January 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 10, 2018.
Michael Zazarino
- Michael Zazarino → I Should Have Never Gone Ziplining (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Redirect for NN voice actor to the one role he had. Please consider this a nomination for Michael zazarino as well. Toddst1 (talk) 22:34, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete both per the nomination statement. In addition, these redirects were created after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Zazarino (2nd nomination) was closed as "delete", not "delete and redirect". Peacock (talk) 19:30, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
KEEP Actually, Michael Zazarino was originally closed as a redirect, which is why I made it one (even though I originally crafter a well researched, and properly referenced article on Michael). Michael has also appeared on other shows FYI. A quick trip to IMDb will inform you of this. I originally made a page for Michael because I am a big fan of South Park, and I wanted to contribute to the Wikipedia community. South Park is one of the most widely watched shows in the world. The live action episode was one of the most unique episodes ever created (as the show is a cartoon). Michael played Stan Marsh. This a character that is recognized by name all over the world. Michael was the lead of the show that episode (as he did the most acting out of all of the live action actors), and the entire crux of the show based on the live action scenes. These were fully acted, long scenes, with heavy dialogue, as well as a monologue delivered by Michael. This was a major part. There were articles about the live action on Huffington Post, IGN, AV Club, Thrillist, and International Business Times, as well as an interview with the creators of South Park (Trey Parker and Matt Stone) about the casting and use of live action on the South Park. To emphasize, Stan Marsh which is one of the most well known fictional cartoon characters ever created and he was played in live action form by Michael Zazarino. Fans of the show have a right to know who this is if they research Michael or the episode on Wikipedia without their results turning up blank. Why would you want to take that away from fans of the show or anyone else who is curious about finding out more about an actor who played the lead character on a major show? What is the point of removing an actor who has appeared on one of the largest shows in the world, as one of the most well known characters in the world? Especially when the episode is still CURRENTLY being replayed on Comedy Central as well as being streamed on major platforms such as Hulu. I honestly do not think the editors who have voted to delete this redirect or my past article have seen the live action episode of South Park, and therefore they are naive and don't understand what it was. Maybe they think it was a small voice over role? If you have not seen the episode, and you have voted to delete this article, please actually WATCH it to understand. It is not a cartoon. It is real people, really acting, and really doing scenes. As some of the biggest cartoon characters in the world with Michael playing Stan Marsh. Not just a quick appearance, but actually doing full scenes with a story arc. This is NOT a voice actor and it was not voice acting. This was LIVE ACTION acting on one of the worlds best known cartoons which is why it was so special and such a big deal. Please actually watch the episode and don't just assume you know what it is. SouthParkFan2017 (talk) 03:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding comment by SouthParkFan2017 (talk • contribs) who has made few or no other edits outside this topic. 03:14, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- I will say Keep because I would imagine it is useful for users who find themselves looking this actor up for whatever reason to be directed to the page that most closely represents him. ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-☖ 19:43, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
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Flag salute
- Flag salute → Bellamy salute (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
This is a very american-centric redirect and if someone searches for the poem, Flag Salute but types Flag salute instead, they will end up at the wrong article, with Flag salute being an obscure synonym for the Bellamy Salute. The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. Toddst1 (talk) 00:45, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget to "Flag Salute", with hatnote pointing to current target.— PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 01:02, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Delete WP:REDLINK to encourage creation of an article about flag salutes in different countries (instead of what's effectively an WP:INUSA redirect).Flag Salute is not a good target, per WP:DIFFCAPS. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:12, 2 January 2018 (UTC)- Since there seems to be resistance to deletion, retarget to Salute#Civilian salutes (since that section is almost entirely about flags) and hatnote the poem there. Neither page views nor incoming links nor usage of the phrase in Google Books support that the poem is WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT for lower-case "salute". 59.149.124.29 (talk) 07:07, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget to "Flag Salute" per PinkAmpers&.―Matthew J. Long -Talk-☖ 21:43, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget to Flag Salute per User:PinkAmpersand --Lenticel (talk) 01:05, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Odd to call something "american-centric" and recommend retargeting it to an American poem. The IP's suggestion has some merit, but civilians aren't the only ones who salute flags, and pointing to just plain Salute doesn't seem very helpful. Since it's linked in the first line of the target article anyway, I really don't see a problem here. --BDD (talk) 22:25, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Crime in Puerto Rico
- Crime in Puerto Rico → Illegal drugs in Puerto Rico (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
