This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
Gjon Kastrioti is part of the WikiProject Albania, an attempt to co-ordinate articles relating to Albania on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. If you are new to editing Wikipedia visit the welcome page so as to become familiar with the guidelines. If you would like to participate, please join the project and help with our open tasks.AlbaniaWikipedia:WikiProject AlbaniaTemplate:WikiProject AlbaniaAlbania articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Former countries, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of defunct states and territories (and their subdivisions). If you would like to participate, please join the project.Former countriesWikipedia:WikiProject Former countriesTemplate:WikiProject Former countriesformer country articles
Like many other articles, which have been extensively edited by the same group of banned editors and socks most of the article's content is an unintelligible mess of bad use of bibliography and an even worse understanding of basic historiography. The cleanup will take about a week or so.--Maleschreiber (talk) 05:41, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will explain various points for the curious reader who visits the talkpage. In this edit, I have removed the talking point that Some of Gjon's subordinates held the title of kephale (..) and some had the position of čelnik The editor(s) wrote that piece misunderstood the fact that these are different descriptions in medieval correspondence in relation to the different recipients and the corresponding titles in their language. It doesn't mean that there different people to whom others referred to as cephale/čelnik/castellan. It's a common practice throughout medieval correspondence which because of a lack of basic understanding was transferred in this manner on wikipedia.--Maleschreiber (talk) 05:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
For my edits
Gjon Kastrioti did not die in Hilandar on May 2 or 9, 1437, because he was alive on May 28 or March 28, 1438, see Jireček, Konstantin, Geschichte der Serben, Vol.: 2,1, 1371 - 1537, Gotha, 1918, p. 183: "Gjon Kastriot was still alive in March 1438: Ljubić 9, 214 and Jorga 3, 33. Two Serbian notes, however, give the date of death as Thursday, May 2 or 9, 1437 (6945): Stojanović, Zapisi 1, no. 270-271." He died some were in before July 7, 1439Ungjited (talk) 14:22, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ljubić Listine, 9, has it as: "XXVIII, mai 1438", while Jorga Notes, 3, has it as: "28 mars 1438". Probably the correct one is Jorga's, since he publishes the actual source. Ungjited (talk) 15:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]