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*'''Delete''' The article is Political and inadequately supported by references to Peer reviewed evaluations. This kind of article brings down the standing of the Wikipedia enterprise to the level of a partisan political tabloid. It is best to delete it as it is now in an unrecoverable state.[[User:Bodhi dhana|Bodhi dhana]] 14:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' The article is Political and inadequately supported by references to Peer reviewed evaluations. This kind of article brings down the standing of the Wikipedia enterprise to the level of a partisan political tabloid. It is best to delete it as it is now in an unrecoverable state.[[User:Bodhi dhana|Bodhi dhana]] 14:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep and Improve''' Wikipedia ADMINISTRATORS, please do not remove this article. If you look at the person/people who created this nomination you can see that they are on a mission of [[Ethnic Cleansing]] of tamil articles in wikipedia and hiding/distorting the truth. In his page it says the person is male/supports srilankan troops/opposes LTTE, how can anything coming form this person in articles concerning the war be neutral NPOV. He should be editing other articles where he has no personal interest in. (this is not a personal attack, it is an obeservation and recommendation) --[[User:12345ka|12345ka]] 15:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC) |
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State terrorism in Sri Lanka
- State terrorism in Sri Lanka (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
No independent organization which will qualify as a reliable source has ever called these incidents "State Terrorism". There simply are no citations given in this articles as such. All citations provided merely establish the occurrence of the given events, and not that they are so called acts of "State terrorism". To be very clear, and I hope everyone understands this, I am not disputing whether the incidents took place or not as mentioned in the article, but that categorizing them as "State terrorism" is the POV of individual Wikipedia editors. Also note that there is absolutely no proof that the government played a direct role in any of these incident. Most allegations are mere hearsay, and in any case, the acts of individual military personal cannot be called as "state sponsored". That makes this article a clear violation of a number of Wikipedia policies including WP:NPOV , WP:V and especially WP:OR which explicitly states
- Original research is a term used in Wikipedia to refer to material that has not been published by a reliable source... Articles may not contain any unpublished arguments, ideas, data, or theories; or any unpublished analysis or synthesis of published arguments, ideas, data, or theories that serves to advance a position. (unpublished meaning not published by a RS).
As per these policies, Wikipedia editors cannot arbitrarily decide to call these incidents "State terrorism" and create such an article, and therefore the article should be deleted. snowolfD4( talk / @ ) 13:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Conjecture should be highly discouraged. The effort to "connect the dots" across multiple incidents without reliable sourcing is counterproductive. --Aarktica 13:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. I see some refferences in the article, that mean is not original research.--MariusM 14:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah only 6 sources for the whole article :-) --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ walkie-talkie 14:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- And even those only allege state terrorism. Hardly any credible info on "State Terrorism" conducted by SLGOV there.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pubuman (talk • contribs)
- Actually if you read the sources, there are many human rights groups which state the Sri Lankan Army was behind these massacres. And since they are controlled by the state and commiting terrorist acts... is it not state terrorism? Thusiyan 19:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- And even those only allege state terrorism. Hardly any credible info on "State Terrorism" conducted by SLGOV there.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pubuman (talk • contribs)
- Delete I agree with Snowfold, additionally the so called "refernces" on most occasions do not adhere to the wikipedia policy of reliable sources.Pubuman 14:26, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
*Keep please delete this article along with the holocaust, these never happened and have no connection with the government!! also read holocaust denial.--131.111.235.31 16:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Note: Administration will decide on anon messages.Lustead 16:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep I too feel, this article should be deleted along with the holocaust as these have never happened or have no connection with the Nazi government!! I also suggest to read holocaust denial.Lustead 16:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Above user is a single issue person with absolutely no good contribution to wikipedia. for a new user ,he seems to know quite a lot of inside inside work of Wikipedia.I haven't seen that from a newbie at all!! As we see from his above remarks ,this person has shown us he is here for only one reason, spread anti Sinhalese/Sri Lankan sentiments. His total lack of knowledge of present situation in SL,or even Nazi holocaust for that matter, is highly comical.I would like to ask Admins to take a good look at his contributions and his record, before counting his vote.
- thanksIwazaki 会話。討論 09:40, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- You can never compare any incident happening in Sri Lanka to Nazi holocaust. It is infamous that terrorists and underworld gangsters are behind this. Nirvanatoday 17:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Have you any evidence to support your argument?Lustead 17:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- So do you have any evidence break Nirvanatoday's argument? If yes pls go ahead and cite that on the article. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ walkie-talkie 17:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Available evidences and the circumstances are leaning to Government / Forces or the negligence of them to prevent those incidents.Lustead 17:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- It is a true fact that the Sri Lankan Army committed some horrible massacres. Again, they are controlled by the state, thus this is state terrorism. And yes there are dozens of human rights group and witnesses who have placed blame firmly on the armed forces. Pinning the blame on "underworld gangsters" is foolish.Thusiyan 19:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Available evidences and the circumstances are leaning to Government / Forces or the negligence of them to prevent those incidents.Lustead 17:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- So do you have any evidence break Nirvanatoday's argument? If yes pls go ahead and cite that on the article. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ walkie-talkie 17:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Have you any evidence to support your argument?Lustead 17:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- You can never compare any incident happening in Sri Lanka to Nazi holocaust. It is infamous that terrorists and underworld gangsters are behind this. Nirvanatoday 17:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - I strongly feel that somebody or some organization is behind this! Recent events unfolded in International arena of politics, I feel SLGOV is doing the best governance comparing to other governments. Taking into account of the reliability of this article, you have a limited number of ref and most of them are also unreliable sources. Nirvanatoday 17:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Comment The subject is on State terrorism in Sri Lanka and not the governance of the present government.Lustead 17:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. Definitely keep. The fact of the matter is, there are elements of the state behind these events, such as Black July. The massacres committed by the Sri Lankan Army, in essence is state terrorism! The facts are, the state has been behind riots. There can be no argument with that. Another fact is, the Sri Lankan Army has committed human rights abuses, which since they are state controlled, amount to STATE TERRORISM. There should be no question over whether this should be deleted or not. Deleting it would really be a big mistake. Thusiyan 18:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep these "State terrorism in Fooland" articles are kept by precedent. Clean it up if necessary, but don't delete it. Carlossuarez46 00:26, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep and Improve Reliable sources exist and can be utilised successfully, I would like to highlight the success of other similar pages in maintaining a strong NPOV and verified article. --Sharz 04:28, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletions. -- ⇒ bsnowball 11:43, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletions. -- ⇒ bsnowball 11:43, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. Sinharaja2002 13:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete The article is Political and inadequately supported by references to Peer reviewed evaluations. This kind of article brings down the standing of the Wikipedia enterprise to the level of a partisan political tabloid. It is best to delete it as it is now in an unrecoverable state.Bodhi dhana 14:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep and Improve Wikipedia ADMINISTRATORS, please do not remove this article. If you look at the person/people who created this nomination you can see that they are on a mission of Ethnic Cleansing of tamil articles in wikipedia and hiding/distorting the truth. In his page it says the person is male/supports srilankan troops/opposes LTTE, how can anything coming form this person in articles concerning the war be neutral NPOV. He should be editing other articles where he has no personal interest in. (this is not a personal attack, it is an obeservation and recommendation) --12345ka 15:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)