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Old by month categories with entries
This section lists old maintenance categories that should be empty but are not. This can result from reversions of pages, incomplete nominations, bot errors, backlogs or pending manual work.
- Category:Categories for discussion from April 2024 (312) - started with 389 to be processed
How to use CfD
Nomination procedure
Twinkle
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, see § MassCFD.
MassCFD
You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massCFD to automatically make mass nominations.
Manual nominations
I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
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II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types
I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 June 9|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Closing procedure
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]
), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can create a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Special notes
Categories relating to stub articles should not be nominated here, but should be taken to Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion. If a group nomination of several similarly-named categories includes one or more stub categories, it is usual for non-stub categories to be nominated here first, with stub categories nominated separately at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion only once a decision has been reached on the non-stub types. As stub category names usually - though not always - follow permanent category naming, resulting changes to stub categories would frequently be considered as speediable.
When nominating a category, it's helpful to add a notice on the talk page of the most-closely related article. Doing so would not only extend an additional courtesy, but possibly also bring in editors who know more about the subject at hand. You can use {{cfd-article}} for this.
Categories that should exist but are missing articles or subcategories should be added to Category:Underpopulated categories using {{popcat}}.
If a category is only used as generated by a template (e.g. Category:Foo Stubs to correspond with Template:Foo-stub), and that template is deleted by regular WP:TFD or WP:SFD process, then the category can be deleted as well as long as it was nominated along with the template, or mentioned early in the discussion.
Speedy renaming and merging
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 02:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 338 open requests (. )
Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Vietnamese poets by era to Category:Vietnamese poets by period – C2C: parent is Poets by period Mason (talk) 01:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Monett Red Birds to Category:Monett Red Birds players – C2C: See Category:Minor league baseball players by team. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 01:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Third Lanark A.C. templates to Category:Third Lanark A.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Stranraer F.C. templates to Category:Stranraer F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Stenhousemuir F.C. templates to Category:Stenhousemuir F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:St Mirren F.C. templates to Category:St Mirren F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:St Johnstone F.C. templates to Category:St Johnstone F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ross County F.C. templates to Category:Ross County F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Rangers F.C. templates to Category:Rangers F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Raith Rovers F.C. templates to Category:Raith Rovers F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Queen's Park F.C. templates to Category:Queen% 27s Park F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Queen of the South F.C. templates to Category:Queen of the South F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Partick Thistle F.C. templates to Category:Partick Thistle F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Motherwell F.C. templates to Category:Motherwell F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Montrose F.C. templates to Category:Montrose F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Livingston F.C. templates to Category:Livingston F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Kilmarnock F.C. templates to Category:Kilmarnock F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Kelty Hearts F.C. templates to Category:Kelty Hearts F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Inverness Caledonian Thistle F.C. templates to Category:Inverness Caledonian Thistle F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hibernian F.C. templates to Category:Hibernian F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Heart of Midlothian F.C. templates to Category:Heart of Midlothian F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hamilton Academical F.C. templates to Category:Hamilton Academical F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Gretna F.C. templates to Category:Gretna F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Greenock Morton F.C. templates to Category:Greenock Morton F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Falkirk F.C. templates to Category:Falkirk F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dunfermline Athletic F.C. templates to Category:Dunfermline Athletic F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cowdenbeath F.C. templates to Category:Cowdenbeath F.C. navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Scotland football club navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 18:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mughal Court to Category:Mughal court – C2C. Mason (talk) 17:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Video games set in a fictional country to Category:Video games set in fictional countries – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:00, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Animated films set in a fictional country to Category:Animated films set in fictional countries – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:59, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films set in a fictional country to Category:Films set in fictional countries – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:59, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Anime and manga set in a fictional country to Category:Anime and manga set in fictional countries – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:58, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Comics set in a fictional country to Category:Comics set in fictional countries – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:58, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Operas with mythological or folkloric settings to Category:Operas set in mythological places – C2C: Parent is Category:Mythological places. This is the only category of its kind that isn't about a specific setting, but I don't expect deletion as the outcome. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:51, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03: not sure if I should oppose, but the category contains more than what is usually considered to be mythological. Maybe rename and purge. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Union of Scranton of the Old Catholic Churches to Category:Union of Scranton – C2D: Main article is Union of Scranton. Veverve (talk) 14:28, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:International Textile, Garment and Leather Workers' Federation to Category:Global union federations – C2F. Mason (talk) 14:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Presbyterian Church of Aotearoa New Zealand to Category:Reformed denominations in Oceania – C2F. Mason (talk) 14:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Buyid emirs of Fars to Category:Buyid emirs of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, anachronistic. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Then what do you propose? Abu Kalijar lead links to Fars province. Gonnym (talk) 21:49, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, anachronistic. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:History of Fars Province to Category:History of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Fars Province geography stubs to Category:Fars province geography stubs – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Transportation in Fars Province to Category:Transportation in Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tourist attractions in Fars Province to Category:Tourist attractions in Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sport in Fars Province to Category:Sport in Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Safavid governors of Fars to Category:Safavid governors of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Rashidun governors of Fars to Category:Rashidun governors of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:39, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Qajar governors of Fars to Category:Qajar governors of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:39, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Abbasid governors of Fars to Category:Abbasid governors of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:39, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Governors of Fars to Category:Governors of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:38, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose all governors nominations above, anachronistic. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Fars Province to Category:People from Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Newspapers published in Fars Province to Category:Newspapers published in Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mass media in Fars Province to Category:Mass media in Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Rural Districts of Fars Province to Category:Rural Districts of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Rural Districts of Fars Province to Category:Rural Districts of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Former populated places in Fars Province to Category:Former populated places in Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cities in Fars Province to Category:Cities in Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Populated places in Fars Province to Category:Populated places in Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Landforms of Fars Province to Category:Landforms of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Fars Province articles missing geocoordinate data to Category:Fars province articles missing geocoordinate data – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Districts of Fars Province to Category:Districts of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Counties of Fars Province to Category:Counties of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Geography of Fars Province to Category:Geography of Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education in Fars Province to Category:Education in Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Buildings and structures in Fars Province to Category:Buildings and structures in Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Fars Province to Category:Fars province – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:29, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Angelica Garcia (singer) albums to Category:Angélica Garcia (singer) albums – C2D: to make consistent with relevant article Ss112 11:19, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Jewish culture in France to Category:Jewish French culture – C2C: to make consistant with categories in Category:Jewish culture by country Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:German-Jewish culture in Germany to Category:Jewish German culture – C2C: to make consistant with categories in Category:Jewish culture by country Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Oh Sees albums to Category:Osees albums – C2D: Band renamed to Osees in 2020. Keep current name as redirect (they change their name a lot so all their former names would likely be useful redirects). QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Indians imprisoned during the Emergency (India) to Category:Indian people imprisoned during the Emergency (India) – C2C: norm is Indian people, not Indians Mason (talk) 21:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Danielle Bunten Berry games to Category:Video games designed by Danielle Bunten Berry – C2C: Per other categories in Category:Video games by designer. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sid Meier games to Category:Video games designed by Sid Meier – C2C: Per other categories in Category:Video games by designer. It clearly does not refer simply to the "Sid Meier" brand, as it explicitly states that it excludes branded games not actually designed by him. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Victims murdered by being dropped out of an aircraft to Category:People murdered by being dropped out of an aircraft – C2C: Siblings in all use Murder victims people murdered (or FOOian victims), not victims murdered, eg Category:People murdered by law enforcement officers Mason (talk) 19:53, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Thurn and Taxis to Category:Hereditary princes of Thurn and Taxis – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Baden to Category:Hereditary princes of Baden – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Neuburg to Category:Hereditary princes of Neuburg – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Parma to Category:Hereditary princes of Parma – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Sulzbach to Category:Hereditary princes of Sulzbach – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Württemberg to Category:Ereditary princes of Württemberg – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Naples to Category:Hereditary princes of Naples – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Modena to Category:Hereditary princes of Modena – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Baden-Baden to Category:Hereditary princes of Baden-Baden – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Hesse-Kassel to Category:Hereditary princes of Hesse-Kassel – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princesses of Thurn and Taxis to Category:Hereditary princesses of Thurn and Taxis – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princesses of Hesse-Kassel to Category:Hereditary princesses of Hesse-Kassel – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princesses of Baden-Baden to Category:Hereditary princesses of Baden-Baden – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princesses of Naples to Category:Hereditary princesses of Naples – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princesses of Baden to Category:Hereditary princesses of Baden – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princesses of Württemberg to Category:Hereditary princesses of Württemberg – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princesses of Parma to Category:Hereditary princesses of Parma – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princesses of Liechtenstein to Category:Hereditary princesses of Liechtenstein – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princesses of Modena to Category:Hereditary princesses of Modena – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Brazilian princesses to Category:Princesses of Brazil – C2D: Princess of Brazil. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Rainmaker Studios to Category:Mainframe Studios – C2D as Rainmaker Studios was moved/renamed to Mainframe Studios in 2020. Intrisit (talk) 18:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Swedish princesses to Category:Princesses of Sweden – C2D: List of princesses of Sweden. