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===24 March 2018=== |
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====Suspected sockpuppets==== |
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* {{checkuser|1=London Hall}} |
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* {{checkuser|1=Atlantic12}} |
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* {{checkuser|1=Newcomer1}} |
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* {{checkuser|1=DirectAttrition}} |
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I am asking to check whether {{user|London Hall}} is technically related to any of the users proved to be in three suckpuppet clusters of [[User:Atlantic12]], [[User:Newcomer1]] and [[User:DirectAttrition]]. The other two IPs mentioned above are suspected to be linked to these three users. |
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;Background |
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The article [[People's Mujahedin of Iran]] (PMOI) has been subject to technically-proved coordinated effort twice, in January and July 2017. At least 11 accounts, possibly run by individuals directly affiliated with the PMOI itself, tried to censor unflattering material about the organization. (Please see the reports filed by [[User:TheTimesAreAChanging]] here: [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Atlantic12/Archive]]) Back in January 2017, [[User:EdJohnston]] said: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&oldid=760068554#User:Saleh_Hamedi_reported_by_User:Pahlevun_.28Result:_Protection.29 Due to concern about possible socking, I've placed the article under extended confirmed protection for one year. Several new accounts with no other interests and good knowledge of Wikipedia have sprung up to defend the group that is the subject of the article. This seems like too much of a coincidence.] Now it seems that we are witnessing the third endeavor. |
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;Evidence 1, similar editing style and history |
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The user in question, London Hall, makes [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Oancia&oldid=724958571 the very first edit at 17:41, 12 June 2016], creating an article, which seems too sophisticated for a newbie. Plus, the user was created in the same year the users [[User:Newcomer1]], [[User:NickRovinsky]], [[User:Saleh Hamedi]] were created. London Hall goes on hiatus until 2018, making the second edit, which still seems done by an experienced user [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=La_Estrella_de_Panam%C3%A1&oldid=825640383 at 15:03, 14 February 2018]. (Similar to [[User:Atlantic12]], created in 2013 and on hiatus until 2016; [[User:Detente 1]], created in 2015 and on hiatus until 2017). After a while of editing noumerous articles, London Hall becomes extensively interested in one specific article, [[People's Mujahedin of Iran]]. This activity history is similar to those of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/DirectAttrition&offset=&limit=500&target=DirectAttrition DirectAttrition] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/BulkData&dir=prev&offset=20170203204242&limit=500&target=BulkData BulkData]. London Hall starts making minor edits on random articles, in a hurry to increase the number of his/her edits within a short period of time, in order to become an extended confirmed user (example: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mona_Mahmudnizhad&diff=prev&oldid=826123695], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mona_Mahmudnizhad&diff=prev&oldid=826123429], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mona_Mahmudnizhad&diff=prev&oldid=826123367], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mona_Mahmudnizhad&diff=prev&oldid=826123298], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mona_Mahmudnizhad&diff=prev&oldid=826123096], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mona_Mahmudnizhad&diff=prev&oldid=826122910], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mona_Mahmudnizhad&diff=prev&oldid=826122691], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mona_Mahmudnizhad&diff=prev&oldid=826122326], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mona_Mahmudnizhad&diff=prev&oldid=826122087]) An almost identical editing style applies to [[User:BulkData]] (example: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Chandler_(politician)&diff=prev&oldid=782010604], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Chandler_(politician)&diff=prev&oldid=782009953], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Chandler_(politician)&diff=prev&oldid=782009807], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Chandler_(politician)&diff=prev&oldid=782009753], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Chandler_(politician)&diff=prev&oldid=782009561], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Chandler_(politician)&diff=prev&oldid=782008186]) and to [[User:DirectAttrition]] (example: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nordstrom&diff=prev&oldid=764535343], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nordstrom&diff=prev&oldid=764535280], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nordstrom&diff=prev&oldid=764535240], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nordstrom&diff=prev&oldid=764535143], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nordstrom&diff=prev&oldid=764535006]) |
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On 19 February 2018, out of the blue, in a suspected [[WP:HOUND|hounding]], London Hall tries to taunt me in two consecutive edits (I stood in the way of the suckpuppets to purge the article in 2017, leading to blatant personal attacks against me) by [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liberalism_in_Iran&diff=prev&oldid=826494313 reverting an edit that I did on 2 February 2018] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Party_(Iran)&diff=prev&oldid=826495011 tagging an article I created]. Is this a coincidence? Maybe, but when I did not react, London Hall initiated a topic in the talkpage [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:People%27s_Party_(Iran)&diff=prev&oldid=826879181 two days later on 21 February]. On the same day, it appears to [[User:Jytdog]] that London Hall is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALondon_Hall&type=revision&diff=826885219&oldid=826483765 having a conflict of interest and being paid to edit], however London Hall denies this. |
