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@MBlaze Lighning Please also refrain from starting investigations without any evidence or proof especially against beginner/new wikipedia users. It would be nice if you could help them to be a constuctive and integrated part of the wiki community instead of harassing/bullying them. This allegation of your is no different than the one you made recently against SheriffIsInTown which you were later forced to apologize for, it would be much more considerate of you to next time take such issues directly with the editors themselves. [[User:DelusionMBT|DelusionMBT]] ([[User talk:DelusionMBT|talk]]) 19:56, 27 March 2016 (UTC) |
@MBlaze Lighning Please also refrain from starting investigations without any evidence or proof especially against beginner/new wikipedia users. It would be nice if you could help them to be a constuctive and integrated part of the wiki community instead of harassing/bullying them. This allegation of your is no different than the one you made recently against SheriffIsInTown which you were later forced to apologize for, it would be much more considerate of you to next time take such issues directly with the editors themselves. [[User:DelusionMBT|DelusionMBT]] ([[User talk:DelusionMBT|talk]]) 19:56, 27 March 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''': This request should be declined due to poor evidence. The requestor claimed that [[User:DelusionMBT|DelusionMBT]] is able to add references from his first edit thus he is not a new user. I would like to point out that being a previous user for any reason could not be a reason to start an investigation as a person can be an IP editor for 30 years and then decide to start editing under a username or there could be many valid reasons for learning how to add references. Actually ref tags are displayed at the bottom of editing window to make easier for editors to add them so not a valid reason to blame someone for sock-puppeting.The other evidences provided by requestor are rather lame as well. TalhaZubairButt asked my help on [[Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War]] article which I declined citing [[WP:CANVASS]] but DelusionMBT asked my help regarding some content on [[Husain Haqqani]] which according to my investigation TalhaZubairButt never edited. DelusionMBT reached Kautilya3 from Husain Haqqani as well since Kautilya has been a major contributor to that page while It seems DelusionMBT picked up trace of TripWire from my talk page since there was a message by TripWire there so it seems like that we three editors (myself, Kautilya3 and TripWire) have crossed paths with TalhaZubairButt and DelusionMBT from different pages. It's important to decline this request and discourage the requestor from filing requests with little to no evidence. Entertaining this request would encourage the requestor to file such requests in future and waste CheckUsers time which already have such a backlog and less resources to entertain these requests. [[User:SheriffIsInTown|'''<font color="blue">Sh</font><font color="red">eri</font><font color="blue">ff</font>''']] | [[User talk:SheriffIsInTown|'''<font color="black">☎ 911</font>''']] | 23:36, 27 March 2016 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''': This request should be declined due to poor evidence. The requestor claimed that [[User:DelusionMBT|DelusionMBT]] is able to add references from his first edit thus he is not a new user. I would like to point out that being a previous user for any reason could not be a reason to start an investigation as a person can be an IP editor for 30 years and then decide to start editing under a username or there could be many valid reasons for learning how to add references. Actually ref tags are displayed at the bottom of editing window to make easier for editors to add them so not a valid reason to blame someone for sock-puppeting.The other evidences provided by requestor are rather lame as well. TalhaZubairButt asked my help on [[Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War]] article which I declined citing [[WP:CANVASS]] but DelusionMBT asked my help regarding some content on [[Husain Haqqani]] which according to my investigation TalhaZubairButt never edited. DelusionMBT reached Kautilya3 from Husain Haqqani as well since Kautilya has been a major contributor to that page while It seems DelusionMBT picked up trace of TripWire from my talk page since there was a message by TripWire there so it seems like that we three editors (myself, Kautilya3 and TripWire) have crossed paths with TalhaZubairButt and DelusionMBT from different pages. It's important to decline this request and discourage the requestor from filing requests with little to no evidence. Entertaining this request would encourage the requestor to file such requests in future and waste CheckUsers time which already have such a backlog and less resources to entertain these requests. [[User:SheriffIsInTown|'''<font color="blue">Sh</font><font color="red">eri</font><font color="blue">ff</font>''']] | [[User talk:SheriffIsInTown|'''<font color="black">☎ 911</font>''']] | 23:36, 27 March 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''Frivolous use of CU is being requested''' I do not see any evidence of socking here. All I see is that one user is agreeing with another, which is quite common in these high view pages. For example, Me, Sheriff and a lot of other users have made similar edits as are being presented as evidence of socking, this does not mean that we are socks. This merely points to the fact that we share a similar view of the article in general. Therefore this is just a request to "go fishing". Deny as per {insert any number of policies here}. [[User:FreeatlastChitchat|FreeatlastChitchat]] ([[User talk:FreeatlastChitchat|talk]]) 06:36, 28 March 2016 (UTC) |