I clicked on this link looking for information about the Puerto Rican criminal justice system, and instead found this. It's a seven-year-old article that was at this title for a full two years before being moved, so I'm slightly hesitant to delete it, but ultimately I think that's what would be best, per WP:REDLINK; if anything, the relatively high traffic will make it that much more likely that an article be created. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 17:04, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - As stated by the nominator, this redirect which I once created is no longer needed and therefore should be deleted. The redirect was created in the first place because someone had written about the subject "Crime in Puerto Rico" indicating that "drugs" was the only criminal factor, which is not true and as such was redirected to the article "Illegal drugs in Puerto Rico". Since crime in Puerto Rico is not limited to illegal drugs, then the redirect no longer makes any sense. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:19, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Retarget to Puerto Rico#Crime unless someone vouches for the need of a WP:REDLINK incentive for article creation. – Uanfala (talk) 23:47, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDLINK, nom, and @Marine 69-71. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 00:37, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDLINK --Lenticel (talk) 01:24, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDLINK ZXCVBNM (TALK) 15:42, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
- Retarget per Uanfala. More information would be helpful there, but that could be said about almost anything. And presumably more content would need to be added at that section before thought was given to a standalone article again anyway. --BDD (talk) 22:13, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Retarget per Uanfala - a section exists on the topic, so a redirect there makes sense. Galobtter (pingó mió) 10:30, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Reverse redirect. The article used to be about "crime in Puerto Rico" with a heavy emphasis on illegal drugs. It was moved probably because of this emphasis, but I don't think it needs to be blown up and start anew (ala WP:REDLINK). There are still plenty of signs the article was originally about crime in general, chief among them include the infobox that has nothing specifically to do with illegal drugs as well as sections on gangs and police corruption. Perhaps there can be a few more sections regarding non-drug related crime, but I do feel the current article would be the place to add that information, especially seeing that the current article is currently <20kb. Looking at the final revision before the page move, there was a section on political corruption that could be re-added, for example. -- Tavix (talk) 02:25, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- I would support this as well. The target article is currently the only article for "Illegal drugs in" [place]; if we don't reverse, perhaps it should be moved to the more standard Illegal drug trade in Puerto Rico. --BDD (talk) 15:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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- At the risk of making an even further mess of things, I went ahead and created 'Crime within Puerto Rico' so that we had something that functions as a general concept article. I propose that its content be swapped with 'Crime in Puerto Rico' so that said page is no longer a redirect at all. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:13, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- @CoffeeWithMarkets: Am I correct in my understanding of RfD policy, in thinking that you're allowed to make that move yourself right now and moot the entire RfD? Because if so, I'd say that's what you should do. Your article looks great! @Marine 69-71: Any thoughts? — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 00:01, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Eurosocialism
- Social democracy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ] →
Not mentioned anywhere in the target, so the reader looking for a definition of the term is left none the wiser. Could be a soft redirect to Wiktionary. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 16:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - Given the commentary that uses the specific term "Eurosocialism", might this be a case of WP:REDLINK? CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 20:46, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
2018 flu pandemic
- 2018 flu pandemic → 2017–18 United States flu season (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
There is no flu "pandemic" right now in 2018, so there is no reason to keep this title. Presently, the flu may be endemic in the United States, but not around the world. –MPWikiEdits (questions?) 15:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment This page need not be deleted. If this redirect page could be moved to a proper title such as "2018 American flu endemic" or even "2018 flu endemic", that would be acceptable. –MPWikiEdits (questions?) 17:10, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Keep per WP:CHEAP as a useful search term, consistent with other flu seasons. The page was inappropriately deleted as {{db-g7}}. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:16, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:GLOBALIZE and/or WP:XY. Some of you may have noticed that influenza also occurs outside the United States. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:37, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Misleading redirect.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:04, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Type-0
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was retarget to Type 0. I realize that this is an early closure, but Type 0 appears to be the most appropriate choice for retargeting as it is a disambiguation page. If you have any questions or concerns about this closure, please do let me know by leaving a message on my talk page (please be civil) and I will get back to you as soon as possible. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:17, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Too confusing with the blood type "O". ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget to Type 0, a disambiguation page. While I don't think there would be much confusion, I've added it to the see also. -- Tavix (talk) 16:59, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget to Type 0 like Tavix said. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 20:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Final Fantasy PS3
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Final Fantasy video games. Closing early as this is most likely the outcome that will be reached and makes the most sense. Due to the fact that this is an early close. if you object to this closure and wish for further discussion instead, please reach out to me on my talk page & I happily revert in favour of further discussion (and will get back to you as soon as possible (please be civil)). (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:27, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Final Fantasy PS3 → Final Fantasy XIII (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Misleading, as there is more than one Final Fantasy game on the PS3 system. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:49, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of Final Fantasy video games, where games available on the PS3 are listed. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Ffx3