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:50, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Polish princesses to Category:Princesses of Poland – C2C: Category:Princes of Poland. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dutch princesses to Category:Princesses of the Netherlands – C2C: Category:Princes of the Netherlands. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Montenegrin princesses to Category:Princesses of Montenegro – C2D: Princesses of Montenegro. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Serbian princesses to Category:Princesses of Serbia – C2D: List of princesses of Serbia. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Greek princesses to Category:Princesses of Greece – C2D: List of princesses of Greece. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Liechtenstein princesses to Category:Princesses of Liechtenstein – C2C: Category:Princes of Liechtenstein. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Luxembourgian princesses to Category:Princesses of Luxembourg – C2C: Category:Princes of Luxembourg. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:New pages patrol backlog drives to Category:Wikipedia new pages patrol backlog drives – C2E. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:07, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedians in the New pages patrol School to Category:Wikipedians in the new pages patrol school – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Saudi Arabian princesses to Category:Princesses of Saudi Arabia – C2C: Category:Kings of Saudi Arabia. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Saudi Arabian princes to Category:Princes of Saudi Arabia – C2C: Category:Kings of Saudi Arabia. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: I am certainly not opposing these princes and princesses nominations, but it may be worthwhile to check all articles whether they truly are about a prince(ss) of country Foo rather than a prince(ss) of some other country and born in country Foo. If the latter, then purge. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Portuguese duchesses to Category:Duchesses of Portugal – C2C: Category:Dukes of Portugal. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:53, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Polish countesses to Category:Countesses of Poland – C2C: Category:Counts of Poland. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Spanish duchesses to Category:Duchesses of Spain – C2C: Category:Dukes of Spain. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Spanish countesses to Category:Countesses of Spain – C2C: Category:Counts of Spain. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Swedish baronesses to Category:Baronesses of Sweden – C2C: Category:Barons of Sweden. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:50, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French baronesses to Category:Baronesses of France – C2C: Category:Barons of France. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French duchesses to Category:Duchesses of France – C2C: Category:Dukes of France + children categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hungarian countesses to Category:Countesses of Hungary – C2C: Category:Counts of Hungary Hey man im josh (talk) 16:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Danish baronesses to Category:Baronesses of Denmark – C2C: Category:Barons of Denmark Hey man im josh (talk) 16:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Austrian countesses to Category:Countesses of Austria – C2C: Category:Counts of Austria. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Belgian countesses to Category:Countesses of Belgium – C2C: Category:Counts of Belgium as well as child categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: oppose the above duchesses, countesses and baronesses nominations, the proposed name wrongly suggests that Duchess of Foo was their title, while these categories are in fact about Fooian nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Belgian princesses to Category:Princesses of Belgium – C2C: Category:Princes of Belgium. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Iraqi princesses to Category:Princesses of Iraq – C2C: See Category:Princes of Iraq. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:9th-century Danish monarchs to Category:9th-century monarchs of Denmark – C2C: Consistency with other categories in Category:Danish monarchs. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:38, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:11th-century Princes of Antioch to Category:11th-century princes of Antioch – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:12th-century Princes of Antioch to Category:12th-century princes of Antioch – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:13th-century Princes of Antioch to Category:13th-century princes of Antioch – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:6th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:6th-century BC kings of Babylon – C2C: C2C with Category:Kings of Babylon / C2D with List of kings of Babylon. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:7th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:7th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:8th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:8th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:9th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:9th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:10th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:10th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:11th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:11th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:12th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:12th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:13th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:13th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:14th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:14th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:15th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:15th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:16th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:16th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:17th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:17th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:18th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:18th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:19th-century BC Babylonian kings to Category:19th-century BC kings of Babylon
- Category:21st-century Saudi kings to Category:21st-century kings of Saudi Arabia – C2C: Per parent Category:Kings of Saudi Arabia. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century Saudi kings to Category:20th-century kings of Saudi Arabia – C2C: Per parent Category:Kings of Saudi Arabia. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Austrian royal consorts to Category:Austrian consorts – C2D: List of Austrian consorts. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ghaznavid sultans to Category:Sultans of Ghazna – C2C: Category:Sultans + category contents. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose this one, the name refers to the dynasty Ghaznavids. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:14th-century Lords of Monaco to Category:14th-century lords of Monaco – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:11th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:11th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:12th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:12th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:13th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:13th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:14th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:14th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:15th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:15th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:16th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:16th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:17th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:17th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:18th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:18th-century kings of the Romans
