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I just get a little weary of how he spouts gibberish in one AFD after another that rarely if ever rises above the level of "let's keep it, it's neat" and almost never actually addresses the merits of the nomination. What's scary is he claims to be a teacher, and this is the level of logic and argumentation he brings. I feel sorry for his students. [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] 17:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
I just get a little weary of how he spouts gibberish in one AFD after another that rarely if ever rises above the level of "let's keep it, it's neat" and almost never actually addresses the merits of the nomination. What's scary is he claims to be a teacher, and this is the level of logic and argumentation he brings. I feel sorry for his students. [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] 17:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:I agree with Otto here. [[User:RobJ1981|RobJ1981]] 13:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
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You article about the overuse of the line "Let's get out of here," while humorous, is unfortunately in violation of Wikipedia guidelines on original research. It appears you have compiled this list yourself, and have not cited sources from which you've drawn your list. I'm assuming much of it came from your personal movie-watching. If you can provide citations of documented sources for the various movies in which this line is used, that would likely bring this article into compliance. Otherwise, the article may face an article for deletion review process. Realkyhick 07:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- (Response) I anticipated this, but it's not intended as a facetious article. (If I can get to the article again, I'll add the sources, which were from books and from imsdb.com, and I'll delete the M.L. Ford part); Coincidentally, I, too, am a real Kentucky hick, though I still live here.
- The prevalence of "let's get out of here" is noted not just in the Guinness "Film Facts & Feats" book (Patrick Robertson, 1985), but on commentaries that go with films, such as DVD-TV on AMC. Did I sit and watch all these movies myself? Of course not. I referred to the Internet Movie Script Database (imsdb.com).
- The research is no less original than the numerous articles about a TV episode from some new TV series. And don't get me started about how every other article seems to feature a cultural reference to "The Simpsons". Geez Louise, it's like I can't read about polyurethane without a note that says, "Bart says the word 'polyurethane' in Episode 7 of the 10th season". Please, let this one grow and be added to. LGOOH is fun for movie buffs. Mandsford 17:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, watching all those movies is not out of the question. Someone here probably has. :-) Yeah, I'm really tired of the individual articles for episodes of various series, with the possible exception of M*A*S*H (TV series).
- The IMSDB database (which I'd never heard of until you mentioned - thanks!) would be a very credible source. Don't forget to give the full citation for that and other citations. You might also add a note on the talk page explaining the prior speedy deletion and how you've improved the second effort.
- At least you had the good sense to stay in Kentucky, a/k/a "God's Country." Realkyhick 22:02, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
OKAY, so how do I get my deleted page back? Do I have to write it all over again? Please let me know....
- Yeah, the deletion policy is taken pretty seriously, if for no other reason we get so much absolute crap that gets posted on a minute-by-minute basis. It's probably not enforced evenly, but seeing as how this is pretty much an all-volunteer effort, that's to be expected.
- I doubt you can get an admin to dig your old story out of the super-secret vault or wherever the heck deleted articles go for purgatory, so you'll probably have to write it again. (I'm not an admin.) When you do, before you save it, copy and paste the article text into Notepad and save a backup copy, just in case.
