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:::This is enough for now, I'm going to rewrite the template based on who is getting attention in authoratitive works on philosphy. --[[User:Simon D M|Simon D M]] ([[User talk:Simon D M|talk]]) 18:42, 18 January 2008 (UTC) |
:::This is enough for now, I'm going to rewrite the template based on who is getting attention in authoratitive works on philosphy. --[[User:Simon D M|Simon D M]] ([[User talk:Simon D M|talk]]) 18:42, 18 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:Interesting project idea. May be a bit specialized, but it could work. Enough articles are within its scope. I recommend test-driving it as a task force within [[WP:VAISHNAVA]] for a while and see if it has potential to remain an active WikiProject. Also, is this going to cover Krishna-centered topics only, or simply anything related to Krishna and Krishna worship (i.e. Vaishnava topics). If it's the former, then [[Dvaita]] really shouldn't be within the scope of the project, since followers of the belief ''do not'' hold a Krishna-centered theology, but rather a [[Vishnu]]/[[Narayana]]-centered theology with emphasis on the belief that all major avatars (including Krishna) are "full" avatars of Vishnu. If it's the latter, the project may be better suited as a part of [WP:VAISHNAVA]]. The project box above is nice, by the way. --<span style="border: 1px solid #00a5ff; ">[[User:Shruti14|Shruti14]]</span> <sup><i>[[User talk:Shruti14|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Shruti14|c]] [[User:Shruti14/Signatures|s]]</i></sup> 23:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::The topic is now discussed on [[Krishna/Krishna_worshipers|the board]].<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:Wikidas|Wikidās ॐ]]</span> 23:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Nisargadatta Maharaj == |
== Nisargadatta Maharaj == |
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Created the template. This can be included in the right-hand top corner of articles relating to Hindu philosophy. Babub 10:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- we already have a sidebar.--D-Boy 08:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Yogananda
I've removed Yogananda. It's going a bit far to pick him out as a notable modern Hindu philosopher. Would like to see the reliable 3rd party source that does so. --Simon D M (talk) 15:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- I've added him back. He is prominently and frequently mentioned in many books on modern Hinduism. Here are a few more academic books and articles that mention him specifically in the context of Hindu philosophy:
- Dell, David (1981). Guide to Hindu Religion, Asian Philosophies and Religions Resources Guide Series. Boston: G.K. Hall and Company.
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suggested) (help) - McDermott, Robert A. (April, 1975). "Indian Spirituality in the West: A Bibliographical Mapping". Philosophy East and West. 25 (2). The University Press of Hawaii.
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(help) - Thomas, Wendell (1930). Hinduism Invades America. The Beacon Press.
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(help), entire chapter dedicated to Yogananda.
Keep in mind that he is listed under 'Modern' on the template. Many of the others in that list are far less notable, and would likely not have references at all, though I would tend to be inclusionist in that regard. Cheers, ~ priyanath talk 23:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- No surprise that Hinduism invades America has a chapter on Yogananda, but it doesn't make him a significant philosopher. Maybe you should provide a quote from a reliable source (ie not Swami Kriyananda etc) that he is. I take your point about some of the others having little right to the position, maybe you're right. I note that none of the modern 'philosophers' listed even feature in the Hindu philosophy article. I disagree that we should be inclusionist, that's an invitation to spammers to promote their chosen guru. --Simon D M (talk) 16:49, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- I doubt that there is a reliable source with a 'list of Hindu Philosphers'. It's also likely that only a few, if any of those listed in the template, are labeled 'Hindu philosphers' by reliable academic sources. So this template will always be somewhat arbitrary. The first two references above are academic sources that include Yogananda and his work in discussions of Hindu philosophy - which likely puts him above 90% of those on the template. The third puts him on par with Swami Vivekananda and Vivekananda's influence in spreading Hindu philosophy and religion to the West. The proper place for this discussion, if you want to carry it further, would be on the WikiProject Hinduism notice board. Cheers, ~ priyanath talk 17:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Indian Philosophy: An Introduction to Hindu and Buddhist Thought By Richard King ISBN 0748609547 has no mention of Yogananda but Gandhi, Vivekananda, Aurobindo, Ramana and Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan are all mentioned. No mention of Satyananda, Prabhupada, Anandamurti, Chinmayananda, Ayya Vaikundar, Pandurang Shastri Athavale, Nitya Chaitanya Yati, Nataraja Guru or Narayana Guru.
- Encyclopedia of Indian Philosophies (1983) By Karl H. Potter ISBN 8120803086 (6483 pages) has 10,000 citations. Yogananda's ideas clearly receive little attention but there is significant attention to Gandhi, Vivekananda, Aurobindo, Ramana and Radhakrishnan. I think it's pretty clear that the list has serious omissions and what there is can be divided into serious contenders and spam. While only one of Yogananda's works is referenced at all, many of Sivananda's are, 4 of Satyananda's are, 2 of Chinmayananda's, 1 for Nitya Chaitanya Yati, 1 for Nataraja Guru. No mention for Pabhupada, Anandamurti, Ayya Vaikundar, Pandurang Shastri Athavale and Narayana Guru.
- Interesting project idea. May be a bit specialized, but it could work. Enough articles are within its scope. I recommend test-driving it as a task force within WP:VAISHNAVA for a while and see if it has potential to remain an active WikiProject. Also, is this going to cover Krishna-centered topics only, or simply anything related to Krishna and Krishna worship (i.e. Vaishnava topics). If it's the former, then Dvaita really shouldn't be within the scope of the project, since followers of the belief do not hold a Krishna-centered theology, but rather a Vishnu/Narayana-centered theology with emphasis on the belief that all major avatars (including Krishna) are "full" avatars of Vishnu. If it's the latter, the project may be better suited as a part of [WP:VAISHNAVA]]. The project box above is nice, by the way. --Shruti14 t c s 23:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Nisargadatta Maharaj
How notable is Nisargadatta Maharaj??--Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)