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Um, no we can't. There is nothing in the article that backs this up. Someone went on a speculative, personal rant about what they think God is, and this is not based in reason at all. This is not the kind of thing that belongs on Wikipedia. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.180.146.228|173.180.146.228]] ([[User talk:173.180.146.228|talk]]) 21:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Um, no we can't. There is nothing in the article that backs this up. Someone went on a speculative, personal rant about what they think God is, and this is not based in reason at all. This is not the kind of thing that belongs on Wikipedia. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.180.146.228|173.180.146.228]] ([[User talk:173.180.146.228|talk]]) 21:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Discussion at RSN about [[Robert Almeder]] == |
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There is a discussion at the reliable sources noticeboard about whether [http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_11_4_almeder.pdf an article on reincarnation] by [[Robert Almeder]], professor emeritus of philosophy at Georgia State University, is a reliable source for the article on [[Ian Stevenson]] (1918–2007). Several editors have objected to it because Almeder published it in ''[[Journal of Scientific Exploration]]'', a journal that deals with anomalies (fringe issues). Uninvolved input would be very helpful. See [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Robert_Almeder]]. Many thanks, [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</sup></small> 19:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC) |
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Relative to a discussion here, can someone who is familiar with yogic master lineages look over this article with an eye to identifying objective sources and clarifying the prose style? - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:55, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Walk ins -- how do I make a contribution to this Page knowledge?
My name is Steven Ward and I publish work under the pseudonyms strongangelstar (video, music, song) and Adventer (scripture). I also wrote a screenplay in 1999 under my name. I live in Hastings, in the UK, which is known to possess a powerful magnetic field, equivalent to the Sargasso Sea region Lyall Watson suggested.
I was investigating comet HALE BOPP, facts about it, when I came across the subject of the Heavens Gate sect (1997), and then the topic of “walk ins”. The latter was of interest to me because I had just such an experience in 1995, and indeed went onto write a Film Script about that event and did twice attempt to sell it as a screen play in Los Angeles. I had an arrangement to return there a third time, to keep a verbal arrangement to meet a Director/Producer, Peter Segal, however I was attacked and left for dead - hours after leaving images of what I saw at 10 Downing St - on the streets of my hometown before I could make those arrangements (April 1999) and broken could not return.
I cannot speak for any other individual or group, which is why I never goet involved in any, or did not take too much notice of the Heavens Gate cult as they were then reported. However at the time, e.g. the late 1990’s I was in my own mind very aware that Hale-Bopp was no mere comet but was something far more important in the Universal system of things. I knew then, and wholly believe now Hale-Bopp did come to collect Souls and also to leave here other 'Strong Souls' to assist a transformation about to occur upon the Earth plane. To put it simply their task was to assist the Souls not able to escape the Earth plane in this momentous time to survive the imminent transformations - within a a generation - due to occur.
To be quite honest with you I felt I was alone in what I had experienced; else had deep suspicions about the authenticity of some of the reports of “walk ins” as I now know them to be called. But that is not to say other people are not explaining what they know correctly. To begin with none of there experiences seemed to be as informed as my own; and although the experience I had was profound and has altered my thinking permanently I suspected my inner willing to rationalise them with religion, as others have, was the result of a life time of conditioning rather than insightful. That being said, without detailing them here, I have, and do, and am able to produce prophetic and at times proactively influential results when I focus upon events I am somehow drawn to.
Anyhow, I write this because I would like to contribute something meaningful to the “walk ins” section of wikipedia. In my case I was the central one of a v-wing i.e. a flight in the pattern of a >, consisting of seven souls who came into the Earth plane... for want of a better way of putting it. An image which better describes this is viewable on Flickr (link via youtube; see below). I was the foremost and central individual in the wing (yes my own Soul or the one that came to me?)and in a very short telepathic communication I was advised "don't worry, you are on a mission". To this day what or why this mission is I do not know. All I know is what I am honestly setting down here in this text.
I can explain to you that a Soul is an Orb, dressed with light. The pattern of the raiment is realised on the human skin (each human unique), and that each Soul has the facial features of its owner, which are inward, as like a wall socket, and delineated as like a caricature. In fact to look upon the geometry of the human face is to look upon what is a truly beautiful drawing; each souls face is unique to each individual, just as human and all faces of creatures great and small are. I would describe the facial features – all - as the geometry of God, and therefore of Life. I am also able to say the state of the Soul is the state of universal peace and knowledge and Life connection; that being contrary to the state of the “living soul”.
I too affirm that the Soul is a dark object and that within a Man it is at the core of the body; the sprite in reformation terms? The Soul is the very space within, which achieves body existence by reacting with the energy of Carbon 12, which energy is describable as Spirit; that the Soul is introduced by the Father at conception and that the Spirit is activated by the Mother at the same time as (delivered up with the first carbon particles constituent to the egg). Spirit exists in the skeleton and where the Soul resides, i.e. within the ribcage, those bones are the begirding "pile" of the reaction spoke of; sustaining the reaction during each individual’s entire living soul existence. Is this why Adamic Man - new man - was formed from a rib?
I urge you to check out my work on http://www.youtube.com/strongangelstar and follow the links there elsewhere (Adventer for example). I also give you my word I am not hoaxing you or attempting in any way top make commercial gains or similar. I am simply attempting to help wikipedia give an accurate 360-degree account of the walk in experience.
Please let me know if and how I can make a contribution … Thank You. Strongangelstar (talk) 21:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Walk ins -- how do I make a contribution to this Page knowledge?
