these win are listed in the parent articles, that is only as part of their complete Formula 1 racing results, and does not give the level of detail of these articles. These lists allow interested readers to compare and contrast those victories. The lists meet the criteria for a Stand-alone list, given the length of the parent articles. The articles follows a similar style and structure to standalone lists such as List of international goals scored by Wayne Rooney, List of international cricket centuries by Sachin Tendulkar and List of international rugby union tries by Jonah Lomu. I'm well aware that WP:OTHERSTUFF is an argument to be avoided, but the presence of these articles demonstrates that lists such as these are common across the encyclopedia, and form part of the current 'meta'. With regards to the WP:NOTSTATS argument; that says that the encyclopedia should not have "excessive listings of unexplained statistics": indeed, I would suggest that by having these as standalone lists means that we are better able to provide the suitable context to avoid them being "unexplained statistics": many of the tables in the "Racing records" sections of drivers articles are more in contravention of that particular guideline than these articles, in my opinion. Harrias (he/him) • talk 11:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- I can see your argument for keeping Senna, but few other drivers are used in such a way. As I discussed earlier in this thread, if we can find sources for these lists to be notable as a set as you have done for Senna then that may warrant their inclusion on WP:LISTN - and I would agree that the racing record section can be overwhelming but without much intention to suggest they should be removed.
- As for the WP:OTHERSTUFF argument, I'm not sure how useful it is because for example Rooney has many independent sources referencing the goals as a set. I can't say I've seen the same for Prost, maybe not even for any driver outside of Senna. Other than the fact it is a very long list, the group of Hamilton's impressive tally is rarely talked about at which point I would compare it to creating an article of "Letters in antidisestablishmentarianism" which is impressive because the list is so long, but aside from that, is not notable. This is an extreme but still, just because other WikiProjects have done something doesn't mean Formula One should for example. It also raises the question as to what the notability criteria should be, if we are to keep these: what level of notability makes Prost worth keeping? 159.242.125.170 (talk) 12:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, ladmc and Tvx1. These all are best integrated in main articles. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom - just repeating data already presented at the home article of the driver in the career results sections. --Falcadore (talk) 15:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep all - they are all valid WP:SIZESPLITs of their respective articles, keeping said articles from being too hard to navigate and read. Merging all should also be considered by delete !voters, especially since SpacedFarmer's rationale is basically a merge !vote, not a delete !vote. But again, we're risking making these articles
too long and clunky
(per WP:NOMERGE). The LISTCRUFT essay does not apply here when these are split from their respective articles, not standalone. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 16:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: France, Germany, England, and Brazil. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 18:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep All of them are the same as the many other such articles for sports people. Category:Career achievements of sportspeople If it won't fit in their main article, then a split off article is justified. We do the same when listing the accomplishments of actors and musicians, if their awards don't all fit in their main article, you make a side article to list them. Dream Focus 22:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: These are all redundant forks of information already found at the main articles for these subjects. Let'srun (talk) 17:09, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Edward Parker (police officer)
- Edward Parker (police officer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not meet criteria of notability Welcome to Pandora (talk) 09:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Seem to be police officers all over the world with this name... I get hits from the US, Australia and elsewhere, but nothing for this person. I'm not seeing more than a one or two line biography here, unsure of the notability. Lack of sourcing isn't helpful. Oaktree b (talk) 14:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify Coverage here in the Sydney Morning Herald from 1930 including biographical information [1]. A google books search focused on "Edward Parker" and "Special Branch" does identify a number of hits ([2]). There is potential for meeting notability guidelines therefore as an WP:ATD I suggest moving to draftspace for incubation. ResonantDistortion 10:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Umpiring in the 1946–47 Ashes series
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My fourth afd in this Anglo-Australian cricket fancruft deletion drive I have taken on. We have articles on cricket umpiring, seriously? I dont believe this should exist on Wikipedia, and I also am against a merge because all that really needs to happen is a mention of this on the respective tour pages Pharaoh496 (talk) 11:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason:
- Umpiring in the 1958–59 Ashes series (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Umpiring in the 1970–71 Ashes series (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Umpiring in the 1974–75 Ashes series (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Pharaoh496 (talk) 12:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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- What policy-based reasons are there for deletion? There certainly seem to be enough independent sources to meet GNG.Nigel Ish (talk) 19:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete We'd delete an article about the Umpiring of Angel Hernandez because that simply isn't grounds for a good article outside 'he's terrible and here's why', which is what this series of articles is equivalent to. Yeah, it's packed with sources, but this isn't a proper article style at all (they read more like a retrospective episode of First Take) and belongs on a cricket-focused wiki, certainly not here. Nate • (chatter) 23:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete unnecessary WP:CFORKs that are mostly POV controversy articles, so nothing worth merging into main articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Pharaoh496, Nate and Joseph2302 sum up my feelings about such articles completely. RobinCarmody (talk) 18:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
North East Rugby League Regional Division
- North East Rugby League Regional Division (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 17:11, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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North West Counties
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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North West Men's League
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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South East Men's League
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:41, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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South West Rugby League
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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Lively Laddie
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Delete: as insufficiently notable animal. Tkaras1 (talk) 20:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - this is just a line in the Guinness Book of World Records. It is not a suitable topic for an article. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Bob Champion (with the history preserved under the redirect) per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. I added to the article a sentence about Bob Champion in his youth riding Lively Laddie.