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Last but not the least, London Hall follows the same techniques used by [[User:Saleh Hamedi]] ([[Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran/Archive 3|here]]) to justify removing the content. Engaging in edit war, while transforming discussions in the talkpage to a war of attrition unrelated to the edits made, in order to pretend following conduct policies, as well as slowing me down. Please consider comparing them. |
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;Evidence 2, similar userpages |
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London Hall once [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:London_Hall&direction=prev&oldid=826329732 had] a simple, one-sentence userpage, just like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Citieslife&direction=prev&oldid=729930140 User:Citieslife], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Carpe765&oldid=584375578 User:Carpe765], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tigereconomy&oldid=583395192 User:Tigereconomy], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Atlantic12&oldid=579514568 User:Atlantic12]. Most importantly, the similarity between these two userpages is intersting: |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:London_Hall&direction=next&oldid=826329596 "I'm a recently retired Middle Eastern history professor. Taking up Wikipedia as a new hobby."]—London Hall |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Newcomer1&oldid=755018446 "Born Iranian, living and working as a history teacher in London. Travel a lot for work purposes. I Love history..."]—Newcomer1 |
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;Evidence 2.5, same self-described background |
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[[User:Newcomer1]] is self-described "Born Iranian" and living in London, "London Hall" has a username with the word "London" and is also very interested in articles somehow related to Iran (e.g. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iranian_National_Commission_for_UNESCO&diff=prev&oldid=826118014 Iranian National Commission for UNESCO], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bandari_music&diff=prev&oldid=826119276 Bandari music], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aran_va_Bidgol&diff=prev&oldid=826117293 Aran va Bidgol], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moalagh_Bridge&diff=prev&oldid=826119040 Moalagh Bridge], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Farrokhroo_Parsa&diff=prev&oldid=826124514 Farrokhroo Parsa], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zahra_Bahrami&diff=prev&oldid=826119669 Zahra Bahrami], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Soraya_Manutchehri&diff=prev&oldid=826124205 Soraya Manutchehri]). |
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;Evidence 3, similar remarks |
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*London Hall [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APeople%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&type=revision&diff=832076456&oldid=832076037 has stated] that PMOI is "Iranian regime's main opposition" (a bogus, by the way), the term known sockpuppets have occasionally used before in the discussions, examples: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASaleh_Hamedi&type=revision&diff=760848155&oldid=759858178 Saleh Hamedi] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=prev&oldid=756318868 NickRovinsky]. |
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*London Hall's edit summaries suggest that anything he deems violating NPOV —whatever the quality— can be arbitrarily deleted: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=prev&oldid=831885098 "addressing NPOV per Talk page"], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=prev&oldid=832078567 "NPOV reference/statement"], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=prev&oldid=832076999 "NPOV"], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=prev&oldid=832077069 "NPOV"], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=prev&oldid=831637357 "NPOV"], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=prev&oldid=831637887 "Removing NPOV per Talk Page discussion"] |
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Consider the following edit summaries, among others: |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&type=revision&diff=752679870&oldid=752645725 "Does not follow NPOV"]—NickRovinsky |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=755770722&oldid=755681331 "section violates NPOV guidelines"]—36Balloons |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=753717911&oldid=753679452 "Removed material that does not follow NPOV guidelines"]—Tigereconomy |
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;Evidence 4, same edits and sensivity to the same content |
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#London Hall [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&type=revision&diff=829252581&oldid=823625317 is determined] to scrub the word "violent" from the lead, done by [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&type=revision&diff=758693298&oldid=758692905 TheDreamBoat] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&type=revision&diff=774985285&oldid=774431400 DirectAttrition] before. |
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#London Hall wants the same content [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&type=revision&diff=831637887&oldid=831637357 removed] that was previously a goal for the suckpuppets, example: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=759715972&oldid=759684967 Citieslife] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=752818194&oldid=752719523 NickRovinsky] |
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#London Hall removes [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=prev&oldid=832078567 this], done before by [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=756737267&oldid=756736975 Saleh Hamedi] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran&diff=753195639&oldid=753192665 NickRovinsky] among others. |
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I could wait more for London Hall to make more edits, showing much more similar activities and behaviour with the suckpuppets, however, I think these are enough to justify a CheckUser. Regards. [[User:Pahlevun|Pahlevun]] ([[User talk:Pahlevun|talk]]) 10:17, 24 March 2018 (UTC) |
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Atlantic12
- Atlantic12 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Populated account categories: confirmed
24 March 2018
– A user has requested CheckUser. An SPI clerk will shortly look at the case and endorse or decline the request.
