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I agree with your point, but don't you see the irony in you closing the motion to close? Thanks for making me smile :o) Merry Christmas. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><small><span style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:#FF6600;">~~ [[User:Dr Dec|<span style="color:#006600;">Dr Dec</span>]] <span style="color:#009999;">([[User talk:Dr Dec|Talk]])</span> ~~</span></small></span> 23:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
I agree with your point, but don't you see the irony in you closing the motion to close? Thanks for making me smile :o) Merry Christmas. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><small><span style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:#FF6600;">~~ [[User:Dr Dec|<span style="color:#006600;">Dr Dec</span>]] <span style="color:#009999;">([[User talk:Dr Dec|Talk]])</span> ~~</span></small></span> 23:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
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:Also, I've just noticed that you're not a bureaucrat<sup><span class="plainlinks">[http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/isAdmin/index.php?user=Sswonk&group=bureaucrat]</span></sup>; you're not even an admin<sup><span class="plainlinks">[http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/isAdmin/index.php?user=Sswonk&group=sysop]</span></sup>. So wasn't it a bit naughty of you to start archiving discussions? Can I archive anything that I don't like the look of? <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><small><span style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:#FF6600;">~~ [[User:Dr Dec|<span style="color:#006600;">Dr Dec</span>]] <span style="color:#009999;">([[User talk:Dr Dec|Talk]])</span> ~~</span></small></span> 23:16, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
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Hello from Sswonk
Thank you for visiting my talk, and thanks for adding your remarkable talents to the Wikipedia project. I welcome any and all comments. I will maintain any feedback without regard to how it makes me look; I have blundered more than once here in Wikispace and want any help I can get to rectify and clarify my beloved topics. Thanks, and enjoy!
Metropolitan Park System of Greater Boston
I recently started a stub article at Metropolitan Park System of Greater Boston which seeks to cover the entire system of parks under the DCR Division of Urban Parks and Recreation as defined at http://www.mass.gov/dcr/metroboston.htm. This is a very well defined and limited list with a unique history. The DCR summary puts it well:
This system was the first regional organization of public open space in the United States and is internationally recognized as a model for multi-jurisdictional park systems designed to encourage public appreciation of open space. As a whole, the Metropolitan Park System is currently eligible for listing on the National Register of Historic Places.[1]
I have asked several editors to comment on the possibility of creating a subproject with a goal of improving existing articles, creating needed articles and coordinating overlapping concerns of other projects such as WP:MASS, WP:USRD and WP:NRHP which have an interest in many of the topics covered by the articles. I also created the navbox at {{Metropolitan Park System of Greater Boston}} which is as comprehensive as I can determine at this time. Please add your questions and comments below this note. Sswonk (talk) 05:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, glad u r coordinating this. In the current Metropolitan Park System of Greater Boston article there is a pic labelled "Charles River Esplanade" which shows the water more than the walkway/esplanade, while I always thot the esplanade was the land / the walkway. I think i might have played/organized ultimate frisbee there once. Looks good though, keep up the good work! doncram (talk) 07:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- It sounds great to me although I don't have too much knowledge about the park system. I'm looking forward to see the subproject develop. Swampyank (talk) 18:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, and thanks for the invite for this new collaboration. I don't know a great deal about this gentlman but there's always room to research more and to contribute through researching this topic. In terms of the photo of the esplanade. Check on Wikicommons. I keep finding all kinds of stuff on there. Start with the Massachusetts category and work your way down. You can find some really impressive stuff that people have put on there which currently doesn't link to any articles. Like just today while creating a link from Logan Airport to it's matching Wikicommons category I came across a photo of the Hatshell. There's also one category of the Esplanade CaribDigita (talk) 04:22, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Maps, etc
So my next article is going to be Park Drive and I am already about as far as I think I can take it, so could you possibly create a map for it please? It's weird, I feel like every source neglects it. It was built at the same time as the Fenway, but not really considered one of the parkways in the same sense that the Riverway, Jamaicaway, and Arborway are as far as I can tell. It was originally named Audubon Road, but I can't narrow down when the name change occurred as well as when the parking lane was created besides a ten year time frame. Was it originally a two way road with each side separated by a median? (and then one way turned into the parking lane?) I don't know and can't find any info on it. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 02:33, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- File:Park Drive Boston.png. This took under a half-hour only because it is simply the same map as Fenway with the color and stroke weight of the streets swapped, any other roads will likely take much longer as the map will need to be created from scratch. Sswonk (talk) 03:03, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Would it be possible to connect the ends on the right since the split is in the right of way of Park Drive and also extend the end on the left to Mountford Street? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 03:25, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Alright thanks. It doesn't seem to have updated though. I even purged the page a few times. It's weird because my cropped version of the Riverway photo I took still hasn't shown up right almost a week later. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 04:01, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Depending on browser, you may need to clear your cache, and possibly purge and then clear cache again. Happens all the time, the change was visible on my browser (Firefox 3.5) after reloading holding the shift key. I did that with the Riverway image, it is now OK. Sswonk (talk) 04:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