- Category:19th-century Kings of the Romans to Category:19th-century kings of the Romans
- Oppose Kings of the Romans nominations. "King of the Romans" is a full title, it has nothing to do with Romans. Also, this has been on full discussion before. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:15th-century Dukes of Savoy to Category:15th-century dukes of Savoy
- Category:16th-century Dukes of Savoy to Category:16th-century dukes of Savoy
- Category:17th-century Dukes of Savoy to Category:17th-century dukes of Savoy
- Category:18th-century Dukes of Savoy to Category:18th-century dukes of Savoy
- Category:11th-century Counts of Savoy to Category:11th-century counts of Savoy
- Category:12th-century Counts of Savoy to Category:12th-century counts of Savoy
- Category:13th-century Counts of Savoy to Category:13th-century counts of Savoy
- Category:14th-century Counts of Savoy to Category:14th-century counts of Savoy
- Category:Hereditary Princesses of Monaco to Category:Hereditary princesses of Monaco
- Category:Crown Princesses of Denmark to Category:Crown princesses of Denmark
- Category:Crown Princesses of Norway to Category:Crown princesses of Norway
- Category:Crown Princesses of Saxony to Category:Crown princesses of Saxony
- Category:Crown Princesses of Sweden to Category:Crown princesses of Sweden
- Category:Crown Princesses of Württemberg to Category:Crown princesses of Württemberg
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Lorraine to Category:Hereditary princes of Lorraine
- Category:Crown Princes of Denmark to Category:Crown princes of Denmark
- Category:Crown Princes of Hanover to Category:Crown princes of Hanover
- Category:Crown Princes of Jordan to Category:Crown princes of Jordan
- Category:Crown Princes of Norway to Category:Crown princes of Norway
- Category:Crown Princes of Prussia to Category:Crown princes of Prussia
- Category:Crown Princes of Saudi Arabia to Category:Crown princes of Saudi Arabia
- Category:Crown Princes of Saxony to Category:Crown princes of Saxony
- Category:Crown Princes of Sweden to Category:Crown princes of Sweden
- Category:Crown Princes of Thailand to Category:Crown princes of Thailand
- Category:Crown Princes of Württemberg to Category:Crown princes of Württemberg
- Category:Danish princesses to Category:Princesses of Denmark – C2D: List of princesses of Denmark. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Afghan princes to Category:Princes of Afghanistan – C2D: See category contents. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Albanian princes to Category:Princes of Albania – C2D: See content of category. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Danish princes to Category:Princes of Denmark – C2D: List of princes of Denmark. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Greek princes to Category:Princes of Greece – C2D: List of princes of Greece. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Jordanian princes to Category:Princes of Jordan – C2D: List of princes of Jordan. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:14th-century Latin Emperors of Constantinople to Category:14th-century Latin emperors of Constantinople – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:13th-century Latin Emperors of Constantinople to Category:13th-century Latin emperors of Constantinople – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Latin Emperors of Constantinople to Category:Latin emperors of Constantinople – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:15th-century Sultans of Brunei to Category:15th-century sultans of Brunei – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:16th-century Sultans of Brunei to Category:16th-century sultans of Brunei
- Category:17th-century Sultans of Brunei to Category:17th-century sultans of Brunei
- Category:18th-century Sultans of Brunei to Category:18th-century sultans of Brunei
- Category:19th-century Sultans of Brunei to Category:19th-century sultans of Brunei
- Category:20th-century Sultans of Brunei to Category:20th-century sultans of Brunei
- Category:15th-century Sultans of Pahang to Category:15th-century sultans of Pahang
- Category:16th-century Sultans of Pahang to Category:16th-century sultans of Pahang
- Category:17th-century Sultans of Pahang to Category:17th-century sultans of Pahang
- Category:12th-century Sultans of Kedah to Category:12th-century sultans of Kedah
- Category:13th-century Sultans of Kedah to Category:13th-century sultans of Kedah
- Category:14th-century Sultans of Kedah to Category:14th-century sultans of Kedah
- Category:15th-century Sultans of Kedah to Category:15th-century sultans of Kedah
- Category:16th-century Sultans of Kedah to Category:16th-century sultans of Kedah
- Category:17th-century Sultans of Kedah to Category:17th-century sultans of Kedah
- Category:18th-century Sultans of Kedah to Category:18th-century sultans of Kedah
- Category:19th-century Sultans of Kedah to Category:19th-century sultans of Kedah
- Category:20th-century Sultans of Kedah to Category:20th-century sultans of Kedah
- Category:21st-century Sultans of Kedah to Category:21st-century sultans of Kedah
- Category:Cambodian monarchs to Category:Monarchs of Cambodia – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:16th-century Princes of Moscow to Category:16th-century princes of Moscow – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:15th-century Princes of Moscow to Category:15th-century princes of Moscow – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:14th-century Princes of Moscow to Category:14th-century princes of Moscow – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:13th-century Ottoman sultans to Category:13th-century sultans of the Ottoman Empire – C2C: C2D as well with List of sultans of the Ottoman Empire. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:14th-century Ottoman sultans to Category:14th-century sultans of the Ottoman Empire
- Category:15th-century Ottoman sultans to Category:15th-century sultans of the Ottoman Empire
- Category:16th-century Ottoman sultans to Category:16th-century sultans of the Ottoman Empire
- Category:17th-century Ottoman sultans to Category:17th-century sultans of the Ottoman Empire
- Category:18th-century Ottoman sultans to Category:18th-century sultans of the Ottoman Empire
- Category:19th-century Ottoman sultans to Category:19th-century sultans of the Ottoman Empire
- Category:20th-century Ottoman sultans to Category:20th-century sultans of the Ottoman Empire
- Category:Burial sites of Ottoman sultans to Category:Burial sites of sultans of the Ottoman Empire – C2C: See child and parent category. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:13th-century Princes of Andorra to Category:13th-century princes of Andorra – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:14th-century Princes of Andorra to Category:14th-century princes of Andorra
- Category:15th-century Princes of Andorra to Category:15th-century princes of Andorra
- Category:16th-century Princes of Andorra to Category:16th-century princes of Andorra
- Category:17th-century Princes of Andorra to Category:17th-century princes of Andorra
- Category:18th-century Princes of Andorra to Category:18th-century princes of Andorra
- Category:19th-century Princes of Andorra to Category:19th-century princes of Andorra
- Category:20th-century Princes of Andorra to Category:20th-century princes of Andorra
- Category:21st-century Princes of Andorra to Category:21st-century princes of Andorra