Suspected sockpuppets
- London Hall (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Atlantic12 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Newcomer1 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- DirectAttrition (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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I am asking to check whether London Hall (talk · contribs) is technically related to any of the users proved to be in three suckpuppet clusters of User:Atlantic12, User:Newcomer1 and User:DirectAttrition. The other two IPs mentioned above are suspected to be linked to these three users.
- Background
The article People's Mujahedin of Iran (PMOI) has been subject to technically-proved coordinated effort twice, in January and July 2017. At least 11 accounts, possibly run by individuals directly affiliated with the PMOI itself, tried to censor unflattering material about the organization. (Please see the reports filed by User:TheTimesAreAChanging here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Atlantic12/Archive) Back in January 2017, User:EdJohnston said: Due to concern about possible socking, I've placed the article under extended confirmed protection for one year. Several new accounts with no other interests and good knowledge of Wikipedia have sprung up to defend the group that is the subject of the article. This seems like too much of a coincidence. Now it seems that we are witnessing the third endeavor.
- Evidence 1, similar editing style and history
The user in question, London Hall, makes the very first edit at 17:41, 12 June 2016, creating an article, which seems too sophisticated for a newbie. Plus, the user was created in the same year the users User:Newcomer1, User:NickRovinsky, User:Saleh Hamedi were created. London Hall goes on hiatus until 2018, making the second edit, which still seems done by an experienced user at 15:03, 14 February 2018. (Similar to User:Atlantic12, created in 2013 and on hiatus until 2016; User:Detente 1, created in 2015 and on hiatus until 2017). After a while of editing noumerous articles, London Hall becomes extensively interested in one specific article, People's Mujahedin of Iran. This activity history is similar to those of DirectAttrition and BulkData. London Hall starts making minor edits on random articles, in a hurry to increase the number of his/her edits within a short period of time, in order to become an extended confirmed user (example: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9]) An almost identical editing style applies to User:BulkData (example: [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15]) and to User:DirectAttrition (example: [16], [17], [18], [19], [20]) On 19 February 2018, out of the blue, in a suspected hounding, London Hall tries to taunt me in two consecutive edits (I stood in the way of the suckpuppets to purge the article in 2017, leading to blatant personal attacks against me) by reverting an edit that I did on 2 February 2018 and tagging an article I created. Is this a coincidence? Maybe, but when I did not react, London Hall initiated a topic in the talkpage two days later on 21 February. On the same day, it appears to User:Jytdog that London Hall is having a conflict of interest and being paid to edit, however London Hall denies this.
Last but not the least, London Hall follows the same techniques used by User:Saleh Hamedi (here) to justify removing the content. Engaging in edit war, while transforming discussions in the talkpage to a war of attrition unrelated to the edits made, in order to pretend following conduct policies, as well as slowing me down. Please consider comparing them.
- Evidence 2, similar userpages
London Hall once had a simple, one-sentence userpage, just like User:Citieslife, User:Carpe765, User:Tigereconomy, User:Atlantic12. Most importantly, the similarity between these two userpages is intersting:
- "I'm a recently retired Middle Eastern history professor. Taking up Wikipedia as a new hobby."—London Hall
- "Born Iranian, living and working as a history teacher in London. Travel a lot for work purposes. I Love history..."—Newcomer1
- Evidence 2.5, same self-described background
User:Newcomer1 is self-described "Born Iranian" and living in London, "London Hall" has a username with the word "London" and is also very interested in articles somehow related to Iran (e.g. Iranian National Commission for UNESCO, Bandari music, Aran va Bidgol, Moalagh Bridge, Farrokhroo Parsa, Zahra Bahrami, Soraya Manutchehri).
- Evidence 3, similar remarks
- London Hall has stated that PMOI is "Iranian regime's main opposition" (a bogus, by the way), the term known sockpuppets have occasionally used before in the discussions, examples: Saleh Hamedi and NickRovinsky.
- London Hall's edit summaries suggest that anything he deems violating NPOV —whatever the quality— can be arbitrarily deleted: "addressing NPOV per Talk page", "NPOV reference/statement", "NPOV", "NPOV", "NPOV", "Removing NPOV per Talk Page discussion"
Consider the following edit summaries, among others:
- "Does not follow NPOV"—NickRovinsky
- "section violates NPOV guidelines"—36Balloons
- "Removed material that does not follow NPOV guidelines"—Tigereconomy
- Evidence 4, same edits and sensivity to the same content
- London Hall is determined to scrub the word "violent" from the lead, done by TheDreamBoat and DirectAttrition before.
- London Hall wants the same content removed that was previously a goal for the suckpuppets, example: Citieslife and NickRovinsky
- London Hall removes this, done before by Saleh Hamedi and NickRovinsky among others.
I could wait more for London Hall to make more edits, showing much more similar activities and behaviour with the suckpuppets, however, I think these are enough to justify a CheckUser. Regards. Pahlevun (talk) 10:17, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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