- (By the way, whereabouts in the Commonwealth are you from? I understand if you're not comfortable saying, though. I'm originally from the Glasgow area.) Realkyhick 19:46, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Originally from Lexington, but for the last 20 years in Harlan. I've been through Barren Co. many times on the way to Warren Co. (see my next Wikipedia article, "adjacent counties that look like they should sound alike, but are pronounced differently")
Disambiguation
When you create a wikilink, could you please confirm that it links to the article to which you intend. For instance, you need to type [[The Birds (film)|The Birds]], as The Birds does not link to the article about the film. The JPStalk to me 12:51, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Civility
Regarding your comments in the AfD for "Let's get out of here in film lore", please refrain from insulting other editors. Remaining civil and responding to the criticism of the article is more likely to achieve a goal which everyone is happy with than name-calling is. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Consider this your second warning regarding civility. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:44, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
AfD comments
Advocating "Discuss" is redundant, given that AfD is in fact a discussion as to whether or not the article/s in question should be deleted. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 09:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for creating the article! While there is no "rename" function, there is a "move" link associated with every article. Using it moves the article (including the full edit history) over to the new title, and turns the current article into a redirect. Very handy. -- MisterHand 11:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Just remember
Even if a user is vandalising, acting in bad faith and generally carrying on in manners unbecoming, descending to his/her level isn't the way to go. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
brilliant argument
on the Baldock Beer Disaster AfD. I just went there and said so, and I suggest what you ought to do now is to rewrite it as an article about a hoax, instead of just the italic heading, Remember, all the previous versions before it was caught will be in the page history. DGG 00:02, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well done, and now, it is considered OK to email the earlier people and say you greatly improved it, and please will they take another look. One of the reasons I liked that argument is that I realised I can use it regularly myself, not just about hoaxes, but for questioned articles on Wikipedia people. DGG 18:35, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
- Apparently the rest of the world doesn't think it's so brilliant. When we argue to convince other people, they after all are the judge. The way to survive around here is to regard this as a laboratory where you don't always expect things will go right, or a microcosm where willful idiocy can be entertaining. DGG 20:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I see you're posting messages for DGG on his userpage, but messages for users go on their talk page, not on the userpage. Go to User talk:DGG to leave DGG a message. Cheers, Mystytopia 18:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Redirect of Let's get out of here!
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Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Let's get out of here!, by Graeme Bartlett (talk · contribs), another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Let's get out of here! is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1).
To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Let's get out of here!, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Please note, this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion, it did not nominate Let's get out of here! itself. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot. --Android Mouse Bot 2 07:07, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
songs about...
Yes, I too have noticed the new trend in AfD and now I have quite a collection of these which is likely to grow faster than I can evaluate much less improve them. Still, I plan to reintroduce one or two of the endangered specie. Once I test the waters we'll see if its a complete waste of time to even bother. Cheers -MrFizyx 03:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey
I redirected your user page here because it's rather annoying to see a redlink in someone's sig. Hope you don't mind. Kwsn(Ni!) 18:59, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
What is Your opinion about Red Army crimes?
What is Your opinion about Red Army crimes category and articles about military (comunistic or not) massacres? Where are You from?
Ttturbo 20:05, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
>>>Thanks. The day before there started the great discussion about war crimes in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Red_army_crimes_in_Lithuania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Red_army_crimes_in_Estonia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Red_Army_crimes_in_Georgia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Red_Army_crimes_in_Ukraine
Some slavians attacked me sharply, and some western users too, but there was some little support. Please express Your opinion in those voting for crimes deleting debates!
Ttturbo 20:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks. I need one more help - I've created the general article about a Red Army crimes, but my English is not fluent enough unfortunately.
Ttturbo 00:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks!
Just wanted to say thanks for educating the nark who's trying to delete the articles I put up about the Iowa Pre-Flight football teams. The guy (I'll make him a male for this post) obviously doesn't know the first thing about college football, and he was ridiculously ignorant of the proof I shoved right under his nose (I gave him links to my sources, which clearly take down his argument). Several other users have also said "Duh!" and brought him up to speed, so I hope to see the proposal cancelled soon. Again, just a word of thanks. Michigan didn't beat Pre-Flight, and hopefully the Wikinerds won't either.