- Ffx3 → Final Fantasy XIII (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Ff-x3 → Final Fantasy XIII (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Final Fantasy X3 → Final Fantasy XIII (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
"x3" is a really, really weird way of writing "13", making this redirect implausible. Also confusing and misleading, as there is a Final Fantasy X-2.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:45, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Gestalt Mode (Final Fantasy XIII)
- Gestalt Mode (Final Fantasy XIII) → Final Fantasy XIII (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Given that there is no article or redirect called Gestalt Mode the idea of a disambiguation of it seems unnecessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:43, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Refine to Final_Fantasy_XIII#Battle_system where Gestalt Mode is mentioned and create Gestalt Mode, assuming no other reasonable targets. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:29, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Post traumatic stress disorder assessment tools
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was keep. Closing early as it was retargeted by Doc James to a specific section as per the nominator's (pseudo) condition for "keep" ("it may be appropriate to retarget this redirect to a section in the target article, but I'm not sure where").
If you have any questions or concerns about this closure, please do let me know by leaving a message on my talk page (please be civil) and I will get back to you as soon as possible.
Admins/other experienced users: Due to the fact that it is an early close, if it is believed that further consensus be obtained before closure, please reach out to me on my talk page and I will happily revert the close in favour of further discussion. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:23, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Post traumatic stress disorder assessment tools → Posttraumatic stress disorder (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The word "tool" is nowhere in the target article. However, it may be appropriate to retarget this redirect to a section in the target article, but I'm not sure where. Either way, in the article's present state, this title redirecting to the top of its current target (without a section redirect) is a bit misleading since the subject of the redirect is not mentioned or identified at the top of the article. Steel1943 (talk) 13:08, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Have re targeted here Posttraumatic_stress_disorder#Diagnosis Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:21, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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SG100
Comment on redirect: ", #SG100 is used to celebrate the 50 years after SG50, the time from Singapore (between: 9 August 2015 and 9 August 2065)." This violates WP:CRYSTAL, but is there otherwise a good reason to keep this redirect? feminist (talk) 13:04, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - no mention of centennial celebrations planned for 47 years from now in the article. Could be confused with the proper notation for 100 Singaporean dollars. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:41, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Final Fantasy VII wiki
- Final Fantasy VII wiki → Final Fantasy VII (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Pointless, self-referential redirect that is unnecessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:11, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete there's an FFVII Wikia site, but it isn't discussed at the target or anywhere else in Wikipedia, and shouldn't be given its lack of reliable-source coverage. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 10:42, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - I agree. This doesn't seem useful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. The target is not or is not about a Final Fantasy VII wiki. Steel1943 (talk) 17:18, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
List of Final Fantasy V locations
- List of Final Fantasy V locations → Final Fantasy V (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
As usual, Setting section is not a list, this redirect is unnecessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Restore this revision of List of Final Fantasy V locations, then send to WP:AFD. This is yet another case of a {{R with history}} that was blanked and redirected without a WP:AFD discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 13:17, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Lets not wasted a bunch of editor time by restoring a 10-year-old article revision only to turn around and delete it. I appreciate that this redirect did not follow some policy or another that mandates that we never, ever get rid of fancruft without making sure it takes a lot of time, but trying to retroactively fix process violations from the past decade is a complete waste of time for everyone involved. --PresN 18:55, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
List of Final Fantasy IV locations
- List of Final Fantasy IV locations → Final Fantasy IV (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- List of Final Fantasy IV Locations → Final Fantasy IV (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Yet again, Setting section has no list, making this redirect unnecessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:59, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Restore this revision of List of Final Fantasy IV locations, retarget List of Final Fantasy IV Locations to List of Final Fantasy IV locations, then send List of Final Fantasy IV locations to WP:AFD. This is yet another case of a {{R with history}} that was blanked and redirected without a WP:AFD discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 13:14, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Lets not wasted a bunch of editor time by restoring a 10-year-old article revision only to turn around and delete it. I appreciate that this redirect did not follow some policy or another that mandates that we never, ever get rid of fancruft without making sure it takes a lot of time, but trying to retroactively fix process violations from the past decade is a complete waste of time for everyone involved. --PresN 18:55, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Fainaru Fantajii IV