- Category:19th-century Princes of Monaco to Category:19th-century princes of Monaco – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:50, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dutch monarchs to Category:Monarchs of the Netherlands – C2D: List of monarchs of the Netherlands. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:18th-century Princes of Monaco to Category:18th-century princes of Monaco – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:17th-century Princes of Monaco to Category:17th-century princes of Monaco – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century Princes of Monaco to Category:20th-century princes of Monaco – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hereditary Princes of Monaco to Category:Hereditary princes of Monaco – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:21st-century Princes of Monaco to Category:21st-century princes of Monaco – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of Isabella II of Spain to Category:Cultural depictions of Isabella II – C2D: Isabella II. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Isabella II of Spain to Category:Isabella II – C2D: Isabella II. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lý dynasty emperors to Category:Emperors of the Lý dynasty – C2D: List of emperors of the Lý dynasty. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tang dynasty emperors to Category:Emperors of the Tang dynasty – C2D: List of emperors of the Tang dynasty. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:38, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Liao dynasty emperors to Category:Emperors of the Liao dynasty – C2D: List of emperors of the Liao dynasty. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Song dynasty emperors to Category:Emperors of the Song dynasty – C2D: List of emperors of the Song dynasty. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ming dynasty emperors to Category:Emperors of the Ming dynasty – C2D: List of emperors of the Ming dynasty. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Qing dynasty emperors to Category:Emperors of the Qing dynasty – C2D: List of emperors of the Qing dynasty. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Yuan dynasty emperors to Category:Emperors of the Yuan dynasty – C2D: List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese emperors to Category:Emperors of China – C2D: Emperor of China. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:31, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mughal emperors to Category:Emperors of the Mughal Empire – C2D: List of emperors of the Mughal Empire. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Murdered Chinese emperors to Category:Murdered emperors of China – C2D: Emperor of China. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Legendary Emperors of Japan to Category:Legendary emperors of Japan – C2D: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Japanese emperors to Category:Emperors of Japan – C2D: Emperor of Japan. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Han dynasty emperors to Category:Emperors of the Han dynasty – C2D: List of emperors of the Han dynasty. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Xia dynasty kings to Category:Kings of the Xia dynasty – C2B. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Zhou dynasty kings to Category:Kings of the Zhou dynasty – C2B. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Shang dynasty kings to Category:Kings of the Shang dynasty – C2B. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Rwandan kings to Category:Kings of Rwanda – C2D: List of kings of Rwanda / C2C with parent. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Burundian kings to Category:Kings of Burundi – C2D: List of kings of Burundi / C2C with parent. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Urartian kings to Category:Kings of Urartu – C2D: List of kings of Urartu / C2C with parent. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dacian kings to Category:Kings of Dacia – C2D: Based on List of kings of Thrace and Dacia / C2C with parent. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Thracian kings to Category:Kings of Thrace – C2D: Based on List of kings of Thrace and Dacia / C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lombard kings to Category:Kings of the Lombards – C2D: List of kings of the Lombards / C2C with parent. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hunnic kings to Category:Kings of the Huns – C2D: List of kings of the Huns / C2C with parent. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Children of Victor Emmanuel II of Italy to Category:Children of Victor Emmanuel II – C2D: Victor Emmanuel II. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of Victor Emmanuel II of Italy to Category:Cultural depictions of Victor Emmanuel II – C2D: Victor Emmanuel II. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Victor Emmanuel II of Italy to Category:Victor Emmanuel II – C2D: Victor Emmanuel II. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Children of Victor Emmanuel III of Italy to Category:Children of Victor Emmanuel III – C2D: Victor Emmanuel III. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Victor Emmanuel III of Italy to Category:Victor Emmanuel III – C2D: Victor Emmanuel III. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Children of Wilhelm II, German Emperor to Category:Children of Wilhelm II – C2D: Wilhelm II. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wilhelm II, German Emperor to Category:Wilhelm II – C2D: Wilhelm II. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Zog I of Albania to Category:Zog I – C2D: Zog I. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of Mary II of England to Category:Cultural depictions of Mary II – C2D: Mary II. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mary II of England to Category:Mary II – C2D: Mary II. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Juan Carlos I of Spain to Category:Juan Carlos I – C2D: Juan Carlos I. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden to Category:Cultural depictions of Gustavus Adolphus – C2D: Gustavus Adolphus. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden to Category:Gustavus Adolphus – C2D: Gustavus Adolphus. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Gustav I of Sweden to Category:Gustav Vasa – C2D: Gustav Vasa. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Felipe VI of Spain to Category:Felipe VI – C2D: Felipe VI. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Populated places in Rumonge Province to Category:Populated places in Burundi and Category:Rumonge Province – C2F, only contains Rumonge – Fayenatic London 13:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ferdinand VII of Spain to Category:Ferdinand VII – C2D: Ferdinand VII. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:50, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Alfonso XII of Spain to Category:Alfonso XII – C2D: Alfonso XII. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Alfonso XIII of Spain to Category:Alfonso XIII – C2D: Alfonso XIII. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mistresses of Augustus the Strong to Category:Mistresses of Augustus II the Strong – C2D: Augustus II the Strong. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Illegitimate children of Augustus the Strong to Category:Illegitimate children of Augustus II the Strong – C2D: Augustus II the Strong. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Augustus the Strong to Category:Augustus II the Strong – C2D: Augustus II the Strong. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Charles X to Category:Charles X of France – C2A: Charles X of France. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of Charles X to Category:Cultural depictions of Charles X of France – C2D: Charles X of France. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cnut the Great to Category:Cnut – C2D: Cnut. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of Cnut the Great to Category:Cultural depictions of Cnut – C2D: Cnut. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mistresses of Edward IV of England to Category:Mistresses of Edward IV – C2D: Edward IV. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People executed under Edward VI of England to Category:People executed under Edward VI – C2D: Edward VI. