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*Blocked and tagged. {{clerk request}} This case should be merged into [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Atlantic12]].--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 02:12, 27 July 2017 (UTC) |
*Blocked and tagged. {{clerk request}} This case should be merged into [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Atlantic12]].--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 02:12, 27 July 2017 (UTC) |
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*{{Done}}. [[User:GeneralizationsAreBad|GAB]]<sup>[[User talk:GeneralizationsAreBad|gab]]</sup> 02:50, 27 July 2017 (UTC) |
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Atlantic12
- Atlantic12 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Populated account categories: confirmed
26 July 2017
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
Suspected sockpuppets
- Newcomer1 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- DirectAttrition (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- BulkData (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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People's Mujahedin of Iran has been one of the biggest sock farms in recent memory, with eight (8) socks working together to censor negative information about the group being exposed and checkuser blocked following an SPI filed by yours truly last January. Anyone responding to this request would benefit from reviewing that case. Interestingly, while I had assumed that all of the accounts were being operated by Atlantic12, it turned out that there were two technically unrelated (but still clearly coordinated) groups of socks—one operated by Atlantic12 and another operated by Newcomer1. For the purposes of this SPI, I am assuming that the most likely master of the accounts listed above, if they are indeed socks, is Newcomer1, but I recommend comparing them to both groups listed in the previous SPI.
So, why do I suspect that there are additional socks still at large? Let's start with BulkData, who I consider the more likely sock. The biggest tell uniting both of the indeffed sock teams was their insistence that any statement relying on a single source—whatever the quality—can be arbitrarily deleted. Consider the following edit summaries:
- "Removed section, it is largely based on single source. WP: UNDUE given based on one person's account"; "Assume good faith. Removed section, it is largely based on single source. WP: UNDUE given based on one person's account"; "Removed section, it is largely based on single source. Single source or one person's account, does not give weight to this topic"; "One individual's claim cannot be used to verify"; "Unable to verify claim based on single source"; "Extraordinary claims need extraordinary sources - these claims are based largely on a single source"; "Largely based on a single source"—Atlantic12
- "The section was deleted since it was based primarily on a single source, while making very serious claims. Accuracy and neutrality is disputed because only a single source is used"—Newcomer1
- "MEK and the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict section is based on a single source. This information is not verifiable"; "Removed material of section that cannot be verified. It is based on single source"—Newcomer 1 confirmed sockpuppet NickRovinsky.
Now compare that to BulkData:
- "Removed, not verifiable by multiple reliable sources WP:NOTNP WP:V"; "not verifiable by multiple reliable sources WP:NOTNP WP:V See Talk"; "not verifiable by multiple reliable sources WP:NOTNP - See Talk"—BulkData
BulkData was created in 2016, during the same rough time period as the other Newcomer1 socks: Newcomer1 was created on August 15, NickRovinsky was created on October 10, BulkData was created on October 21, and Saleh Hamedi was created on December 19. The Atlantic12 socks, by contrast, originated in October–November 2013.
DirectAttrition appears to suffer from much the same problem, using an alphabet soup of policies to deem well-sourced content "unverifiable," although this account tends to soften the language rather than delete the source outright:
- "Cannot be verified by source given. Wikipedia:ORIGINAL Revised text for NPOV and verifiability"; "Cannot be verified by source given. Wikipedia:ORIGINAL Revised text for NPOV and verifiability"; "Revised text for NPOV and verifiability Wikipedia:ORIGINAL"—DirectAttrition
As I recall, I considered including DirectAttrition in the previous SPI but decided not to because that was the only account dating from 2014 (rather than 2013 or 2016) and because DirectAttrition seemed to have a somewhat wider range of interests than most of the others. In light of the above, I consider the similarities clear enough to justify a check.
There is also at least one other account editing People's Mujahedin of Iran that I consider shady, given the massive sockpuppet attacks of the recent past, but without solid evidence I don't think it would be appropriate to relay my speculation here. Let's just say that I do not know of any other article in which such a disproportionate number of its editors (including its confirmed sockpuppets) have userpages with inspirational quotes from famous people (DirectAttrition included). Then again, there are coincidences, and even if other sock– or meatpuppetry is ongoing, I may not fully understand it. TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 23:15, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- The following accounts are Confirmed to Atlantic12 (talk · contribs · count):
- DirectAttrition (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- BulkData (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Detente 1 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Blocked and tagged. Clerk assistance requested: This case should be merged into Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Atlantic12.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:12, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- Done. GABgab 02:50, 27 July 2017 (UTC)