My name is Steven Ward and I publish work under the pseudonyms strongangelstar (video, music, song) and Adventer (scripture). I also wrote a screenplay in 1999 under my name. I live in Hastings, in the UK, which is known to possess a powerful magnetic field, equivalent to the Sargasso Sea region Lyall Watson suggested.
I was investigating comet HALE BOPP, facts about it, when I came across the subject of the Heavens Gate sect (1997), and then the topic of “walk ins”. The latter was of interest to me because I had just such an experience in 1995, and indeed went onto write a Film Script about that event and did twice attempt to sell it as a screen play in Los Angeles. I had an arrangement to return there a third time, to keep a verbal arrangement to meet a Director/Producer, Peter Segal, however I was attacked and left for dead - hours after leaving images of what I saw at 10 Downing St - on the streets of my hometown before I could make those arrangements (April 1999) and broken could not return.
I cannot speak for any other individual or group, which is why I never goet involved in any, or did not take too much notice of the Heavens Gate cult as they were then reported. However at the time, e.g. the late 1990’s I was in my own mind very aware that Hale-Bopp was no mere comet but was something far more important in the Universal system of things. I knew then, and wholly believe now Hale-Bopp did come to collect Souls and also to leave here other 'Strong Souls' to assist a transformation about to occur upon the Earth plane. To put it simply their task was to assist the Souls not able to escape the Earth plane in this momentous time to survive the imminent transformations - within a a generation - due to occur.
To be quite honest with you I felt I was alone in what I had experienced; else had deep suspicions about the authenticity of some of the reports of “walk ins” as I now know them to be called. But that is not to say other people are not explaining what they know correctly. To begin with none of there experiences seemed to be as informed as my own; and although the experience I had was profound and has altered my thinking permanently I suspected my inner willing to rationalise them with religion, as others have, was the result of a life time of conditioning rather than insightful. That being said, without detailing them here, I have, and do, and am able to produce prophetic and at times proactively influential results when I focus upon events I am somehow drawn to.
Anyhow, I write this because I would like to contribute something meaningful to the “walk ins” section of wikipedia. In my case I was the central one of a v-wing i.e. a flight in the pattern of a >, consisting of seven souls who came into the Earth plane... for want of a better way of putting it. An image which better describes this is viewable on Flickr (link via youtube; see below). I was the foremost and central individual in the wing (yes my own Soul or the one that came to me?)and in a very short telepathic communication I was advised "don't worry, you are on a mission". To this day what or why this mission is I do not know. All I know is what I am honestly setting down here in this text.
I can explain to you that a Soul is an Orb, dressed with light. The pattern of the raiment is realised on the human skin (each human unique), and that each Soul has the facial features of its owner, which are inward, as like a wall socket, and delineated as like a caricature. In fact to look upon the geometry of the human face is to look upon what is a truly beautiful drawing; each souls face is unique to each individual, just as human and all faces of creatures great and small are. I would describe the facial features – all - as the geometry of God, and therefore of Life. I am also able to say the state of the Soul is the state of universal peace and knowledge and Life connection; that being contrary to the state of the “living soul”.
I too affirm that the Soul is a dark object and that within a Man it is at the core of the body; the sprite in reformation terms? The Soul is the very space within, which achieves body existence by reacting with the energy of Carbon 12, which energy is describable as Spirit; that the Soul is introduced by the Father at conception and that the Spirit is activated by the Mother at the same time as (delivered up with the first carbon particles constituent to the egg). Spirit exists in the skeleton and where the Soul resides, i.e. within the ribcage, those bones are the begirding "pile" of the reaction spoke of; sustaining the reaction during each individual’s entire living soul existence. Is this why Adamic Man - new man - was formed from a rib?
I urge you to check out my work on http://www.youtube.com/strongangelstar and follow the links there elsewhere (Adventer for example). I also give you my word I am not hoaxing you or attempting in any way top make commercial gains or similar. I am simply attempting to help wikipedia give an accurate 360-degree account of the walk in experience.
Please let me know if and how I can make a contribution … Thank You. Strongangelstar (talk) 21:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Proposed MOS for Religion
There is now a proposed general Manual of Style for Religion and other articles relating to ethoses or belief systems at Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/Manual of style. Any input would be welcome. I personally believe at least one of the reasons why many articles in this field have been as contentious as they have been is because of lack of such guidelines, and would very much welcome any input from others to help come up with some generally acceptable solutions to some of these problems. John Carter (talk) 22:05, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Negative theology
This is what the article says:
"What we can safely say is that it cannot be proven empirically or otherwise that God is existent, therefore God is not non-existent."
This is a contradictory statement. Let me simplify it:
"It cannot be proven by any means that God is existent. Therefore, God exists."
This is exactly what the article says, and it makes absolutely no sense.
A few sentences later, another absurdity pops up:
"However we can safely say that God is not ignorant."
Um, no we can't. There is nothing in the article that backs this up. Someone went on a speculative, personal rant about what they think God is, and this is not based in reason at all. This is not the kind of thing that belongs on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.146.228 (talk) 21:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion at RSN about Robert Almeder
There is a discussion at the reliable sources noticeboard about whether an article on reincarnation by Robert Almeder, professor emeritus of philosophy at Georgia State University, is a reliable source for the article on Ian Stevenson (1918–2007). Several editors have objected to it because Almeder published it in Journal of Scientific Exploration, a journal that deals with anomalies (fringe issues). Uninvolved input would be very helpful. See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Robert_Almeder. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 19:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)