- Fainaru Fantajii IV → Final Fantasy IV (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Delete as no one will literally search for the romanization of the title. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:57, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:FORRED, considering that this is apparently the romanization of the Japanese title. Steel1943 (talk) 13:25, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
HuainaruhuantaziIV
- HuainaruhuantaziIV → Final Fantasy IV (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Again with the weird romanizations. It's obvious this is an implausible redirect. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Eubot mistranscription garbage (turning ファ Fa into Hua). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 11:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Final Fantasy Iii
- Final Fantasy Iii → Final Fantasy III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Highly implausible. Why would someone type one uppercase "I" and then two lowercase? ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - I suppose somebody, somewhere, might do this. But I really don't believe that the redirect is worth keeping. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:08, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Final Fantasy 3j
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was keep. It appears that the redirects could be useful (WP:RFD#KEEP #5) and were once a common term for referring to the games.
Due to the fact that this is an early close. if you object to this closure and wish for further discussion instead, please reach out to me on my talk page & I happily revert in favour of further discussion (and will get back to you as soon as possible (please be civil)). (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:32, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Final Fantasy 3j → Final Fantasy III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Final Fantasy IIIj → Final Fantasy III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Apparently someone used the name as shorthand for the Japanese exclusive version of the game. However, it appears to be a non-notable neologism. Unnecessary - delete. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. These were common terms used to distinguish Final Fantasy III US (aka Final Fantasy VI) and Final Fantasy III on the NES in an earlier era. Redirects don't have to be "notable", just useful. SnowFire (talk) 08:59, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Please see WP:RFD#KEEP #5, "it's useful." Redirects are more flexible than article content with a much weaker standard for inclusion. As far as sources, a simple Google search should suffice. SnowFire (talk) 20:05, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep yeah, anecdotally a decade ago it was not uncommon to refer to the game released in the US as "Final fantasy 3" and the actual game by that name released solely in Japan as "Final Fantasy 3j", since many people wouldn't immediately recognize "Final Fantasy 6" since no such game by that name had been released in the US. Redirects do not need sources in order to justify themselves. --PresN 18:58, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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List of Final Fantasy III characters
- List of Final Fantasy III characters → Final Fantasy III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Characters section has no list. Pointless redirect - delete. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:45, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Weak keep it's broken up into three paragraphs about key characters, but could be reorganized into a list. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:17, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
List of Final Fantasy III locations
- List of Final Fantasy III locations → Final Fantasy III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The setting section has no list of locations. Superfluous redirect. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Restore this revision of List of Final Fantasy III locations, then send to WP:AFD. This is yet another case of a {{R with history}} that was blanked and redirected without a WP:AFD discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 13:19, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Lets not wasted a bunch of editor time by restoring a 10-year-old article revision only to turn around and delete it. I appreciate that this redirect did not follow some policy or another that mandates that we never, ever get rid of fancruft without making sure it takes a lot of time, but trying to retroactively fix process violations from the past decade is a complete waste of time for everyone involved. --PresN 18:58, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Final Fantasy 3.
- Final Fantasy 3. → Final Fantasy III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Why does this even exist? Period is "point"-less. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:43, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. The full stop makes this an unlikely search term. Steel1943 (talk) 13:21, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete as unlikely typo and unused stylization. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:14, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Trophies (ps3)
- Trophies (ps3) → PlayStation Network (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Given that the disambiguation is all lowercase, and that Trophies are not a PS3 exclusive feature, this redirect is implausible. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:46, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- I've definitely seen some style guides use ps3 in the lowercase, so it's not implausible, so I would keep it and create the properly capitalized title. Don't see a problem with having a properly capitalized version, since PlayStation_Network#Trophies exists. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:25, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
PSN (Download)
- PSN (Download) → PlayStation Network (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Very strangely disambiguated redirect. Seems unnecessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Alt-right haircut
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was keep. Somewhat prominent use in reliable sources, including the Washington Post, Haaretz, and VICE). I believe this to also (at least partially) fall under WP:NOTCENSORED.