Common phrases
It is a very interesting concept, it looks to be the type of thing that would be perfect for Wikiversity. I'm going to be moving this week, but if you'd be interested in doing the transwiki, I'd be happy to userfy it for you. Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:12, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Since Chris S has stated he's going to take it to DRV, let him do that first. It'll probably be history-restored during the DRV anyway. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:20, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
What I like
[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=corpx&site=en.wikipedia.org The postcount tool pretty much shows what I've contributed on. I mainly contribute to UT/sports related stuff and on some limited pc games Corpx 04:24, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Singapore companies
I agree with you that it's good to know who's where, but do you think a virtual office company that no longer exists is really a worthwhile addition to a list (it was a dispute regardingPacific Centennial Group that got me to that list)? You also assume that there's a limiting factor on the content of the list by size. If you look again, you will see there is not, so there's no reason some guy with a garage-based business couldn't put his company on there. In short, I think you make good points, and if the list adhered to those rules, I'd see no reason to delete it. However, it doesn't and the material is duplicated in two other places on WP to boot. MSJapan 05:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Iowa pre-flight
I don't know what happened. I'm not an admin, so I can't delete articles -- you might want to check the deletion log to find out who deleted it. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 16:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Re. List of songs AfD
Hi dear Mansford! Regarding your comments at my talk page, well, the deletion process worked as it regularly does. Like you said yourself, there was a good number of arguments, which I pondered and gauged when analyzing the best way in which to close it. Not only I did read every comment in detail, but I also took the time to investigate further and read the whole debate at Deletion Review from late May. However, I disagree with you on your position that the debate was "abruptly halted"; as you know, these discussions usually last for 5 days. In this particular case, it remained open for a week; that is, substantially longer than a normal debate, which gave ample time for the community to express itself. As you also said, not only the comments endorsing the deletion of these articles more than tripled tho who sought to keep them, which is a vast proof of a clear consensus for this position in itself; but I also took note and valued every argument made in order to make my decision. You are of course entitled to disagree with me as the closing admin, as well as with every editor who expressed themselves in favor with this deletion, and I therefore encourage you to seek further debate at Deletion Review if you deem it necessary. Have a beautiful day, Phaedriel - 17:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Songs About Mental Illness AfD
(copied from User talk:DESiegel) Actually, the vote was 5 to 3, if it's strictly numbers that we're going by. Read the debate again. Mandsford 16:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- Your expressed opinion was "Take down and Retool" which i can't interpret as a form of keep. Indeed it could have been counted as "userfy and delete" making the numbers 6 to 2. However, as I explained in the close, I went by considerably more than just the numbers. Do you think the close was in error? DES (talk) 16:21, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Turtles and tortoises
I am more than happy to review my deletion; the wiki-software does not retain in accessible form a log of deletions categorised by admin, so I will need to know the title of the article in question. I will then get back to you, either with an apology or an explanation. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 19:32, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
I've responded to another commenter, and I think it is relevant to your comment, as well. At any rate, thanks for your participation in the AfD. Antelan talk 03:23, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your input into keeping this article. The story of the acceptance of alternative medical therapies in the United States is very, very important. The article needs a lot of work . . . but deleting it. I just don't see the justification for that.OsteopathicFreak T ? 23:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
London Mail Processing Plant
Thanks for the comment and I feel better not bitter now, I had the same problem when they wanted to delete me Wayne Ray because they thought I wasn't notable but twice as many people came to my defense and they cowered away. I have saved it and I think I will put it in the Talk page on Commons on the article by the same name, which if you think about it, is so boring it should be deleted LOL but I am in the mood of information is important to someone out there, Cheers WayneRay 22:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)WayneRay
Did you even read that there was already a catagory for the information and that the page was the fourth redundancy of the information, or do you make it a habit to be rude whereever you go? NobutoraTakeda 01:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Usually rude, but 80 percent not rude, just in dealing with people who have no connection to the series of article I am now scrapping, and deem anything other than the main article as useless. A cleanup tag would have been more polite WayneRay 13:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)WayneRay
So many people contributing redundant pages makes it okay? Thats not even close to being correct. There is a catagory that lists every single link that is listed on that page. Then each list is done by year. That means that a king who lives for 60 years is on 60 different lists, 60 different spots in the catagory, and 60 different places on the list that duplicates the catagory. It doesn't take much to realize that the pages need to be deleted and that they should be done solely by individual catagories done in a broader way than just year. NobutoraTakeda 01:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Look at this and tell me that there isn't a problem with redundancy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists_of_state_leaders_by_year "List of state leaders in 1 BC" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_leaders_by_year#First_century_BC "First century BC
1 "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_leaders_in_1_BC "Africa
* Kush 2. Natakamani, King of Kush (1 BC-AD 20)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_leaders_in_1 "Africa
* Kush - Natakamani, King of Kush (1 BC-AD 20)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_leaders_in_2 "Africa
* Kush - Natakamani, King of Kush (1 BC-AD 20)"
It goes on for 21 pages for just that one guy. NobutoraTakeda 01:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