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 11:27, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Tkaras1 (talk · contribs) and Walsh90210 (talk · contribs), would you support a redirect to Bob Champion per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion? Cunard (talk) 06:46, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- All right. Tkaras1 (talk) 12:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know why we need to mention a low-visibility jockey's childhood pet donkey at all, but YMMV. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:39, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think it complies with the due weight policy to mention the donkey in one sentence of his article to provide more information about his early life before he became a racehorse jockey. Cunard (talk) 08:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Yorkshire Men's League
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:17, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep This is one of the stronger, more notable regional leagues, and a couple of its clubs have recently made (ambitious) applications to join the professional ranks ([3], [4]). TNT is meant as a last resort and I don't think it should apply here. J Mo 101 (talk) 22:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
North East Rugby League Premier Division
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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Pennine League
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep This is historically important as it was one of the largest amateur leagues in the country during its heyday, and is one of the last surviving traditional winter leagues. There are lots of sources at the British Newspaper Archive which could be used to improve the article. J Mo 101 (talk) 21:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Midlands Rugby League Premier Division
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Midlands Rugby League Division Two
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- Delete Non-notable competition. Fails WP:GNG. J Mo 101 (talk) 12:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Midlands Rugby League Division One
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- Delete Non-notable competition. Fails WP:GNG. J Mo 101 (talk) 12:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Midlands Junior League
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London Mens League
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Disagree that this should be deleted as it is up to date with the current London Men’s League. There are other pages that should be deleted first such as London and South East men’s league or merit leagues. You are right that the Wikipedia pages for amateur Rugby League does need updating though. Camogray (talk) 15:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Someone AfDed all the merit leagues a while back and have all been redirect to Rugby League Conference. I have also AfDed "London and South East men’s league" with this one. While this is one of the very few that is upto date and in context with the wider system, it still needs references to comply with WP:GNG. Mn1548 (talk) 16:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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Hull & District League
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Open age league doesn't appear to exist anymore; only youth teams. J Mo 101 (talk) 13:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Rugby League Conference North West Division
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 20:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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East Rugby League
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Cumbria Men's League
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Cumberland League
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CMS Yorkshire league
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Yorkshire Men's League, which is effectively the successor competition to this league. J Mo 101 (talk) 21:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Barrow & District League
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Non-notable local amateur league. Fails WP:GNG. J Mo 101 (talk) 12:26, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Rugby League Conference North West Premier
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 20:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: As it is known where this league falls into the wider structure via refs on the RLC page, I would lean towards keeping the article if a few more references could be found. Will work on incorporating those refs onto this page. Mn1548 (talk) 16:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Rugby League Conference Yorkshire Premier
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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 20:34, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: As it is known where this league falls into the wider structure via refs on the RLC page, I would lean towards keeping the article if a few more references could be found. Will work on incorporating those refs onto this page. Mn1548 (talk) 16:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Yuuguu
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Delete Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:ORGSIG. The Telegraph article is about Powwownow and just mentions why they are acquiring Yuuguu. The TechCrunch articles are PR articles. Wikilover3509 (talk) 14:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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Herbert Sutcliffe's cricket career (1919–1927)
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My third big afd nomination in the Anglo-Australian fancruft forrest on here, planted in the 2000s. Its simple, this time as it is a set of articles about Herbert Sutcliffe, where exactly identical articles were successfully called for deletion here just today Pharaoh496 (talk) 18:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason:
- Herbert Sutcliffe's cricket career (1928–1932) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Herbert Sutcliffe's cricket career (1933–1939) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Pharaoh496 (talk) 18:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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InterTown Series
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Seemingly non notable competition that relys on a single source Mn1548 (talk) 17:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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Joe Dancey
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Appears to be campaign advertising for a non-notable individual. Fails WP:NPOL. Nothing in his life or career up to now indicates notability. AusLondonder (talk) 05:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment - in less than a month he will either be an MP or an also-ran, and the political notability will be entirely clear, so the timing of this AfD is puzzling. I've no view as yet on possible Olympic notability. Ingratis (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's not puzzling at all. It's normal practice on Wikipedia to not create articles for candidates for political office with no other claim to notability. AusLondonder (talk) 16:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep until after the election on 4 July, when it will be clear whether this person meets NPOL or not. There's no point at all in deleting the article and then immediately re-creating it. Common sense, surely... Ingratis (talk) 14:26, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Has notability due to his Olympic involvement. Also agree timing of this AfD is poor, as it is highly likely that he will also be an MP in 23 days which will establish the notability on the political aspect. ClevelandUpdates (talk) 11:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Being an "executive assistant to Lord Seb Coe, the chairman of the London Organising Committee for the Olympic Games" is not a free pass on notability. The one source regarding his involvement in the Olympics, a local newspaper, states "He was among the first 200 people who started organising the Games" - are all those people notable? We need significant, in-depth coverage of the role he played personally. Not seeing that at all. AusLondonder (talk) 16:41, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Gareth Frodsham
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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, an English rugby league player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found were routine transactional announcements (1, 2). Possible redirect targets include List of St Helens R.F.C. players and List of North Wales Crusaders players. JTtheOG (talk) 21:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Not enough sources. Oppose redirects on the basic that he had played for multiple clubs so will be known by different people for playing at different clubs so picking one will be arbitrary. Mn1548 (talk) 13:13, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
2023 MLB London Series
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Non notable series with no non-routine coverage that can be covered sufficiently at MLB London Series. Esolo5002 (talk) 18:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I agree that the current state of the article is not great, but
no non-routine coverage
is just an odd thing to say when WP:BEFORE is conducted. Here's CNN, a news site that doesn't often cover baseball. Here's from The Guardian. I could keep going but that seems unnecessary. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:26, 10 June 2024 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Baseball and United Kingdom. Shellwood (talk) 18:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom, although "notable" is something of a red herring. Other than the full team rosters, all of this information should be in the MLB London Series article. MLB has demonstrated that neutral-site international games are not so unique that there should be be stand-alone articles for each of them. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:38, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd argue it's about the same as the yearly world series, you have articles about it every year. This has become an annual thing as well. Oaktree b (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think this is a poor comparison; the World Series decides the MLB champion and therefore receives commensurate coverage in newspaper articles, books, and documentaries produced well after the games are played, with some books (such as [5][6][7]) being dedicated to just one World Series. While it's WP:TOOSOON to say if particular London Series will garner the same sort of coverage, we can say for certain that it doesn't exist yet, and therefore it would be more appropriate to develop a summary of each year's series in the parent article until it becomes clear that standalone articles for each year's series are warranted. Hatman31 (he/him · talk · contribs) 20:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd argue it's about the same as the yearly world series, you have articles about it every year. This has become an annual thing as well. Oaktree b (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, fails WP:NSPORTSEVENT. Hatman31 (he/him · talk · contribs) 19:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: How is this not notable, when we have pages of hits in RS in both US and UK media? What's already in the article is RS [8], [9], [10], [11], this [12] from French media, a year before the event. It's gotten sustained coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 20:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Is there sustained coverage of the 2023 series, or is the coverage this year of the 2024 London Series? Walsh90210 (talk) 20:26, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge While there is sufficient coverage and content to create separate articles for each year of the London Series, the same could probably be said of any MLB regular season series. The location of the games is the thing that is particularly notable, and that aspect can be included in MLB London Series. Since only three series have been played so far, details of each year can comfortably be merged into the parent article at present. I suppose if the series did continue for many years then the main article might become too long and detailed, so at that point we might want to remove things like line scores. --Jameboy (talk) 23:30, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge this wasn't really different from any regular season series apart from the fact the game was held internationally. Can easily be covered in the parent page. SportingFlyer T·C 06:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge but not per nom as the individual 2023 series is clearly a notable topic with lasting coverage. However merge per WP:NOPAGE as this and all other years of baseball in Europe can be sufficiently be done o the single parent page. Frank Anchor 01:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Rugby League Varsity Match