Due to the fact that this is an early close. if you object to this closure and wish for further discussion instead, please reach out to me on my talk page & I happily revert in favour of further discussion (and will get back to you as soon as possible (please be civil)). (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:40, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Alt-right haircut → Undercut (hairstyle) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Hitler Youth haircut → Undercut (hairstyle) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ] Added during the relist. -- Tavix (talk)
Delete. Pointless and unncessary. Name is not in common use. Dekacarandaebonelm (talk) 17:32, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
- Hitler Youth haircut redirect should probably also be deleted. I leave it to others if it should be nominated.--Dekacarandaebonelm (talk) 17:49, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Pichpich (talk) 17:42, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete both redirects "Alt-right haircut" and "Hitler Youth haircut". Peacock (talk) 21:46, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per Peacock. Both redirects are pointy. Toddst1 (talk) 22:36, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Delete both- I've seen some reporting about this, such as this story from Haaretz, but I'm wary about keeping these given the ambiguity and lack of context. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:24, 3 January 2018 (UTC)- On second thought, providing proper context is something that the target article could do it if was expanded a bit more. I'm feeling more neutral about this, actually. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:26, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. I read this article when it came out, and I could see myself or anyone else who read it thinking, "Hey, what's that alt-right haircut again?" and looking it up on here. Procedural note as to Hitler Youth haircut: No template has been put on the redirect nominating it for deletion, so this discussion cannot result in its deletion. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 14:34, 7 January 2018 (UTC) edited typo 02:28, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per PinkAmpersand. --BDD (talk) 22:28, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Officially adding "Hitler Youth haircut" to this nomination as several editors have opined about both.
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- Keep - The redirect isn't wrong, it has been associated with the alt-right in reliable sources.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:14, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep both - somewhat prominent use in reliable sources; WP:NOTCENSORED. The Hitler one is also {{R from move}}. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:45, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Celeris
- Celeris → Virtual Pool (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Celeris Inc → Virtual Pool (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ] Added during the second relist by -- Tavix (talk)
Delete. A game company should not redirect to one of the titles it produces. They've made other games, such as FlixMix. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 17:42, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Article gives the most information concerning Celeris including a note on FlixMix. Also, the article covers the franchise of products and assumes this is their most notable product. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:39, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- There is also the mythological figure of that name mentioned at Equuleus. – Uanfala (talk) 03:01, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Virtual Pool is the only notable game the studio has developed so it's the appropriate redirect target. --Mika1h (talk) 21:55, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
- Uh, that's stark-obviously not true. Repeat: FlixMix. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 13:57, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Comment: FlixMix is tagged for notability since 2012, but Virtual Pool is not. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 21:54, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. It's not like Virtual Pool is a household name. Maybe it's more notable than FlixMix, and certainly has a better article, but if there's more than one article it could point to, it's time to sink or swim. Standalone article or redlink. (Not that there couldn't be another option, such as targeting a parent company, but we'd have to find it first.) --BDD (talk) 21:47, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: relisting to add Celeris Inc to this discussion, a related redirect that almost surely should follow this one.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 02:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Paper machete
- Paper machete → Papier-mâché (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Papier machete → Papier-mâché (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
This was deleted in 2016 at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 10#Paper machete, but then got recreated several months later off an AFC request, on the purported grounds that this is a "common" misspelling. But firstly, I can find little evidence that it's a common misspelling -- I find far more Google hits for it as the deliberately punny name of a non-notable Soundcloud band than as a misspelled reference to papier maché -- and secondly, even if some person somewhere does think it's spelled this way, typing it into the search bar will have brought up the article the person was looking for before they actually have to type that implausible t. So there's just no genuine need for it. Bearcat (talk) 02:13, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Unless I'm misunderstanding something here, it looks like we can just speedily delete both per G4, which applies to the former for obvious reasons and to the latter as a "sufficiently identical cop[y]" of the former. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 03:01, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete both - I expect that if we just let the RFD process go through than it will be unanimously decided. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:24, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete both per nom. Machete isn't a plausible alternative spelling for Mache. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:46, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget Paper machete to paper cutter, delete the other. I don't buy that this is a common misspelling for papier-mâché, even if it's brutally Anglicized. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:49, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