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:31, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of Edward V of England to Category:Cultural depictions of Edward V – C2D: Edward V. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of Edward VI of England to Category:Cultural depictions of Edward VI – C2D: Edward VI. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Court of Edward VI of England to Category:Court of Edward VI – C2D: Edward VI. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Edward VI of England to Category:Edward VI – C2D: Edward VI. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Children of Edward IV of England to Category:Children of Edward IV – C2D: Edward IV. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of Edward IV of England to Category:Cultural depictions of Edward IV – C2D: Edward IV. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Edward IV of England to Category:Edward IV – C2D: Edward IV. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Edward V of England to Category:Edward V – C2D: Edward V. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedia new page patrol to Category:Wikipedia new pages patrol – C2D: The group goes by "New pages patrol", see Wikipedia:New pages patrol. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Individual Glires to Category:Individual glires – C2A. Mason (talk) 03:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Individual primates by location to Category:Individual primates by country – C2C: parent is Individual animals by country Mason (talk) 03:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Computer game magazines published in the Netherlands to Category:Video game magazines published in the Netherlands – C2B. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 03:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Abc Conjecture to Category:Abc conjecture – C2A and C2D (Abc conjecture). — MarkH21talk 02:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Attacks on hospitals during the Yemeni civil war to Category:Attacks on hospitals during the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) – C2A: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Yemeni Civil War crimes to Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) crimes – C2A: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Yemeni military personnel killed in the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present) to Category:Yemeni military personnel killed in the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) – C2A: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Saudi Arabian military personnel killed in the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present) to Category:Saudi Arabian military personnel killed in the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) – C2A: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Yemeni military personnel of the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present) to Category:Yemeni military personnel of the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) – C2A: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Saudi Arabian military personnel of the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present) to Category:Saudi Arabian military personnel of the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) – C2A: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Military personnel killed in the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present) to Category:Military personnel killed in the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) – C2A: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People killed in the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present) to Category:People killed in the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) – C2C: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Military personnel of the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present) to Category:Military personnel of the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) – C2C: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Battles of the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present) to Category:Battles of the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) – C2C: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People of the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present) to Category:People of the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) – C2C: Category:Yemeni civil war (2014–present) 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Local council camps of the Girls Scouts of the USA to Category:Local council camps of the Girl Scouts of the USA – C2A: The organization name is "Girl Scouts of the USA" (not "Girls") GoingBatty (talk) 00:50, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedian Hyphen Luddites to Category:Wikipedian hyphen luddites – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:29, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Robot Food WikiLove templates to Category:Robot food WikiLove templates – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedia Collaboration templates to Category:Wikipedia collaboration templates – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedia Documentation to Category:Wikipedia documentation – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:La République En Marche! politician stubs to Category:Renaissance (French political party) politician stubs – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colorado Films films to Category:Colorado Film films – C2A: the name of the company is Colorado Film not Colorado Films. Alienautic (talk) 00:08, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:Society of Kurdistan to Category:Kurdish society – C2C: Please note that the category was previously moved speedy from 'Kurdish society'. Therefore, I request it be reverted. Similar categories in Category by ethnicity are named in this manner. Additionally, not only Kurds live in Kurdistan. Aldij (talk) 12:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Aldij: please check links before saving – you mean Category:Society by ethnicity. Well, that's true, but Category:Society of the Middle East and Category:Asian society by country use "Society of", and the subcats mostly use "in/of Kurdistan", so this does not seem eligible for speedy renaming. – Fayenatic London 12:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Video gamers to Category:Video game players – C2C: To match Category:Game players, which is not called "gamers". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Main article's title is Gamer. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 23:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- So you propose we change Category:Board game players and Category:Card game players to Category:Board gamers and Category:Card gamers? As the lead article says it includes them and we should have one consistent style. Gonnym (talk) 11:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I do not propose those other categories for name changing too. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- So you propose we change Category:Board game players and Category:Card game players to Category:Board gamers and Category:Card gamers? As the lead article says it includes them and we should have one consistent style. Gonnym (talk) 11:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Main article's title is Gamer. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 23:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- None currently
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Neo-Latin writers to Category:Writers in Neo-Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 01:01, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This is not very natural language. It is inconsistent with the same level categories "Classical Latin-language writers", "Latin-language writers of late antiquity", "Medieval Latin-language writers", "Old Latin-language writers", and "Renaissance Latin-language writers".
