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::::Unnamed anon, I have no comment on whether you're edit warring in the essay but I should warn you that whatever happened with your previous experience you've either misunderstood or were misinformed. You '''do not''' get to make 3 reverts or 5 reverts, and even repeatedly making on revert can be edit warring. Besides the 3RR bright line, there is no clear definition of edit warring, but what you describe definitely could be edit warring and blockable edit warring in the right circumstances. I strongly suggest you change how you edit and stop assuming it's fine to make 3 reverts or 5 reverts or even 1 revert repeatedly since if you keep at it there's a fair chance you will be blocked over it eventually and your excuse that your were told it wasn't edit warring when some other editor did it once is not likely to fly. Especially now that you've been told you are wrong. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 11:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC) |
::::Unnamed anon, I have no comment on whether you're edit warring in the essay but I should warn you that whatever happened with your previous experience you've either misunderstood or were misinformed. You '''do not''' get to make 3 reverts or 5 reverts, and even repeatedly making on revert can be edit warring. Besides the 3RR bright line, there is no clear definition of edit warring, but what you describe definitely could be edit warring and blockable edit warring in the right circumstances. I strongly suggest you change how you edit and stop assuming it's fine to make 3 reverts or 5 reverts or even 1 revert repeatedly since if you keep at it there's a fair chance you will be blocked over it eventually and your excuse that your were told it wasn't edit warring when some other editor did it once is not likely to fly. Especially now that you've been told you are wrong. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 11:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::{{re|Nil Einne}}, understood about what constitutes as edit warring. I'll try to fix that. [[User:Unnamed anon|Unnamed anon]] ([[User talk:Unnamed anon#top|talk]]) 15:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC) |
:::::{{re|Nil Einne}}, understood about what constitutes as edit warring. I'll try to fix that. [[User:Unnamed anon|Unnamed anon]] ([[User talk:Unnamed anon#top|talk]]) 15:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC) |
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I think your username is misleading. I think you should either change it or make your signature show that it is your username. – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 06:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- How is my username misleading? An actual unregistered user would just be an IP address, which is just a bunch of numbers. Unnamed anon (talk) 06:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well I got confused, I thought an IP user attempted to hide username poorly. – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 10:02, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
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As you archived the thread before I could reply, Schnapp does not say "Will is not gay" in the source you linked. He said it's "open to interpretation", and whether or not Will is gay is "beside the point", and questioned whether liking certain things makes one gay. It's not an explicit denial, which is what I sought after you claimed so. As I said, this was not the point anyway. Claiming Schnapp said Will is not gay when he didn't explicitly say so and claiming Technoblade's tweet was "not proven to exist" when it's still up on Twitter are to me hot takes. Also, you misinterpreted what I said. I said you have received more notices about sanctions applying to all editors editing in controversial topic areas than I had ever seen. I didn't say sanctions applying to you only. But you have also received a lot of guidance from editors based on your apparent heated arguments with others over controversial topics, and I'm saying you need to be careful going forward. It's not bad advice, it's good because from a glance at your contributions, since registering you have gone to a lot of divisive topic areas in the news. If it's all an editor does, and with a name like "Unnamed anon", it looks like trying to stir up arguments for the sake of it. I reiterate: I don't think "be careful with doing this" is bad advice based on what I see. Ss112 07:17, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's fair advice, thanks. Sorry that I misread your other one. Unnamed anon (talk) 07:25, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Time to eat your words and step back from removing anything about Will's sexuality from Stranger Things articles. Straight from Noah Schnapp's mouth, "Now it's 100% clear that he is gay and he does love Mike." He even admits that it was "obviously hinted at" as early as season one. I really do hope you are telling the truth when you say you don't have something against mentions of characters as LGBT or using LGBT sources on Wikipedia. Ss112 03:06, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
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January 2023
Your comments at WP:RFPP regarding your request for protection of List of Rick and Morty characters are obnoxious. There is no reason for you to post such comments anywhere on Wikipedia. If I see you do this again, you risk being blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:19, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: I admit I should have controlled my anger. However, did you actually check the diffs I linked on the request for protection, or did you deny it because of my admittedly obnoxious behavior (I felt like this was the only way to reach these IPs who refuse to read the hidden note and discuss on the talk page)? The level of disruption is genuinely really, really bad. When you see other angry comments I made, for which I apologize, those were before your warning. Unnamed anon (talk) 17:38, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
July 2023
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Diary of a Wimpy Kid (2010 film). Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:05, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- Per MOS:FILM, "
The overall critical reception to a film should be supported by attributions to reliable sources that summarize reviews; do not synthesize individual reviews. Avoid weasel words. If any form of paraphrasing is disputed, quote the source directly.