68 Neelix redirects Similar to People of Acara
A Neelix combinatorial explosion for RfD to chew on. No opinion on the correct result beyond that it should be discussed Tazerdadog (talk) 01:50, 10 January 2018 (UTC) Full list:
- Comment: One of the redirects listed in this discussion, People of Achara, is mentioned in one of the hatnotes on the target page. Steel1943 (talk) 13:24, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- This badly needs to be split up as the redirects vary greatly in plausibility. For example, both 'Peoples of Acara' and 'People of Acara' are extremely reasonable, one of them even being explicitly mentioned in the target page as stated above. If we take this as an all or nothing situation, then I hope that we don't delete this block of redirects. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:23, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- This is definitely not an all-or nothing situation, some of the redirects are certainly appropriate - that said the combinatorial explosion is too big for me to safely conclude that they all are, and they seem similar enough that they are most efficiently discussed together. I'm looking to figure out where the line is between appropriate and excessive with this discussion. Tazerdadog (talk) 01:41, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Preliminary thoughts:
- Unfortunately all of the spelling variants of Adjara seem plausible, in that they make hundreds or thousands of appearances in Google Books; however, some of the "Autonomous Republic of Adjara" variants may be implausible. See hidden table below for details.
- "Person of" and "Persons of" are a bit silly
- "Peoples of" should not be redirecting to a single ethnic group in a multi-ethnic region. Demographics of Adjara points to Adjara#Population.
- Also, I WP:BOLDly corrected #52-#68 (should be "Persons of", were duplicates of #35-#51 "Person of"). Cheers, 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:35, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
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PSP 2
Unclear whether this refers to the PSP-2000 model, the PSP Go or the PS Vita. Too vague to be a redirect. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment adding PSP2 and Psp2, since they've all been jerked around back and forth between Phantasy Star Portable 2 and other targets multiple times without discussion. These should probably either point to the same place or get deleted together. Also, the protein RBM14 lists PSP2 as an alias. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 12:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Disambiguate, using PSP2 as the base title and redirecting the other redirects there. At the least, the disambiguation page should include Phantasy Star Portable 2 and RBM14. However, if these are the only two titles that match the nominated acronym (I consider "PSP2" in reference to PlayStation Vita as a {{R from incorrect name}} and in reference to PlayStation Portable as a failed WP:CRYSTAL), then instead weak retarget to RBM14 with a hatnote pointing to Phantasy Star Portable 2. Steel1943 (talk) 15:14, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Disambiguate as suggested. No clear primary topic for this abbreviation. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:12, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
PlayStation Vita homebrew
- PlayStation Vita homebrew → PlayStation Vita (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- PS Vita homebrew → PlayStation Vita (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The article says nothing about homebrew software. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:42, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Next-generation Portable
- Next-generation Portable → PlayStation Vita (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Next Generation Portable → PlayStation Vita (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Pretty much any portable console can be called "next-generation". Far too vague to redirect to any one article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:41, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Normally I would agree but Next Generation Portable was the actual codename of the device and was used in an official capicity for for several months until the Vita name was offically announced. In fact Next Generation Portable was the article title from Feb 5th 2011 to June 11th 2011 when Sony announced for Vita name.--64.229.165.48 (talk) 02:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per 64.229.165.48 feminist (talk) 13:05, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment is PSP primary topic for Portable? There are other products that are Portables. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:09, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- While it’s certainly true that there are other portables that were part of the next Generation Next Generation Portable was the official codename of this system as well as the title of the Vita article for months. To the best of my knowledge this is not the case for any other portables covered of Wikipedia. I believe the Vita article has more of a claim to this term than anywhere else.--64.229.165.48 (talk) 22:19, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- If this goes to Vita, a "redirects here" hatnote should be added to point to the Portable (disambiguation) page or the Compaq Portable series, which certainly has a number of generations of Portables. The Compaq one has a claim to the term "Next-generation Portable" [1] [2] It wouldn't have a claim on NGP though. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:01, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- While it’s certainly true that there are other portables that were part of the next Generation Next Generation Portable was the official codename of this system as well as the title of the Vita article for months. To the best of my knowledge this is not the case for any other portables covered of Wikipedia. I believe the Vita article has more of a claim to this term than anywhere else.--64.229.165.48 (talk) 22:19, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
PSP-Go (PSP-N1000)