It seems that you didn't fix the Park Drive map. I cleared my cache for that and sent to a friend to check. Park Drive ends at Mountfort Street right near at the Mass Pike, not its intersection with Beacon Street. Also can you connect the lines on the eastern end since there is a connection there considered part of Park Drive. Thanks. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 17:36, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Done on the west end, in making the previous change in which I used the (Boston streets) layer, that portion was below a higher layer used for highlighting Route 2, which caused me not to see it. That wouldn't have happened if I had made the map from a new GIS base instead of altering the Fenway vector file as I did. The fact that the far west portion of Park Drive beyond Beacon is part of Massachusetts Route 2 needs to be mentioned in the article. Regarding the two roadways at the east end of Park Drive, they are separated by a small stretch of Peterborough Street, so that stays the same. The closest possible zoom level on Google Maps satellite view shows that they label it correctly at that zoom. I purged the file at Commons, it should be fine but clear your cache if it doesn't update properly for you. Sswonk (talk) 22:28, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 23:18, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Furnace Brook Parkway
Hello! Your submission of Furnace Brook Parkway at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Calmer Waters 09:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- I've read your message and will check the matter shortly. One thing I should say before looking into this (I've not seen this nom before) - CW and Ucucha are among the best DYK reviewers; try to listen to their criticism even if it appears incorrect. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 23:59, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Honestly, I haven't even started reading your article :-) You've got a scientist, Ucucha, on your back :-) Seriously, the requirement for the hook which we put on the main page are stringent, because many people take it as a solid fact and bomb us with questions then. Strictly speaking, the same should apply to the article too (it is an encyclopedia, after all, not an essay), but in reality, there is space for speculations and their explanation in the article. Surely, there are areas where we never know the truth and have to guess, but wherever we can find a source, we better go for it. Another thing, one can always carefully describe speculation in the article, but it is very difficult to do so in a 200-char hook. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 02:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have reevaluated the nomination and provided feedback after you updated the [2] inline cite. I understand that the vetting process of promoting a hook can sometimes be flusterating. Your explaination of the name conventions of roads was something I was unfamiliar with IMO is sound, as AGF is one of the core standards of Wikipedia just as no orginal research is. I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to write such a well written article and nominating it at DYK. Kindly Calmer Waters 04:27, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you, I appreciate very much your detailed comments. I became defensive at the mention of original research as I have made it my goal this year to pursue all avenues of avoiding OR and strengthen citations where I can. I have also made adjustments to the linked article, John Winthrop, Jr. Iron Furnace Site, with those goals at least partly satisfied there. Sswonk (talk) 04:39, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have reevaluated the nomination and provided feedback after you updated the [2] inline cite. I understand that the vetting process of promoting a hook can sometimes be flusterating. Your explaination of the name conventions of roads was something I was unfamiliar with IMO is sound, as AGF is one of the core standards of Wikipedia just as no orginal research is. I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to write such a well written article and nominating it at DYK. Kindly Calmer Waters 04:27, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Honestly, I haven't even started reading your article :-) You've got a scientist, Ucucha, on your back :-) Seriously, the requirement for the hook which we put on the main page are stringent, because many people take it as a solid fact and bomb us with questions then. Strictly speaking, the same should apply to the article too (it is an encyclopedia, after all, not an essay), but in reality, there is space for speculations and their explanation in the article. Surely, there are areas where we never know the truth and have to guess, but wherever we can find a source, we better go for it. Another thing, one can always carefully describe speculation in the article, but it is very difficult to do so in a 200-char hook. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 02:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Furnace Brook Parkway
Materialscientist (talk) 03:28, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
You've this one coming to you ...
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For your tireless work on Quincy-based articles generally, and particularly for your excellent new DYK on Furnace Brook Parkway. RGTraynor 11:32, 13 December 2009 (UTC) |
- Thanks, RG. You deserve much credit for advising me on things in my early days here. I am slowly plowing through the entire system of parks, check WT:MPTF for a navbox of this nascent effort. Thanks again – Sswonk (talk) 16:20, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Southwest Corridor Park
Materialscientist (talk) 11:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree with your point, but don't you see the irony in you closing the motion to close? Thanks for making me smile :o) Merry Christmas. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 23:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)