". Per WP:BURDEN, "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.
". Rotten Tomatoes directly contradicts your statement, and it is unsourced. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:07, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
You seriously need to stop posting your own personal synthesis that directly contradicts what some of the sources say, as you did in this edit. This film did not receive mixed reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, so you can't say that it received mixed reviews just because one aggregator out of the two cited in the article said it was mixed. This is undue weight and cherry picking. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:10, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- The only one adding undue weight is you, for mentioning specific aggregate sites in the lede. Read it again.
Undue weight can be given in several ways, including but not limited to the depth of detail, the quantity of text, prominence of placement…
and, as I have made it very clear already, I do not appreciate the accusation of this being "my opinion". In the case of Pirates of the Caribbean 4 though, I can see that 33% is very low, and am willing to call that movie as having mixed-to-negative reviews. Unnamed anon (talk) 03:47, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
August 2023
Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, you may be blocked from editing. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- What the heck are you talking about? Since your last message on my talk page, I agreed that 33% was too low to call it mixed. Although does not solve the problem of mentioning aggregate sites by name in the lede, I agreed with you that 33% was too low. I didn't add original research to that page at all since your last post; in fact since your last post I didn't add anything at all, I only removed content that was undue. Unnamed anon (talk) 02:59, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Special:Diff/1168156326 was rightly reverted as synthesis an hour after Special:Diff/1168142632. MOS:FILM is pretty clear that a summary in the lead must "
reflect an overall consensus explicitly summarized by one or more reliable sources
" without synthesizing something that none of them say. WP:NPOV is also pretty clear that "when reputable sources contradict one another and are relatively equal in prominence, describe both points of view and work for balance
". This means not making up a synthy mash-up of their views but stating what their views are. There is also a general dislike of phrases like "mixed to negative" across various WikiProjects. See WP:VG/MIXED for an example from another project which probably should be copy-pasted into WikiProject's Film's MOS, too (or moved to a more general MOS page). NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:41, 2 August 2023 (UTC)- Oh, that edit, yes. I actually eventually agreed with Betty Logan that "mixed-to-negative" was unencyclopedic if you read my edit summary after hers. While I still do not appreciate the block warning for something I had conceded and came to an agreement in, I do appreciate you pointing out your specific concern here. Thank you. Unnamed anon (talk) 03:48, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Special:Diff/1168156326 was rightly reverted as synthesis an hour after Special:Diff/1168142632. MOS:FILM is pretty clear that a summary in the lead must "
Hi, while you may not like the presence of slang, it is not considered disqualifying for a reliable source. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 22:17, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
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List of Teen Titans episodes
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That one essay you don't like
I'm going to repeat what I said in my revert of you: You obviously and transparently disapprove of this essay. That's fine, but after the deletion discussion ended in "keep", I've seen you consistently attempting to remove the stuff you don't like through regular editing. Occasionally by deleting entire sections and more generally by removing bullet-points that contain information you dislike. Editing other people's essays is fine, but I don't think trying to undermine an essay you don't like through edits after outright removal has failed can be described as anything other than disruptive behaviour, and I'm asking you to cut it out now, before I have to get mods involved over edit warring. Thanks in advance. --Licks-rocks (talk) 11:20, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Licks-rocks: First, I haven't been edit warring. It's three reverts for a war, and generally I have either taken it to discussion or dropped the stick after it was reverted once. Secondly, how the hell is editing an essay I don't like "disruptive"? The reason why I don't like the essay is that I feel a lot of it is casting aspersions, and removing those aspersions would make the essay be less likely to be abused. I have seen some essays wrongly cited as Wikipedia policy, and if this essay would also be wrongly cited as policy I do not want real debates to be taken as bigotry, nor do I want to see good faith editors blocked for taking a neutral stance instead of taking a clear side. It's telling that my edits from before the MfD concluded are what caused several people to strike their !delete votes, as before my edits, the essay was too accusatory and broad, and frankly was very close to being a personal attack. I do not see a problem with continuing to