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DelusionMBT seems to me an apparent sock of TalhaZubairButt. DelusionMBT Account was created on 25 March 2016 right after a day when TalhaZubairButt was subjected to ARBIPA sanctions that "he will not make more than one revert every 24 hours to a page within the India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan topic area for a period of 1 month. He has only made some 16 edits so far and most of them on Talk Pages of same users to whom TalhaZubairButt used to contact. He can add refrence in an article from his very first edit The user in no way, a new account. Out of those 16 edits he had made so far, He has mainly edited Talk pages of User:SheriffIsInTown, User:TripWire and Kautilya3 can be seen here. Some more evidences given below:
TalhaZubairButt contacted users like sherrif in recent past asking them to intervene on those article covered by ARBIPA where he was reverted, can be seen here and in the same tone, same way DelusionMBT also asked Sherrif to intervene against particular users like me to whom he had disputes on ARBIPA covered articles. He also contacted other pakistani users to whom TalhaZubairButt has recieved support on talk pages on Indo-Pak related articles in recent past can be seen here. Admin/Check Users please note the behavior evidence in this case. MBlaze Lightning -talk! 18:51, 27 March 2016 (UTC) MBlaze Lightning -talk! 18:51, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
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I have no connection what so ever with YalhaZubairButt whoever he may be. I hope the poor guy knows that you have started this investigation against him. Though I still stick with my viewpoint that MBlaze Lightning being a POV pusher should be banned from the Wikipedia or atleast should be warned for his POV pushing not to mention bullying harrasing new wikipedia users/editors. All I can say is shame on MBlaze Lightning, I am all set for investigation though if no relation is proved between me and TalhaZubairButt (who ever he may be) then it would surely prove one thing that MBlaze Lightening is a bigot and surely deserves to be banned.DelusionMBT (talk) 19:32, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- Please refrain from making personal attacks. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. And you do not need to worry, Leave it to check user. MBlaze Lightning -talk! 19:36, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- @DelusionMBT: Please do not make personal attacks on other users. The question of socking will be handled by a CU shortly. GABHello! 19:48, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
@MBlaze Lighning Please also refrain from starting investigations without any evidence or proof especially against beginner/new wikipedia users. It would be nice if you could help them to be a constuctive and integrated part of the wiki community instead of harassing/bullying them. This allegation of your is no different than the one you made recently against SheriffIsInTown which you were later forced to apologize for, it would be much more considerate of you to next time take such issues directly with the editors themselves. DelusionMBT (talk) 19:56, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: This request should be declined due to poor evidence. The requestor claimed that DelusionMBT is able to add references from his first edit thus he is not a new user. I would like to point out that being a previous user for any reason could not be a reason to start an investigation as a person can be an IP editor for 30 years and then decide to start editing under a username or there could be many valid reasons for learning how to add references. Actually ref tags are displayed at the bottom of editing window to make easier for editors to add them so not a valid reason to blame someone for sock-puppeting.The other evidences provided by requestor are rather lame as well. TalhaZubairButt asked my help on Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War article which I declined citing WP:CANVASS but DelusionMBT asked my help regarding some content on Husain Haqqani which according to my investigation TalhaZubairButt never edited. DelusionMBT reached Kautilya3 from Husain Haqqani as well since Kautilya has been a major contributor to that page while It seems DelusionMBT picked up trace of TripWire from my talk page since there was a message by TripWire there so it seems like that we three editors (myself, Kautilya3 and TripWire) have crossed paths with TalhaZubairButt and DelusionMBT from different pages. It's important to decline this request and discourage the requestor from filing requests with little to no evidence. Entertaining this request would encourage the requestor to file such requests in future and waste CheckUsers time which already have such a backlog and less resources to entertain these requests. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 23:36, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- Frivolous use of CU is being requested I do not see any evidence of socking here. All I see is that one user is agreeing with another, which is quite common in these high view pages. For example, Me, Sheriff and a lot of other users have made similar edits as are being presented as evidence of socking, this does not mean that we are socks. This merely points to the fact that we share a similar view of the article in general. Therefore this is just a request to "go fishing". Deny as per {insert any number of policies here}. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 06:36, 28 March 2016 (UTC)