- This is because "Neo-Latin" etc are actually styles, that are associated with a period. Jim Killock (talk) 05:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Latin-language writers of late antiquity to Category:Writers of late antiquity in Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:57, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Very clumsy sounding Jim Killock (talk) 05:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Classical Latin-language writers to Category:Writers in Classical Latin – C2C: Parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Very clumsy sounding Jim Killock (talk) 05:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Old Latin-language writers to Category:Writers in Old Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Sounds clumsy. Same Jim Killock (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Renaissance Latin-language writers to Category:Renaissance writers in Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Sounds weird per others Jim Killock (talk) 05:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Medieval Latin-language writers to Category:Medieval writers in Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:39, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Same Jim Killock (talk) 05:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Same. These sound weird. Jim Killock (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock The parent Category:Writers in Latin by period and grandparent Category:Writers in Latin and other related categories were all renamed by consensus last year: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 7#Category:Latin-language writers. These are just logical follow-ups to that result. The reason we went for this formula is explained at length in that nom. NLeeuw (talk) 15:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- But these are not "by period"; they are "by style". This especially true for Neo-Latin. The periods and styles often coincide, but not precisely. Better would be to follow the styles defined in the articles, so:
- I've explained elsewhere that the periods and styles are not precise. For instance, a writer in the Renaissance may have employed Medieval Latin, or Renaissance Latin; and some may define their Renaissance Latin as Neo-Latin. These are stylistic boundaries which roughly match period, but it is the style, not the period, that determines their classifications. Jim Killock (talk) 19:50, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock I know. Category:14th-century Neo-Latin writers were a thing; it's good that you created that category. But I don't see how it would create a problem if we renamed it Category:14th-century writers in Neo-Latin. If anything, it is even clearer that "14th-century" refers to "writers" and not to "Neo-Latin", so that we shouldn't assume that the kind of Latin they wrote was Medieval Latin. This is all the more reason in favour of renaming, so that our readers understand the difference between style and period. NLeeuw (talk) 14:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is that the whole category structure is used to amalgamate and conflate these two ideas. I don't have an easy solution to it, that doesn't involve some work. It's reasonable to say that a C12th Medieval Latin writer used Medieval Latin, or a C20th writer uses Neo-Latin. Boundary centuries seem debateable. However, the structure makes an absolute assumption, that century and style are the same, except where I started to break it up. This has come up in two recent discussions, the other being when someone wanted to remove my boundary category. But it's clear that the intention was that Category:Classical Latin-language writers should contain Classical Latin writers, ie be a style category, not a time category. Likewise, Late Latin and Neo-Latin. There can be doubt about medieval Latin because of it seems to refer to a period rather than a style; however as it is a set of style categories we should assume it is about style, likewise for Renaissance Latin. The fact that the categories group information from centuries is a laziness, nothing more. In short it is a mess but it is only made worse by changing the names to appear to refer to time periods, some of which don't really exist (Classical Latin isn't a time, nor is Latin Latin, nor is Neo-Latin).
- Category:Writers in Classical Latin; Category:Writers in Neo-Latin - these all refer to a style; they are acceptable from that perspective, but they sounds strange / clumsy to my ear; the natural way to say is Category:Classical Latin writers, Category:Neo-Latin writers, or as close to that as WP allows.
- Taking one example to show why the suggested formulation can sound wrong. Category:Writers in Old Latin; Old Latin is recognised as a phase of Latin, rather than a "style" of Latin, so a bit different, but it functions the same. It is like Old English, not quite the same as Modern English. So, "writers in Old Latin" doesn't work because You [verb] in [language]; you don't [person] in [language]. It is either People writing in Old Latin or Old Latin writers. So Category:Old Latin writers sounds better, another option would be Category:Writers using Old Latin.
- Category:Renaissance writers in Latin; Category:Medieval writers in Latin - refer to a time period and remove the style names. These would need to be Category:Writers in Renaissance Latin; Category:Writers in Medieval Latin. This is not great English, most natural would be Category:Medieval Latin writers, Category: Renaissance Latin writers
- So there seems to be some inconsistency of approach in the current suggestion, as well as a somewhat clumsy use of "in" that isn't needed.