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It exists, but isn't notable. I couldn't find a suitable WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 08:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of British and Irish varsity matches if no references can be found. Mn1548 (talk) 13:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as there are references available for much of this - I have added four so far. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 14:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy keep: looks like the referencing work done since nomination is enough to justify WP:GNG. Storm machine (talk) 00:15, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Johnny Luk
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The subject does not meet general notability requirements or the notability requirements for a politician. The only coverage of the subject is by local and obscure outlets who provide run-of-the-mill coverage of him as a candidate in local elections. thena (talk) 19:01, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Agree that subject lacks required notability for an article. Williehuggies (talk)
- Williehuggies (talk) 10:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I also agree that the subject lacks required notability. A bright cold day in april (talk)
- A bright cold day in april (talk) 12:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Keep: By searching with the subject person's Chinese name 陸勤業, I found numerous sources which documented his biography outside of his political career in detail, including Wen Wei Po[13], The News Lens[14], Phoenix Television[15], BBC[16], as well as a Wen Wei Po interview about Hong Kong immigrants' endeavors in the UK[17]. The article has also presented several sources that documented his political career, such as Camden New Journal[18] and Islington Tribune[19]. Adding up both the Chinese and English sources, I think the subject person has obviously met GNG. @Williehuggies and A bright cold day in april: Please take a look at the sources and rationales I presented. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 13:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: My bad for not providing Chinese translation in my first comment, I have placed the translated versions of the five Chinese sources below:
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1.Wen Wei Po: In this UK general election, there are 9 British Chinese candidates running, including 29-year-old Conservative Party candidate Johnny Luk, who was born in Hong Kong. Luk, who is running for Parliament for the first time, recounts his experience of racial discrimination during his studies, revealing that he was once told to "go back to China." He calls on the Chinese community to speak up more, to drive improvements in the government's policies and funding for the Chinese community, and even to influence the UK's foreign relations with East Asia.
2.The News Lens: This includes 32-year-old Johnny Luk, who contested the Hampstead and Kilburn constituency in the 2019 general election.
3.Phoenix Television: Johnny Luk, 25 years old, followed his parents to immigrate to the UK when he was 10 years old. After graduating from a university in the UK, he now works at a non-profit organization, helping university graduates in the UK realize their entrepreneurial dreams.
4.BBC: "Seeing what is happening (in Hong Kong), I feel very sad," said 29-year-old Conservative Party candidate Johnny Luk. Although China is sometimes controversial, the China-UK relationship is still much better than the relationship between Russia and the UK. "I hope I can build a bridge between China and the UK, and enhance mutual understanding," said the 29-year-old Conservative Party candidate Johnny Luk.
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- In my opinion, even if the two English sources discussed below are excluded, these five sources already provided enough SIGCOV to pass WP:GNG and should be kept. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. If he's elected in the general election next month, the article can be recreated but for the time being he doesn't meet WP:POLITICIAN or WP:GNG. As to the Camden New Journal and Islington Tribune articles mentioned by others, these seem to be cut-and-paste jobs from press releases put out by his campaign, which is sadly the norm in British local newspapers. I would argue that they do not constitute significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Lincolnite (talk) 13:52, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Lincolnite: Hi Lincolnite. I have also presented five Chinese sources which documented his life not related to the elections in SIGCOV. Please review the sources I have provided, and enlighten me why you find the notability is still not demonstrated from them.
If you need help with the translations, please let me know as well.(Edit:I have provided translations above.) —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)- Delete - nothing he has done prior to or including his candidacy are notable enough to warrant an article. Half a dozen puff pieces on the same subject is not significant enough to meet the GNG significant coverage requirement. Saltywalrusprkl (talk) 15:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- He is barely mentioned in the Chinese language articles, which are all about people running for office, and aren't even specifically on him. SportingFlyer T·C 01:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @SportingFlyer: Hmm... Mind reading the two Wen Wei Po and the Phoenix Television articles again? Not sure how you came up with the conclusion that he was "barely mentioned" and was mentioned along with other candidates. Two of them aren't even related to elections at all (which were published in 2015). —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 04:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- One Wen Wei Po article is about Xi Jinping visiting England, as is the Phoenix Television article. He's mentioned, but that's clearly not significant coverage of him - it looks like he was just interviewed for an article. The other Wen Wei Po article is simply about how he's running as a candidate, which falls afoul of our policies on political candidates (just passing GNG doesn't count since almost all candidates receive some coverage.) SportingFlyer T·C 05:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @SportingFlyer: Thanks for reviewing the sources again. I respectfully beg to differ with the last part of your statement. NPOL (along with all NBLP) can be mutually exclusive from GNG. An article can pass GNG and be kept even if there are concerns about NPOL. I also want to note that I disagree with some of the delete !votes in this discussion that brought up stuffs like poll results, which have no bearing on notability. However, since multiple editors have found the Chinese sources to be run-of-the-mill, the consensus seems clear and I no longer have a strong rationale to argue that the subject person meets GNG. Therefore, I will retract my keep !vote and instead go for a Weak delete. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 06:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is true, but we consistently interpret NPOL and the GNG in such a way that people who are only notable for being political candidates are not notable unless their candidacy was notable in some way, because all candidates generally receive at least some coverage, but tend not to have lasting notability ("you can't make yourself notable.") If our subject were notable for other reasons, there'd be no reason not to keep the article. SportingFlyer T·C 15:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @SportingFlyer: Yep, what you said is exactly true. That was the reason why I tried to present sources outside of his political career in the first place, such as his early life and him being representative for an NGO, to prove that he passes GNG and despite the election not taking place, NPOL should not be a concern. Anyway, glad that we made a consensus here. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 12:55, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- @SportingFlyer: Thanks for reviewing the sources again. I respectfully beg to differ with the last part of your statement. NPOL (along with all NBLP) can be mutually exclusive from GNG. An article can pass GNG and be kept even if there are concerns about NPOL. I also want to note that I disagree with some of the delete !votes in this discussion that brought up stuffs like poll results, which have no bearing on notability. However, since multiple editors have found the Chinese sources to be run-of-the-mill, the consensus seems clear and I no longer have a strong rationale to argue that the subject person meets GNG. Therefore, I will retract my keep !vote and instead go for a Weak delete. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 06:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @SportingFlyer: Hmm... Mind reading the two Wen Wei Po and the Phoenix Television articles again? Not sure how you came up with the conclusion that he was "barely mentioned" and was mentioned along with other candidates. Two of them aren't even related to elections at all (which were published in 2015). —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 04:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - No evidence at all that it is a cut and paste article from press releases- indeed the examples cited are clearly interviews or written neutrally. Also note it makes no sense to delete an article just before a general election - this deletion request is clearly politically motivated. Editorman75 (talk) 20:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Lincolnite: Hi Lincolnite. I have also presented five Chinese sources which documented his life not related to the elections in SIGCOV. Please review the sources I have provided, and enlighten me why you find the notability is still not demonstrated from them.