improve the page even after the deletion discussion has ended; as I said in the MfD, I'm not upset that the page remained up, but my opinion on the page will shift back to a negative view if editors try to adding back their loose definitions of queerphobia and mixing it with actual bigotry again. Unnamed anon (talk) 18:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well, it's good I didn't mainly accuse you of edit warring then. I also accused you of disruptive editing. Your arguments below that are a rehash of what you said at MfD in the hopes of getting the whole article deleted, which just goes to support my point that you're now trying to achieve your desired result for that MfD through other means. Additionally, Edit warring refers to a broader category of behaviour than just 3RR, there's also things like slow edit warring. Your repeated removals of various parts of that essay, only to get reverted and do the same thing to another part, definitely qualifies. Again: cut it out. --Licks-rocks (talk) 20:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- A while ago, I experienced an editor repeatedly (at least 5 times) reverting a page to his desired revision every month or two that removed valid content despite it a prior discussion that the content was valid. I reported that as edit warring, and it wasn't considered as warring. So if that wasn't warring, neither is what I'm doing, because I take it to discussion after being reverted once or twice. I also am getting the impression that you are assuming bad faith because I'm
trying to achieve your desired result for that MfD through other means
. My desired result for the MfD was to prevent false aspersions, and you are correct that this is the reason I am editing the article. I do not see what is wrong with trying to get a compromise though; as you saw, several editors removed their !delete votes because my edits were overall improvements to make it less accusatory. I see nothing wrong with continuing to remove accusations even after the MfD ended. I'd also like to address your thought that Iobviously disagree with the premise of the essay
; no, I don't. That's another part in a long line of assuming bad faith by making shit up about me, and if you do this again I may have to report you to mods as well. I have repeatedly said that queerphobia is hate and that it shouldn't be allowed; the problem was the list of what editors considered hateful, which, as I've stated many times, I do not want good faith edits to be lumped in with real hate. Yes, this is a repeat of my MfD argument, and that's because it still holds up. Unnamed anon (talk) 21:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)- I never assume bad faith. I prefer to describe behaviour instead, and I never make claims about behaviour that I can't back up. I'm incredibly careful about that. You've admitted to "trying to achieve your desired result for that MfD through other means." several times already. You did it in this very comment immediately after you accused me of assuming bad faith over it.
bviously disagree with the premise of the essay; no, I don't"
Yes you do, you've been pretty clear about that. And you need to stop. --Licks-rocks (talk) 22:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)- Unnamed anon, I have no comment on whether you're edit warring in the essay but I should warn you that whatever happened with your previous experience you've either misunderstood or were misinformed. You do not get to make 3 reverts or 5 reverts, and even repeatedly making on revert can be edit warring. Besides the 3RR bright line, there is no clear definition of edit warring, but what you describe definitely could be edit warring and blockable edit warring in the right circumstances. I strongly suggest you change how you edit and stop assuming it's fine to make 3 reverts or 5 reverts or even 1 revert repeatedly since if you keep at it there's a fair chance you will be blocked over it eventually and your excuse that your were told it wasn't edit warring when some other editor did it once is not likely to fly. Especially now that you've been told you are wrong. Nil Einne (talk) 11:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Nil Einne:, understood about what constitutes as edit warring. I'll try to fix that. Unnamed anon (talk) 15:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- A while ago, I experienced an editor repeatedly (at least 5 times) reverting a page to his desired revision every month or two that removed valid content despite it a prior discussion that the content was valid. I reported that as edit warring, and it wasn't considered as warring. So if that wasn't warring, neither is what I'm doing, because I take it to discussion after being reverted once or twice. I also am getting the impression that you are assuming bad faith because I'm
- Well, it's good I didn't mainly accuse you of edit warring then. I also accused you of disruptive editing. Your arguments below that are a rehash of what you said at MfD in the hopes of getting the whole article deleted, which just goes to support my point that you're now trying to achieve your desired result for that MfD through other means. Additionally, Edit warring refers to a broader category of behaviour than just 3RR, there's also things like slow edit warring. Your repeated removals of various parts of that essay, only to get reverted and do the same thing to another part, definitely qualifies. Again: cut it out. --Licks-rocks (talk) 20:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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