That is not a quality answer that establishes Wikipedia as an Encyclopedia, but makes it just a redundant list of lists of lists. You have provided no answer to the fact that it could easily be replaced by a much more efficient set of catagories based on century and giving tags of those individuals who are part of those centuries, and those centuries are part of the larger catagory. That would make one set of list. Not 5000. NobutoraTakeda 01:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Irritates? The only thing irritating is people voting without realizing that there is a catagory also. Either one or the other should exist, not both. That is basic. Then there is the issue of needing the big page listing all the little pages, where most of the big page link to pages not made yet. The folks in that group bit off a lot more than they could chew when they could easily have organized it by century or, at least, decade. Normally I just satisfied myself with wandering as an IP and making changes to "random article"s. However, someone kept removing my prods so I had to go and register to make it something that can't just be dismissed. I believe its just as important to remove bad things as it is to add good things, just like legislatures should remove laws instead of just passing new ones. New things, even if good, add clutter over time. Housekeeping is a good thing. Redundancies and lists without any substantial information included are such things that I look for. And my name is not actually Nobutora Takeda. I chose that proxy name 15 years ago in honour of the legendary second to last "true" Samurai, the last being his son. I only wish that my surname was of such an important clan, and if so, I bet I could have made it as "notable" according to the standards that many chose to include people into Wikipedia. NobutoraTakeda 03:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
If it is truly so difficult to make the list like that, wouldn't it be easier to make a list Leaders of 100 BC - 1 BC? NobutoraTakeda 03:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
List_of_songs_about_masturbation is in it's 5th AfD
List_of_songs_about_masturbation is up for it's fifth AfD. You participated in an earlier one. If you wish to participate again, please go to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_songs_about_masturbation_(5th_nomination) Lentower 03:17, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Hello - this article was deleted because it was an obvious copyvio of [1] (i.e. it largely consisted of material copy-pasted from that site). There was nothing wrong with the content, except for that one fact, which is enough for a speedy deletion (see WP:CSD, I believe it's the 11th rationale under "general"). There is nothing stopping anyone from creating an article there :-) ugen64 10:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Re: Wrong attitude
Which AFD's do you object to? Sure, some of the closures are closed a couple of hours early, but are there any judgments that you think I made that were against consensus or unjustified? If there are any, please tell me any I will review them. Sr13 21:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Robert Young (gerontologist)
Greetings,
In regards to this AFD, you did ask for sources (which I provided) so perhaps you may wish to reconsider your vote:
Ultimately the issue in my mind is not 'vanity' but when articles are created for persons like Mary Ramsey Wood or William Coates and there is an assertion that the case is not true, then someone can Wikilink to my name for more information. Also, in the past researchers often debunked age claims, but then their work was forgotten about. As recently as the 1970's, the mainstream scientic community still believed that persons could live to '140' (i.e. National Geographic article by Alexander Leaf, 1973). Given that there is a long line of researchers from William Thoms to myself today working to debunk false age claims, and that like Mr. Thoms's contributions, my work has already tilted the public discourse towards skepticism, my reasoning for an 'autobiography' had more to do with providing a long line of research that showed that most claims to extraordinary age are false. I also created other articles such as Louis Epstein (supercentenarian tracker), as he was instrumental in the 1990's in the field. I find it ironic that so much controversy surrounds my article creation; it seems that most opposition comes from people, fair accusation or not, who were opposed to my debunking of the Mary Ramsey Wood case. Quite ironic, considering that Wood's 'assertion of notability' involved 15 minutes of fame a century ago, based on false information and a lack of anything more than 'yellow journalism.' I didn't provide a Guinness reference intitially because I didn't want to be 'pigeonholed', but seeing as that was an issue I did in fact add a few references on the discussion page.Ryoung122 17:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Stroller history
I stand corrected on that article. I will undelete it. Sr13 18:12, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
An essay I've written
Hello. Though we are often on the opposite side of deletion debates, I thought you might want to read an essay I've written, found at User:Eyrian/IPC. I'd be interested to hear any feedback on its talk page. --Eyrian 15:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for your comments. I moved them to the talk page, where I hope discussion can continue. --Eyrian 23:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your support for my list of Indian Women. moon 01:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I responded to your comment there in case you're interested. Useight 04:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Cheers
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Thanks! And please have some from me here for now until, perhaps one day, we can have a good chat over a real drink. Cheers, --Irpen 03:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
You are now rich! Maybe, did you get anybody placing five dollars bets with you? I know I wouldn't have! lol Mathmo Talk 01:21, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Comments
Eh, I was annoyed by the fact that a hoax had managed to stay undeleted for so long. Your request is not unreasonable, and I've implemented it. DS 12:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- (Oh, and the reason I didn't reply earlier is because you left your first message on my userpage, not my talkpage, so I didn't see it until I checked your contribs.) DS 12:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Notification of discussion: Guideline/policy governing lists
Given your extensive Wikipedia experience, I'd appreciate your input on the following:
User:Sidatio/Conversations/On list guidelines
Thank you in advance for any thoughts you may have on the topic. Sidatio 01:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
This article was recently deleted and I am submitting it for deletion review. As I see you supported keeping Yale in popular culture - an article almost exactly the same as NYU in popular culture - please support me in restoring this page. As the creator of the page I plan on bringing it to the level of Wikipedia in culture should it be restored. Please comment on the process here: Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_August_14#NYU_in_popular_culture. Your support is appreciated. Thanks. -- Noetic Sage 23:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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Hi Mandsford. Enjoyed your comments. CApitol3
- SPQV! CApitol3 21:28, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Spells in Harry potter
It is currently under a deletion review. Therequiembellishere 17:14, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Christianity Explored - request for advice.