- Keep - This deletion request just before the UK elections appears to be politically motivated. The person in question is the conservative candidate for the Milton Keynes Central parliamentary constituency in the July 4th 2024 UK parliamentary election. Emailani (talk) 19:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - Website already suffers with half a dozen pages for people who do not need one, and given that polling suggests that he will be unlikely to win does not really add to this article's case. Agree with everything else stated so far. Tweedle (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete an article on an unelected political candidate which reads like a CV and who is not otherwise notable. If he wins, we can restore the article. SportingFlyer T·C 19:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The timing of this deletion request seems strange, just weeks before a General Election. His page was up all the way till now, when arguably he is more significant now than before. The only poll that matters is the actual election result, so this comment also does not add to the debate. Editorman75 (talk) 20:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
— Duplicate !vote: Editorman75 (talk • contribs) has already cast a !vote above.
- Keep : He has been mentioned in multiple publications, such as this from the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67370571
- He’s also a regular writer for world federation rowing, an Olympic sport: https://worldrowing.com/2023/05/10/the-irish-powerhouse-that-is-skibbereen-rowing-club/
- I see absolutely no reason to move to delete this article, other than political motivation from rival candidates. This should be a factual and unbiased repository, regardless of potential election outcomes this is a person of note to be recorded. Editorman75 (talk) 20:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
— Duplicate !vote: Editorman75 (talk • contribs) has already cast a !vote above.
- There are several people advocating to keep this article, so I should probably expand my comment - every single source in the article is about him being a candidate, which we do not consider notable under the GNG and NPOL - local or general does not matter. The sources presented here are either election related or written by him, or he's been interviewed, including the non-English sources, which I translated. If he gets elected, he'll be eligible for an article, and I don't know why this is up for deletion now, but it's probably just because someone noticed. But this is a classic "only a candidate" article. SportingFlyer T·C 01:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The first editor suggested he was a local candidate. This is not true, he is not a candidate for the local elections - but for the General Election in 2019 and 2024[1][2]. That should heighten his notability. This was also highlighted by PR Week[3], a major publication. He was also mentioned by a range of major papers introducing the UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, including the Evening Standard[4]. In terms of other notability, he is clearly been a writer[5] for Al Jazeera, a major publication and the HuffPost[6]. RogueWanderer29 (talk) 21:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Please see WP:NPOL. Simply being a candidate for office does not confer notability. The Evening Standard is routine campaign coverage, primarily about Rishi Sunak campaigning in Buckinghamshire, and only name-checks Luk right at the end: "He was introduced at the Q&A session by Johnny Luk, the Conservative candidate for Milton Keynes Central" - that is a long way from demonstrating notability. AusLondonder (talk) 17:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- As above. The broadcast media is obliged to give equal coverage for all candidates in a constituency per British rules, and non-partisan local newspapers will also attempt this level of impartiality. Luk ran in a Labour fiefdom in 2019 and got under half the amount of votes of the winner. He's forecast to lose in 2024. [20] Also, Al Jazeera and HuffPost enlist thousands of bloggers and writers from all over the world, these people are not employees and their writings are not endorsed by the publications. More importantly, no third party is writing about Luk's notability as a writer for AJ and HP. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:20, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep WP:SIGCOV in both UK and Chinese language sources. AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 23:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment for closing admin Please be aware both RogueWanderer29 and Editorman75 have been created 20 hours ago and made zero contributions other than at this AfD. Editorman75 has also attempted to !vote three times. AusLondonder (talk) 17:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Does this in any way diminish my valid opinion? You also state in your bio that you are strongly against people pushing their political agendas. I feel that in pushing for deletion of this article that exactly what ‘thena’ hopes to achieve Editorman75 (talk) 17:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete this article is just self-promotion. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:57, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment for all these accounts saying this is politically motivated, there are completely germane reasons why this would be up for deletion now. There is higher attention on the page about the constituency if there is a new election for editors to write about. A page on someone of such a low profile would have passed by unnoticed until then. Also bear in mind that Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing, having a Wikipedia article isn't like having a website or a Twitter account, it's hardly a medium that would benefit a political candidate and highly likely to do the reverse. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:11, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Myrlin Hermes
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This subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR. I can't think of any other applicable grounds for notability for this subject. JFHJr (㊟) 21:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete I've added several refs and details to the article (while removing unsourced content). There is no significant coverage of Hermes. Her first book won a Lambda Literary Award for Bisexual Literature in 2011, but even if that's considered an important enough award for WP:ANYBIO #1, I consider that the absence of any coverage of her outweighs that. I found a few reviews of her first book in major newspapers, so an article on Careful What You Wish For could be justified. (But I'll note that the Washington Post reviewer generously concluded, "Myrlin Hermes is 23 years old, an age at which having published a book at all is a substantial accomplishment. There's plenty of time for her to turn into a real writer."[21]) Schazjmd (talk) 22:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Laurien Gardner
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Neither a redirect to Hoyt nor to Ginjer Buchanan, where neither the imprint nor this three book series appears to merit mention makes sense, so bringing this here. The books don't appear to have merited note as a series,and there's no indication this use of a pen name was. Star Mississippi 19:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:SIGCOV. Numberguy6 (talk) 02:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: I'm not convinced the subject meets the notability criteria for a Wikipedia article. Waqar💬 17:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I can't find enough WP:SIGCOV for this one. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Central 23
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Does not meet GNG or NORG. Sources are all interviews, lists of products, or do not mention Central 23. No RS found during BEFORE search. StartGrammarTime (talk) 05:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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Delete I'm not finding any significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Some of the sources in the article don't even mention the company and others barely mention it. — Iadmc♫talk 05:41, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - This is another one where on its face it appears to be notable. However, applying WP:SIRS shows that WP:ORGCRIT is not met. Examples include this and this which are in-depth, but the information is supplied by the founders so there is no real independence of the topic. The main reference that is a claim for notability is the same as the others. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Basanth Sadasivan
