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=====<big>19 January 2014</big>===== |
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{{SPI case status|close}} |
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;Suspected sockpuppets |
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* {{checkuser|1=No more scary monsters}} |
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* {{checkip|1=192.69.217.195}} |
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*[http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Tumbleman User compare report] <small>''Auto-generated every hour.''</small> |
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*[http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility] |
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* Despite the finding by five admins that Tumbleman was [[WP:NOTHERE]],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&oldid=577569220#Result_concerning_Tumbleman] and despite that Tumbleman was caught red-handed for sockpuppetry, Tumbleman thinks he was "harassed" and "bullied" off Wikipedia. After his block, Tumbleman has pushed this idea through his sockpuppets.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Tumbleman/Archive] |
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* With his last sockpuppet that was blocked, Tumbleman was promoting this idea through his new website.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_Wikipedia&diff=prev&oldid=588693164][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Tumbleman&diff=prev&oldid=588839372] |
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* Four days after the last sockpuppet was blocked,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AHalfman+halfthing][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/No_more_scary_monsters] the "No more scary monsters" account was created to promote the same website.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz&diff=prev&oldid=589446492] |
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* The name "No more scary monsters" suggests a continuation of the last sockpuppet blocked, named "Halfman halfthing". |
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* The day before the "No more scary monsters" account was created, a highly disruptive IP 192.69.217.195 in exactly the same geolocation as Tumbleman was warring on [[Terence McKenna]], violating 3RR.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive232#User:192.69.217.195_reported_by_User:Vzaak_.28Result:_Semi.29] Tumbleman's ''raison d'être'' was the [[Rupert Sheldrake]] article; Sheldrake wrote several books with McKenna. |
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* 192.69.217.195 has a vendetta against me, attacking me by name while linking to the original blog post that put forth the conspiracy theories about the Sheldrake article.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Terence_mckenna&oldid=589278932][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Terence_McKenna&diff=prev&oldid=589280531] (Backstory is [http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115533/rupert-sheldrake-fools-bbc-deepak-chopra here].) The website that Tumbleman has been promoting through his sock puppets is an extensive (but silly) attack piece on me. |
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* In the first Tumbleman SPI, I described Tumbleman as an antisocial individual on the Internet.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Tumbleman&diff=577336901&oldid=577309046#Comments_by_other_users] He has focused on this characterization here[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tumbleman&diff=prev&oldid=577378667#Tumbleman_is_being_accused.2C_and_I_wont_use_the_.27L.27_word.2C_in_a_manner_which_he_cannot_defend_himself] and has given great attention to it on his website that "No more scary monsters" and "Halfman halfthing" have been promoting. 192.69.217.195 calls me the same term, "anti-social".[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Terence_mckenna&oldid=589278932][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Terence_McKenna&diff=prev&oldid=589280531] |
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* These accounts are [[WP:DUCK]]s. Though "No more scary monsters" has since been inactive, considering Tumbleman's off-site proclamations to continue sockpuppeting, the disruptions from the above IP, and Tumbleman's previous use of sleepers, a checkuser for sleepers should be done. |
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--[[User talk:Vzaak|vzaak]] 15:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC) [[User talk:Vzaak|vzaak]] 15:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC) |
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======<span style="font-size:150%">Comments by other users</span>====== |
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<small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending yourself against claims|Defending yourself against claims]].''</small> |
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* {{user|Vzaak}} - my thoughts were that this was likely {{user|Craig Weiler}} who previously posted a similar message to {{user|Liz}}, an admin who has somewhat idiosyncratic views on the application [[WP:FRINGE]] to articles, and presumably thought of as an ally by the select group of pro-Sheldrake and anti-Wikipedia editors. No long-term disruptiveness as far as I can tell anyway. [[User:Barney the barney barney|Barney the barney barney]] ([[User talk:Barney the barney barney|talk]]) 16:07, 19 January 2014 (UTC) |
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:::Liz is not an admin. [[User:Cardamon|Cardamon]] ([[User talk:Cardamon|talk]]) 10:11, 24 January 2014 (UTC) |
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**Barney, Tumbleman had a much closer relationship to Liz, who advised, supported, and encouraged him. Also, Weiler has no known socks, while Tumbleman has had many socks and has forthrightly stated his determination to continue socking. [[User talk:Vzaak|vzaak]] 16:22, 19 January 2014 (UTC) |
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***the sleeper check is important. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 16:32, 19 January 2014 (UTC) |
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* Question: Does the checkuser tool only compare against the original Tumbleman account, or does it also check the subsequent sockpuppets? Reaper has said that Tumbleman is adept at hiding other accounts.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Reaper_Eternal&diff=583278718&oldid=583242857] [[User talk:Vzaak|vzaak]] 19:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC) |
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======<span style="font-size:150%">Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</span>====== |
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*{{Endorse}} - for confirm and the usual LTA stuff. '''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 09:21, 26 January 2014 (UTC) |
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*No more scary monsters is a {{confirmed}} match to {{user|Halfman halfthing}}. {{nc}}. —[[User:DoRD|DoRD]] ([[User talk:DoRD|talk]]) 17:03, 27 January 2014 (UTC) |
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*Confirmed sock blocked indef and tagged, IP is stale. Closing now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten|talk]]) 19:25, 27 January 2014 (UTC) |
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