- It has taken me some time to pinpoint the issue with "in"; but I think it is because language can be either a noun or an adjective. When it is a style, describing how someone writes, "Classical Latin" etc, is an adjective. If "Classical Latin" is an adjective, then "in" shouldn't be used. If "Classical Latin" is a noun, as with "Classical Latin" the topic then "in" is possible, eg "Grammar in Classical Latin", or "They write in Classical Latin". As an adjective, it works as "Classical Latin writers". --Jim Killock (talk) 00:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose this will have to be moved to full then... NLeeuw (talk) 13:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 30#Category:Neo-Latin writers. NLeeuw (talk) 17:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose this will have to be moved to full then... NLeeuw (talk) 13:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock I know. Category:14th-century Neo-Latin writers were a thing; it's good that you created that category. But I don't see how it would create a problem if we renamed it Category:14th-century writers in Neo-Latin. If anything, it is even clearer that "14th-century" refers to "writers" and not to "Neo-Latin", so that we shouldn't assume that the kind of Latin they wrote was Medieval Latin. This is all the more reason in favour of renaming, so that our readers understand the difference between style and period. NLeeuw (talk) 14:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock The parent Category:Writers in Latin by period and grandparent Category:Writers in Latin and other related categories were all renamed by consensus last year: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 7#Category:Latin-language writers. These are just logical follow-ups to that result. The reason we went for this formula is explained at length in that nom. NLeeuw (talk) 15:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Baseball players in the United States by populated place to Category:Baseball players from the United States by populated place – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Baseball players by city or town in Taiwan to Category:Baseball players from Taiwan by populated place – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Baseball players by city or town in South Korea to Category:Baseball players from South Korea by populated place – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Baseball players by city or town in Puerto Rico to Category:Baseball players from Puerto Rico by populated place – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Baseball players by city or town in Canada to Category:Baseball players from Canada by populated place – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Baseball players by city or town in Australia to Category:Baseball players from Australia by populated place – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Baseball players by city or town in Mexico to Category:Baseball players from Mexico by populated place – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- C2C to what? Oppose until clarified. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Armbrust, clarify what precisely? The split should be at the end and the recent Cfd is that "by city and town" in categories, as @Smasongarrison will note, is now "by populated place". Also, WP:C2C because the subcategories are all titled "Baseball players from...". For example, "Category:Baseball players from New York City". Its the standard form. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- So I think part of the confusion is that there are multiple elements at play for each of the noms. Omnis it might help if you went through the noms to provide an example for each type. For just looking, I can see city or town -> populated place; moving the stems to the end, and changing people in city in COUNTRY to FOOian people. Aalthough I do agree that c2c does apply, it's a lot to unpack. Mason (talk) 20:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison, well there are two basic changes. One is moving the split to the end. The other is bringing them all to one form which is "Baseball players from Foo". I will list one from each category:
- U.S.: Category:Baseball players from New York City
- Taiwan: Category:Baseball players from Taipei
- South Korea: Category:Baseball players from Seoul
- Puerto Rico: Category:Baseball players from San Juan, Puerto Rico
- Canada: Category:Baseball players from Toronto
- Australia: Category:Baseball players from Melbourne
- Mexico: Category:Baseball players from Mexico City
- I hope this clears up any confusion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:04, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Armbrust, would appreciate a reply so this can either go through or go to full Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- The overwhelming majority of subcategories in Category:Sportspeople by country and populated place uses the “SPORTSPLAYER by city or town in COUNTRY” format (if it’s not about a specific location) and not the one proposed above. I’m not opposed to replacing “city or town” with “populated place”, but IMO rearranging the title of the categories shouldn’t be done speedily. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Armbrust, in which case they all should change. I will wait for the opinion of @Smasongarrison though before I go through with it since split should be at the end. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, should I take this to full Cfd or does the previous Cfd on "by populated place" apply here? Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:00, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's in line with others changes to actors etc. But a full cfd would allow us to do them all at once. 🤷 Mason (talk) 23:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: the outcome of a previous CfD isn't necessarily a speedy criterion. It only counts if a clear majority of categories were tackled in that CfD. Besides, considering the amount of discussion we already had here, I would take this to full CfD anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison, @Marcocapelle, thank you. Will do so. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- And I realize the form should actually be "Fooian sportspeople by populated place" so I can adjust accordingly there too. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- The overwhelming majority of subcategories in Category:Sportspeople by country and populated place uses the “SPORTSPLAYER by city or town in COUNTRY” format (if it’s not about a specific location) and not the one proposed above. I’m not opposed to replacing “city or town” with “populated place”, but IMO rearranging the title of the categories shouldn’t be done speedily. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Armbrust, would appreciate a reply so this can either go through or go to full Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison, well there are two basic changes. One is moving the split to the end. The other is bringing them all to one form which is "Baseball players from Foo". I will list one from each category:
- So I think part of the confusion is that there are multiple elements at play for each of the noms. Omnis it might help if you went through the noms to provide an example for each type. For just looking, I can see city or town -> populated place; moving the stems to the end, and changing people in city in COUNTRY to FOOian people. Aalthough I do agree that c2c does apply, it's a lot to unpack. Mason (talk) 20:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Armbrust, clarify what precisely? The split should be at the end and the recent Cfd is that "by city and town" in categories, as @Smasongarrison will note, is now "by populated place". Also, WP:C2C because the subcategories are all titled "Baseball players from...". For example, "Category:Baseball players from New York City". Its the standard form. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- C2C to what? Oppose until clarified. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: this is now in the "moved to full discussion" section but a full discussion hasn't been started yet. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, no idea who did moved it to "full disciussion" - I had moved it to "pending other discussions" while the parent categories were changed from "City or town" to "populated place". Then I was going to bring this to full. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: this is now in the "moved to full discussion" section but a full discussion hasn't been started yet. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- If you look at Category:American sportspeople by sport and populated place, most of these categories are titled "Sportsplayers by populated place in country" not "Sportsplayers in/from county by populated place". Liz Read! Talk! 17:41, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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