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Minor coverage in mediocre sources, but doesn’t appear to meet the WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. JohnInDC (talk) 23:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete There is only a little in the way of significant coverage, and it fails WP:NSUSTAINED. There was a small flurry of news within the first couple of months following his arrival in Tuvalu. Since then, he's had some exposure as a source of travel advice, including one article in which he's the sole focus, but these aren't coverage of him. Largoplazo (talk) 12:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete As per reasons above. Not every world traveler, can get a page. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per nom. Notwithstanding the fact that the article needs improving, the individual has had sufficient coverage in the media. It is also flawed that there is just one article where he is the sole focus as per [7][8] However, it also appears that the article's subject appeared on a podcast by what appears to be the official Singporese News Channel (Channel News Asia)[9]. Why this was not referenced at any stage of the article is hard to understand
- Keep. Subject has been in multiple news sources, including reputable heavyweights like Forbes, the Straits Times and CNN. The line determining what constitutes 'coverage' is a blurred one but at the end of the day his name, achievements and experiences are constantly the subject matter of multiple articles. Other world travelers with far less 'coverage' (e.g. Sal Lavallo, Jorn Bjorn Augestad) already have pages so let's try not to shift the goalposts based on our impressions of the individual page writers. — Teampkf (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep The above charade is part of a protracted witch hunt by a group of disgruntled editors (namely @JohnInDC and @Largoplazo) who are unhappy at the fact that I did not accept some of their edits on the above page. First they opted to make unexplained deletions of sections of the article without discussing them first. Next they opted to post several threatening messages on my talk page (which have since been deleted) aimed at intimidating me into submission. When they found they were getting nowhere, they are now trying to get the article deleted which is interesting considering that they were so interested in the article previously and had so many edits to make (to the point that they engaged in edit warring behavior). A history of all these interactions can be seen on the original page’s history. It is important that Wikipedia does not condone such bullying behavior that also borders on harassment. Perceived “senior editors” do not have the right to push their way around an inclusive community like Wikipedia and attempt to use their “seniority” to intimidate others into accepting their way.
- Teddybrutus (talk) 17:41, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I already warned you informally about not assuming good faith and accusing people, based on nothing, of ill motives instead of understanding and accepting the perfectly valid motives that they gave. I also pointed out that your accusations were nonsensical. But here you are again, apparently needing to stick to your unfounded and absurd witch hunt theory rather than accept there are normal procedural reasons for this. Therefore, I've posted a formal, and final, warning to your talk page. You may be close to being blocked. Largoplazo (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Milton Keynes Central". BBC.
- ^ Whocanivotefor UK General Election https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/person/71469/ UK General Election.
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(help) - ^ Owen, Jonathan. "Conservative general election comms revealed". PR Weekly.
- ^ Cecil, Nicholas. "RIshi Sunak challenged over partygate scandal fine by man whose mum died in Covid pandemic".
- ^ Luk, Johnny. https://www.aljazeera.com/author/johnny-luk.
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Nick Crofts
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. There is some coverage of his resignation as a councillor but nothing independent about his political or professional career. Reads like a CV. Orange sticker (talk) 17:13, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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Demons Bridge railway station
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Fails GNG. Of the three sources, two are trivial mentions and one does not mention the station at all. A BEFORE search does not find anything more substantial. My bold redirect to Clarence Railway was removed by the article's creator. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per WP: Consistency and per WP: Notable. As it's got coverage in quite a few books and articles. DragonofBatley (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- What books? None are cited in the article and you haven't given any examples. And there is no policy or guideline called consistency, it is a disambig page where none of the mentioned pages have anything to do with "keeping articles because other articles happen to exist". It seems like you're making up things to support retaining the article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 13:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stillington railway station about related article Stillington railway station. I'm personally of the opinion that these two articles, plus other similar ones should be considered collectively. There are some references in reliable sources. Per @Garuda3:'s comments on the other article's deletion discussion it doesn't make sense to my mind to delete this station's article and introduce inconsistency breaking adjacent article's navigation templates. └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 16:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect per nomination. The arguments above are thoroughly unconvincing, relying on made up policies and personal feelings. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 13:45, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Saltersgate Cottage railway station
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Fails GNG. Of the two sources, one does not mention the station at all. The other is a personal website (likely fails WP:RS) with a total of five sentences about the station. A BEFORE search does not find anything more substantial. My bold redirect to Stanhope and Tyne Railway was removed by the article's creator. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:57, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge pertinent information and photograph into Stanhope and Tyne Railway would be a good idea. The station itself is not notable enough for a standalone article, but the railway itself is, so that page would be a good home for this info. TH1980 (talk) 03:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP: Consistency and per WP: Notable. As it's got coverage in quite a few books and articles. DragonofBatley (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Once again, you're making up a non-existent "consistency" policy, this article cites no books, and the citations present do not give significant coverage of the station. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Stanhope and Tyne Railway per nomination. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Simpasture railway station
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Fails GNG. Of the seven sources, two are trivial mentions, four don't mention the station at all, and one (Priestley) has brief mentions of a station of similar name but many decades earlier. A BEFORE search does not find anything more substantial. My bold redirect to Clarence Railway was removed by the article's creator. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as per nomination. Sadly, this now-gone depot was only notable at a local level. TH1980 (talk) 03:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP: Consistency and per WP: Notable. As it's got coverage in quite a few books and articles. DragonofBatley (talk) 17:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Once again, you're making up a non-existent "consistency" policy, this article cites no books, and the citations present do not give significant coverage of the station. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Clarence Railway per nomination. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
James Sunter