- PSP-Go (PSP-N1000) → PlayStation Portable (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The disambiguation on this redirect is weird to say the least. There are no other PSP Go's besides the one model, so it doesn't need any disambiguation. Seems unnecessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:36, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
PlayStation Portable piracy
- PlayStation Portable piracy → PlayStation Portable (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Wikipedia does not promote piracy therefore this redirect shouldn't exist. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:35, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Wikipedia doesn't promote murder for hire either. PlayStation Portable piracy exists, and there's enough reliable sources on the topic to write at least an article section and make this a {{R to section}} (see e.g. Talk:PlayStation Portable/Archive 5#Piracy; there's more going back as far as 2005). OTOH I would understand deleting this if no one actually steps up to write that section, since the target does not mention the word "piracy" right now (it did in the past). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 09:52, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Pay$tation Portable
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was Speedy Delete, R3. by User:Writ_Keeper Lenticel (talk) 02:42, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Pay$tation Portable → PlayStation Portable (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Violates WP:NPOV. Pointless redirect. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete WP:RNEUTRAL says
if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral
, but this one isn't used in any reliable sources as far as I can see. It was created as a result of page-move vandalism, and gets almost no views. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 10:39, 10 January 2018 (UTC) - Delete - We have redirects that are pejorative; after all, 'Tricky Dick' goes to Richard Nixon's page as it should. However, this particular redirect is, as stated above, an obscure thing not really used by reliable sources. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:15, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Speedy delete should have been deleted years ago. I've sent this to CSD and referred to this thread. If the pejorative is still actively used or article has a section warranting such, then reconsider. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:03, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
Flash 0
Too vague to redirect to any specific article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:32, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - My first thought is that this was something to do with Flash (superhero), huh. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:18, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete not mentioned in the article. Searches for Flash 0 refer to a non-notable Flash Zero band, "The Flash #0" prequel for The Flash by Francis Manapul [3], articles on Adobe Flash Zero-Day vulnerability, AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Firmware 4.00
- Firmware 4.00 → PlayStation Portable (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Too vague to redirect to any specific article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:31, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. Lots of things have a firmware 4.00. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 10:34, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - I agree. As stated above, this is too vague to be useful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 20:53, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Boost Mode
- Boost Mode → PlayStation 4 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Redirect seems like it's reaching in terms of vagueness. "Boost mode" can also be a trait of video game vehicles, or maybe real life ones for that matter. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:28, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Hallo Zxcvbnm, its true that it is vague but there is not much anything else on wikipedia to also claim this word so far.--Crossswords (talk) 01:51, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Boost%20Mode&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1
- Comment Has Sony trademarked this term? It's discussed among Super Mario Bros. Wii U as a feature as well. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:50, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Textual differences in the Bible
- Textual differences in the Bible → List of New Testament verses not included in modern English translations (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
I can't think of any one good target for this redirect, but the present one definitely is not it. There are textual differences between the Dead Sea scrolls, the Masoretic text and the hypothetical Hebrew original of the Septuagint, so "textual differences" definitely is not "a problem for the New Testament and but not the Old Testament", so using "Bible" as a synonym for "New Testament" is nonsense, and the current redirect target is less about the textual differences themselves but an explanation of why particular verses are excluded from certain modern English critical translations (i.e., even if "New Testament" and "Bible" were synonymous, Textual variants in the New Testament would be a better redirect target). Thoughts? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:34, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- I think redirecting this to Textual variants in the New Testament is probably fine. Redirects aren't exactly precise, it gets close. Eventually there should be a variants of the Old Testament / Hebrew Scriptures article if it doesn't exist already, of course. The redirect should definitely be kept regardless per reason 4 in WP:RFD#KEEP, this is an old title from a page move and there might be unknown links on external sites pointing at it which would be broken. As a side note, I'm not sure moving the KJV-centric article from "Bible" to "New Testament" makes sense - it presumably wants to encompass the entire Bible, even if the current examples are NT only. SnowFire (talk) 10:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- I also support a retarget change over to 'Textual variants in the New Testament'. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:17, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget to Textual variants in the New Testament as recommended, and prepare hatnote for possible Textual variants in the Old Testament article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:49, 10 January 2018 (UTC)