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Hi Willwill0415, the recent [[Special:Permalink/858612576#'Incel'_Article_Ownership_and_Neutrality_Dispute|arbitration case request]] has been declined. For the Arbitration Committee, '''[[User:L235|Kevin]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235|L235]] '''·'''  [[User talk:L235#top|t]] '''·'''  [[Special:Contribs/L235|c]]) 19:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC) |
Hi Willwill0415, the recent [[Special:Permalink/858612576#'Incel'_Article_Ownership_and_Neutrality_Dispute|arbitration case request]] has been declined. For the Arbitration Committee, '''[[User:L235|Kevin]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235|L235]] '''·'''  [[User talk:L235#top|t]] '''·'''  [[Special:Contribs/L235|c]]) 19:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC) |
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* I believe that the disruption that led to this topic-ban was not ''intentional'' but rather a result of your strong feelings about the subject and inexperience with editing wikipedia. Therefore, if after you have edited ''other'' topics constructively and become more familiar with wikipedia's content and conduct policies, and with appropriate use of dispute-resolution processes, you are interested in having the topic-ban lifted, I could support it (say, after a minimum of six months). However, in the meantime your contributions in this already treacherous area is not, IMO, in the best interest of the project or the project-members developing and maintaining related articles. [[User:Abecedare|Abecedare]] ([[User talk:Abecedare|talk]]) 02:49, 30 September 2018 (UTC) |
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Quick tip, but it seems like you might be adding your signature manually. If you type ~~~~ at the end of your talk page comments, the signature and timestamp will be added automatically. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:15, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
- thx, I'm just forgetting to add it sometimes, I was using it Willwill0415 (talk) 03:16, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Reverts
Please see WP:BRD for how we typically edit pages. You boldly changed the content of the page, Dave Dial and I both reverted it in various ways—at this point we need to discuss the changes before just adding them back. Continuing to re-add the changes without establishing consensus on the talk page may result in administrative action being taken, as it's extremely disruptive to the editing process. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:18, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Your vote here
I think you misvoted here. I think you mean to vote Strong Support, but accidentally voted Strong Oppose. Those supporting the move to Incel are saying that the topic about Involuntary celibacy currently written is about the fringe subculture not the historic concept. The topic stored in my sandbox is closer to the actual academic topic. The current version only talks about the recent fringe group. Valoem talk contrib 15:16, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
- "the topic about Involuntary celibacy currently written is about the fringe subculture not the historic concept" I agree. Will the involuntary celibacy page stay up, or where will there be a page for the actual academic topic if this page is moved? Also, "incel" is just short for involuntary celibate. Making an article called "incel" all about blackpill culture will continue to falsely assume that all communities that use the term "incel" follow blackpill ideology (or "fringe subculture"). Willwill0415 (talk) 15:27, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
- It does appear that those who identify as incels follow the blackpill ideology. Frankly I think even a redirect to Incel from involuntary celibacy is inappropriate. In answer to you question you can find the history here, so probably no. Valoem talk contrib 15:53, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
- "It does appear that those who identify as incels follow the blackpill ideology" Not on Alana's old board and it's successors, not on love-shy.net (the oldest incel forum still up), not on Facebook. So if the page is moved, the academic topic won't be on Wikipedia? In that case I keep my strong oppose. Willwill0415 (talk) 16:45, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
- It does appear that those who identify as incels follow the blackpill ideology. Frankly I think even a redirect to Incel from involuntary celibacy is inappropriate. In answer to you question you can find the history here, so probably no. Valoem talk contrib 15:53, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
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Careful
You are new here, so you might not be aware of the "three revert rule" which limits the number of times you can revert someone else's actions. WP:3RR Violating it can get you banned or restricted. Please be aware of it when reverting other people's edits on "Involutary Celebacy" Marteau (talk) 04:15, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Incel edit
Regarding this edit you made to Incel with the summary incels.me publicly available internal demographic research shows incels on the site are about half non-white, the SPLC has turned into a liberal feminist political lobby organization too biased for the intro of any article
: both the incels.me study and the SPLC study have been discussed at length on Talk:Incel. The incels.me link is nowhere near a reliable source, and there has not been consensus at either Talk:Incel or WP:RSN that the SPLC is unacceptable as a source, as you claim. Please do not try to use these sources in the article without further discussion.
It would be useful if you tried to discuss some of your changes at the talk page, since your edits are removing/replacing large amounts of cited content. At the very least, do not re-add your changes when asked to discuss on the talk page; it's against policy. GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:32, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- People removed large amounts of my cited content without going to the talk page to reiterate something they've already gone to the talk page before about, but I never complained about it because some people seem immune to these rules. Also, brought up some stuff that hasn't been talked about before on the talk page, you put in a response to it. Just putting it here for record. Willwill0415 (talk) 17:11, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Arb Case
The best case scenario is that it will be closed quickly. I'd suggest withdrawing it before it attracts too much attention. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:21, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Alert
This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.
You have recently shown interest in (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect: any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or any page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.
For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.
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RFAR declined
Hi Willwill0415, the recent arbitration case request has been declined. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 19:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction
The following sanction now applies to you:
You are topic-banned from articles and discussions related to gender-related movements, controversies and disputes
You have been sanctioned for disruptive editing at Incel, its talkpage, and related discussions, and for not absorbing the feedback you have received in related wikispace disussions
This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Abecedare (talk) 02:49, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Notes:
- The topic-area covered by the ban is broadly construed and will, for example, include edits to Toronto van attack. Please ask me or another uninvolved admin if you are not sure if a particular article/discussion would be covered by the ban.
- I believe that the disruption that led to this topic-ban was not intentional but rather a result of your strong feelings about the subject and inexperience with editing wikipedia. Therefore, if after you have edited other topics constructively and become more familiar with wikipedia's content and conduct policies, and with appropriate use of dispute-resolution processes, you are interested in having the topic-ban lifted, I could support it (say, after a minimum of six months). However, in the meantime your contributions in this already treacherous area is not, IMO, in the best interest of the project or the project-members developing and maintaining related articles. Abecedare (talk) 02:49, 30 September 2018 (UTC)