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Don't see how this individual is notable enough for a page, both in the general sense and in the parameters for which clerics are notable. Much of the article is unreferenced, and some of the sources at the bottom are only brief mentions. One actually focuses on the son of the subject. Leonstojka (talk) 23:48, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Canon Sunter was arguably the most important incumbent of St Paul's church (now repurposed), the third, and most central, Anglican church in Adelaide. His activities were regularly reported in Adelaide newspapers, rating over 1,000 mentions on Trove, and there may be more to find, as the illustration appears to be taken from an encyclopedia or church history. Doug butler (talk) 21:04, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - With all due respect to the hard-workings of Wikipedians who insist on adherence to all the Wikipedia dictates ... there's more to it when it comes to spiritual leaders. I've done a great many Hawaii articles on spiritual leaders. The ones that impress me with their Christian walk in life, are not the ones who necessarily made the headlines when alive. It's people like Alice Kahokuoluna and Father Damien who put their own safety aside to care for the helpless leprosy patients. The ones who don't impress me are the spiritual leaders who make the news, and hobnob with legislative leaders. Not to knock Wikipedia guidelines, but people putting their own lives and welfare on the line to serve others, just doesn't seem to arise in Wikipedia guidelines. — Maile (talk) 02:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: I tend to agree with the nomination. This is a rather well-sourced biography of a religious person, but I'm not sure what the notability is... He built a school, ministered to the faithful, other routine things. I suppose it would all get reported on at the time, but it's all strictly local news reporting on what the pastor was up to that week. Oaktree b (talk) 03:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, a lot of Wikipedia is like that. That's what makes it useful. Doug butler (talk) 04:28, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- What's wrong with this source, which appears to be an extensive full-column long story on his life in a major newspaper? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Linked five times in the article. Doug butler (talk) 15:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Technical question: when the deletionists have whittled the English WP down to 1 million articles class C and above, or 2 million mid-importance or higher, how much storage space will be saved ? Doug butler (talk) 16:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Eze Harper
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Poorly sourced rugby BLP. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV; all that came up was this transactional announcement. A possible redirect target is List of Barrow Raiders players. JTtheOG (talk) 22:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - Representative footballer.Fleets (talk) 04:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Undecided Not really enough references but still something, notability if carrer is also somewhere in the middle. Mn1548 (talk) 16:54, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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Joel Wicks
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Redirect to List of London Broncos players as I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this rugby league player. JTtheOG (talk) 22:46, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - multiple season pro footballer.Fleets (talk) 04:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Undecided Not really enough references but still something, notability if carrer is also somewhere in the middle. Mn1548 (talk) 16:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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Dilly Braimoh
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No evidence of any notability. The BFI source which would have been useful returns a 404 error. The other from IMDB is unreliable. Searches reveal very little, certainly nothing that adds to notability. Fails WP:GNG Velella Velella Talk 13:48, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- This book briefly confirms that he grew up in foster care. This news article briefly says he attended Croydon College (not in the article) and did "Dilly Dines Out" (not cited in the article). Overall, I'm not finding many sources. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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Tony Curzon Price
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This subject fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO because the WP:LOTSOFSOURCES are primary, including biographies and the like by related parties. No particular claim to notability is textually clear. JFHJr (㊟) 03:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep per The Telegraph (well beyond the Wikipedia:One hundred words suggestion for SIGCOV) and because we usually set the bar a little lower for sources that we might cite. (BTW, JFHJr, it's not necessary for an article to have a "particular claim to notability". Were you thinking about Wikipedia:Credible claim of significance, which is a WP:CSD thing?) WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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Jon Molloy
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Poorly sourced rugby BLP. All I found were transactional announcements (1, 2, 3) and a routine injury update (1). There seem to be multiple redirect candidates (List of Wakefield Trinity players, List of Salford Red Devils players). JTtheOG (talk) 19:40, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep Some non-routine coverage here. I'm a bit surprised I couldn't find more for someone who made nearly 50 Super League appearances. Perhaps someone can add more using offline sources, as a lot of websites unfortunately haven't kept archives during the time period he played in. J Mo 101 (talk) 09:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Sufficiently soured in my opinion. Mn1548 (talk) 16:49, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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Elizabeth Young, Lady Kennet
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This subject fails WP:GNG because only insubstantial coverage is indicated in articles that are all topically about her spouse, or published by her own school. She fails WP:GNG today and is unlikely to garner more substantial coverage in the future due to her being so dead. JFHJr (㊟) 05:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment - I have added in reviews of two of her publications. She wrote under the name Elizabeth Young, which makes searching for discussions of her work a challenge. I suspect there is more coverage of her work, but it requires sifting through articles about similar people. DaffodilOcean (talk) 21:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - I find reviews for multiple books. I also added back some of the text that had been removed prior to the AFD nomination. While this text needs citations (and is now marked as such), it is useful to know in order to find the sources needed. DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Harry Dunn (defender)
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I'm a bit unsure about this one, as he seemed to have a rather robust career, but it was entirely at the non-league, semi-pro level. There doesn't seem to be much of any WP:SIGCOV outside of this local newspaper coverage. I'd like to see what consensus is here, as it feels like a "delete" for me, but I'm curious what others think. Anwegmann (talk) 17:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nomination. Football figures whose playing and manager career is mostly confined to small clubs do not have exact material to support WP:GNG. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 09:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of Scarborough F.C. players where he should be added. GiantSnowman 14:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I don't know, I don't think redirecting to the players article helps, seems to be an important figure for the club in the 1970s and 1980s, first as a player then as a manager. I'd prefer to keep, however if not, suggest a redirect to the club page Scarborough F.C. His name is mentioned four times on the page, twice as player of the year and twice as manager. As the content on the article is sourced, it maybe a good idea to merge some of the content. Deletion doesn't help anyone. Govvy (talk) 10:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Morgan Williams (footballer, born 2004)
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Fails WP:SIGCOV, as everything I could find is either South London local press or directly from club websites. Anwegmann (talk) 17:47, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - 5 appearances as a professional with ongoing career, there is coverage out there such as this and this, does not need deleting. GiantSnowman 14:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
5 appearances as a professional with ongoing career
Aren't we looking for WP:SIGCOV? The two sources you mention are routine coverage. Robby.is.on (talk) 08:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep per whats on the article, sources above. Cheers. Govvy (talk) 10:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – Per @GiantSnowman. Svartner (talk) 19:07, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails GNG. I couldn't find any sigcov of him. The above sources are a routine match report and a routine transfer story. The "ongoing career" argument should officially go the way of NFOOTBALL. Articles are for things that pass GNG now not at some time possibly in the future. Dougal18 (talk) 13:23, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - May not be much to the article but satisfies WP:GNG. MaskedSinger (talk) 08:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @MaskedSinger: Does it? Where is the WP:SIGCOV? Robby.is.on (talk) 08:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry Robby.is.on, I didn't know I have to answer to you WP:BADGER? MaskedSinger (talk) 09:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, of course you don't. But it's not particularly constructive to state that WP:GNG are met when so far nobody has indicated WP:SIGCOV exists. In my experience, articles often get deleted when the assertion "Satisfies WP:GNG" is not backed up. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Cool. @Robby.is.on MaskedSinger (talk) 10:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, of course you don't. But it's not particularly constructive to state that WP:GNG are met when so far nobody has indicated WP:SIGCOV exists. In my experience, articles often get deleted when the assertion "Satisfies WP:GNG" is not backed up. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @MaskedSinger: Does it? Where is the WP:SIGCOV? Robby.is.on (talk) 08:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify – The two articles linked by GiantSnowman here are routine coverage. Of the five sources in the article three are database entries, two are from AFC Wimbledon and Woking, clubs the player has played for. So far, we don't have anything close to WP:SIGCOV. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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Jason Thompson (figure skater)
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Non-notable figure skater despite one national championship win (for Great Britain). Nothing since retirement. Google search yields nothing but wikis, scoring databases, and one article mentioning that the European Championships where he finished in 25th place were held at the same rink where he trained. Big whoop. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge or redirect I deprodded this with the rationale "This should be merged or redirected, but there are several plausible targets and I don't know enough about the topic area to unilaterally decide which is best." and I stand by that comment. I oppose straight deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of figure skaters (men's singles), where he and his British title are mentioned. Geschichte (talk) 08:24, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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Dean Webb
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Doesn't meet the notability guideline. Knowledgegatherer23 (Say Hello) 21:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Note to the closing admin. I would like ask please that if by chance the consensus leans towards deletion, we look at redirecting the page to Ivor Kirchin, Basil Kirchin as he was a member of The Kirchin Band for a year, having replaced the featured singer Rory Blackwell in 1957. Webb stayed with the band for a year and I believe sang on at least two recordings. He was involved with both Ivor and Basil. This would also preserve the history. Thanks Karl Twist (talk) 06:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, there's a couple of good articles in the The British Newspaper archive. Unfortunately its pay so you can read thing. There's also this article with his picture below,
Disc, No. 67 Week ending May 16, 1959 - Page 7 THE BLACKSMITH WHO PREFERRED BEAT TO THE ANVIL CHORUS, Big break
I haven't got time to comb through the other UK music trade magazines and a lot of the earlier ones can't be word searched. So it's a case of having to go through all the content of this often faded but thankfully preserved historical music info.
I'm satisfied to call this a keep. Karl Twist (talk) 10:47, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep as has reliable newspaper coverage as referenced in the article so that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:32, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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Apoapsis Records
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article reads like an advertisement (fails WP:NOTADVERT), with an overreliance on primary sources, for a record label with only two artists signed (fails WP:INHERITORG). if any part of this article can be salvaged at all, it would work better as a part of either Vasileios Angelis or Apostolos Angelis (composer), or simply redirected to either of these two pages. Free Realist 9 (talk) 02:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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- This is a splendid merge candidate that did not need to come to AfD. I see no reason why a redlink would be a better solution. Chubbles (talk) 14:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NCORP, delete everything else crated by OrangedJuice for obvious self-promotion or public relations editing. Graywalls (talk) 20:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)- Hi everyone, I noticed the article is nominated for deletion. While this article is one of my first contributions under this username, I've been a longtime Wikipedia editor committed to following notability guidelines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability). The flagged concern regarding promotional content seems like a misunderstanding. My intent is always to provide a well-sourced and informative article about a notable or "worthy of notice" subject. Suggestions for improvement and collaboration to bring the article up to Wikipedia's standards are always welcome. Thank you all for your time and consideration. OrangedJuice (talk) 15:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Ultimately, I think what needs to happen before merging is for a referendum on the notability of the target musicians. This AfD should be tabled until that's decided. Chubbles (talk) 20:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Sam's Chicken
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From this IP editor, here:
After attempting to clean up the article (with resistance), it has instead become apparent that it's a pretty clear fail of WP:NCORP. The article currently has 3 sources: First, a primary report from a local government council about a small fine for illegal dumping of trash, shouldn't even be used, let alone establishes any kind of notability. Second, a Standard article about SCs being targeted in attacks for ethnic reasons isn't really about the company. It might belong on some kind of "Sinhalese-Tamil relations in London" article or something, but it doesn't help establish notability of the company itself. Last, a Guardian article about SC along with other fast food chicken joints being investigated for poor worker treatment/conditions. This is certainly the best, but it's not enough on its own, and it doesn't go into any real depth about SC itself. I was able to find no more sourcing beyond the above, either. TL;DR, this is a small local fast food chain, and there just isn't enough about it to warrant an article.
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- Delete I agree with the IP editor. I tried to protect this article from spam promotion, but I did not stop to consider that the available reliable sources were non-existent. Be done with it. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 23:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I initially thought the article might have a bit of notability but on a deeper analysis it is true the article is very weak and should be deleted Wiiformii (talk) 00:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Looks tasty, but GNG doesn't stand for generalized noshing guidelines. Actually mildly surprised by how little independent coverage about a place with this many locations, but if the sources don't exist, neither can the entry. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 00:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as this is clearly not notable per WP:NCORP or WP:N. OhHaiMark (talk) 02:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete for the reasons already stated of lack of notability. The article hasn't gotten any better in the eight years since it was created (compare) and is unlikely to in future, short of a radical change of circumstances for the subject. — Scott • talk 14:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per the anonymous editor's unofficial-turned-official nomination statement. I did my best to correct the issues others raised only to find that once I'd cleared the article of junk, there was barely anything left. It's frustrating because while I understand others' notability concerns, I'm skeptical that a restaurant chain with dozens of locations has little to no potential to get there. City of Silver 18:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep This is a UK fast food chain with 44 branches. Mostly in London, but as far north as Northampton, and as far south as the Isle of Wight. No one has done a proper WP:BEFORE search. There are plenty more sources out there. For example:
- 'I taste-tested KFC and Sam's and now I have a new fried chicken favourite'
- WHAT THE CLUCK! FULL EXTENT OF SAM’S CHICKEN FOOD HYGIENE RATING REVEALED
- Isle of Wight takeaway Sam's Chicken improves hygiene rating
- CHICKEN LOVERS CLUCKING HAPPY AS SAM’S CHICKEN RE-OPENS
- Bid to set up Essex's first Sam's Chicken in Southend
- SAM’S CHICKEN BRINGS FRESH TASTE TO RYDE
- Food in Herts: Five chicken shops in Hertfordshire that are 'better' than KFC
- Does Harrow have too many chicken shops?
- Kettering piri piri chicken shop plan gets green light despite nearby competitors' pleas
Hope that is enough. More available. Edwardx (talk) 18:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Agree with Edwardx and thankyou for doing that reasearch. Does enough to satisfy notability. MaskedSinger (talk) 08:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Based on the sources above. Jake Wartenberg (talk) 16:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep Some questionable (no Wiki link since local) additional sources but the County Press and The Guardian are notable. DareshMohan (talk) 07:14, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: not enough independent coverage. EncyclopediaEditorXIV (talk) 18:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
List of battles in England
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WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN WP:UNSOURCED. Follow-up to
- List of battles in Albania Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles in Albania
- List of battles in Algeria Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles in Algeria
- List of battles in Belgium Draftified
- List of battles in Croatia Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles in Croatia
- List of battles in Afghanistan Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles in Afghanistan
- List of battles in medieval India Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles in medieval India
- List of conflicts in Egypt Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of conflicts in Egypt. NLeeuw (talk) 19:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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- @Nederlandse Leeuw, I see no issues with the article, but it should have been merged not deleted. Am i getting this right. I split them because the parent article was very large, yet that lists don't have to be sourced. I would like to merge the content to List of battles by geographic location. I have no idea why my creations are getting reduced; I am current not happy with it. ToadetteEdit! 23:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, why don't you also nominate List of battles by geographic location too? ToadetteEdit! 23:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not happy about the fact that I am successively nominating articles for deletion that you just so happen to have created. I rarely look at who created it, only at what the contents are, and how valuable they might be. I've got nothing against you or your work in particular. That said, these split-offs are a cut & paste job that takes less than 5 minutes of effort each. Recycling existing content is a lot easier than writing brand new articles with proper sourcing.
- The reason why I am nominating the lists is in this manner is that I am following a step-by-step approach, building broad consensus based on easy precedents before going on to complex cases. Since actively participating in CfD and AfD from 2023, I learnt that that is the most realistic strategy to solving issues, and avoid WP:TRAINWRECKs. The second reason is that List of battles by geographic location had already been AfD'd in 2022, closing as Keep but Split: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles by geographic location. If I still want to get it deleted anyway, then overturning that consensus is going to be difficult. The split-offs provide a good opportunity to show in smaller cases why creating lists of battles by modern countries' geographical borders is not very useful, and difficult to justify when done almost completely WP:UNSOURCED. It seems to be working, as 4 split-off lists have already been deleted, and a consensus has been building that they should be deleted, especially most recently in the Croatia case.
- The new round I am going for now is Afghanistan, England, Egypt, and medieval India. You didn't create the latter two articles, so this is nothing personal. If all 4 are deleted as proposed, then perhaps I may nominate List of battles by geographic location next. But we'll see what fellow editors have to say first. Good day. NLeeuw (talk) 00:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, why don't you also nominate List of battles by geographic location too? ToadetteEdit! 23:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong keep -- This is a well-populated list, which provides better detail than is available from a category. It might be useful to purge by moving battles of the Civil War (War of the three kingdoms into a more specific list. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:37, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Update: List of battles in Afghanistan, List of battles in medieval India and List of conflicts in Egypt have just been deleted with a lot of participants and almost unanimous support. I wonder why it's so quiet here. NLeeuw (talk) 22:57, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Military history of England. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 23:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: We have two suggestions for Merging but with two different target articles.
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- delete per running consensus. Not everything British is notable, and knowing the kings of England and quoting the fights historical will only get you so far. Mangoe (talk) 21:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The consensuses in the other discussions raise the same issues found here, and given that, I don't see a compelling reason why England should be treated differently. JoelleJay (talk) 02:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Mangoe & JoelleJay above. RobinCarmody (talk) 22:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Progress Chapter Two: The March Of Progress
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No reason why this small show would be independently notable from the parent company. WP:BEFORE didn't show this event was particularly notable. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Hello, thank you for the sincere feedback. However, I believe that a proper categorization and documentation of Progress Wrestling's "Chapter" flagship events should exist. Now I understand that the early chapters might indeed be less notable than the more recent ones but I believe they should be part of the project which has to benefit from clear continuity. The presence of only some of the chapters on the mainspace would disrupt it as this continuity should be sanctioned as a book with pages. Let me know what you think. Regards! JeyReydar97 (talk) 21:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- We don't have articles on subjects that aren't notable simply because later similar articles might be notable. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:48, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Almost all of these events are also featured on WWE Network's broadcast system as VOD shoes as Progress has held business relationships with WWE. They're pretty popular on that streaming service. JeyReydar97 (talk) 22:07, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- We don't have articles on subjects that aren't notable simply because later similar articles might be notable. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:48, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: No coverage in RS, nothing found now. Was a decade ago, likely no further coverage. I don't see any sourcing we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 22:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- It has video coverage on Progress' Youtube channel. I also found written coverages from two trustworthy sites. One of them is 411Mania. They should be more than enough as references. JeyReydar97 (talk) 22:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Perhaps @JeyReydar97: could combine a couple of these early events into a larger article? Mixed martial arts does something similar for articles such as 2020 in Konfrontacja Sztuk Walki. JTtheOG (talk) 03:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment maybe, a list like List of Evolve Wrestling events is more usefull. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 08:40, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @HHH Pedrigree: Thank you; I wasn't sure wether they had done it for wrestling events too. JTtheOG (talk) 17:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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Najma Akhtar
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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC Dowrylauds (talk) 13:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: No coverage found for a musician, this appears to be a different person [22]. The sourcing used in the article now isn't enough to meet notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep in this reliable AllMusic staff written bio here it states that her second album reached No. 4 on the Billboard World Music chart and that another of her albums sold 50,000 copies in Japan. Some album reviews here, and here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 20:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
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Recommend keeping. Career cut short but a fine actor.
Neil Fitzwiliam
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No significant coverage and not enough major roles. SL93 (talk) 00:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: An article that doesnt meet WP:NACTOR. No major roles too and unverified sources. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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