Hi,
I noticed that Christianity Explored has been created and deleted twice - I think with two entirely separate articles - and I gather that the last to be deleted was a no-contest deletion as a spammy article with no assertion of notability. I haven't seen it of course, since it was deleted.
IMO Christianity Explored is notable and Wiki should have a good article about it ... but rather than leap in where Angels fear to tread (or fly?) I have created a personal sandbox page to draft something.
I would be grateful for your views - I am contacting all those who commented in the last deletion debate, as you will have seen the previous article.
The article is at [[2]]
Regards
Simon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Springnuts (talk • contribs) 21:07:26, August 19, 2007 (UTC).
- Thanks - I have the short version - can live with all this. Problem is that Christian sites are so darned polite - hard to stop them being hugely enthusiastic about things they agree with. But can edit out promotion I hope. I am confused by copyvio comment - short quotes are not copyvio; and that is all that I have copied - but perhaps you were pointing to possible rather than actual problems. Sometimes the back button gets you your conflicted edit material back. Regards Springnuts 22:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- I took the puffery out - you were right it was promotion, even though it was someone else's promotion. Article now launched, so it may fly. Springnuts 09:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Please edit away - of course! I too find it odd that Emmaus does not have an entry, however I guess it is the stumbling block that Christianity Explored fell over the first time - are there non-trivial and multiple sources which give information about it. Essentially they are used by different churches - the more hard line evangelical churches use Christianity Explored; more Anglo Catholic ones use Emmaus. Springnuts 08:02, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. Since you voted on this AfD, BillC and I have posted some further analysis of the whole "media equations" phenomenon - I was wondering if you'd mind having a look at it and commenting again at the AfD. Personally I don't think that a couple of days' press coverage during the silly season automatically makes something notable, especially when the exercise had more to do with getting publicity for Skoda than solving important mathematical problems. I wonder if I've done enough to persuade you? Best, Iain99 12:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Sociolinguistics research in India
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that the Sociolinguistics research in India article has been substantially improved since you !voted in the AfD. If you have time to take a look and comment again on the AfD that'd be great. Thanks! --Zeborah 06:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Invitation to vote
Hello. The article Stereotypes of whites is being nominated for deletion. If you want, you could state your opinion here. Thank you. M.V.E.i. 21:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
ANI thread I started
User Dannicali insulted both you and I in some AfDs and so, please see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Incivility_by_User:Dannycali. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 05:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
AfD you commented on - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of portable software (2nd nomination)
Please take another look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of portable software (2nd nomination) when you can? You previously left a comment there. I have vastly edited the article in question, and left comments there on the AfD--you may wish to review the situation again in light of this. Thank you. • Lawrence Cohen 16:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Mass deletion nominations for ethnic group lists
Hi,
I see you've commented on a number of these deletion discussions that have just come up for ethnic-group people lists. Having all of these come up at once is problematic, I think, so I left a message at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents see "Mass deletion nominations for List of [Ethnic Group X] Americans". You may want to follow that or even comment there. Noroton 00:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
September 2007
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Leuko 00:49, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.
Use of insults is not tollerated: see WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. I will assume that its genesis is from frustration, but we need to keep civil and focus on the message and not attack the messenger. Some of your comments are reasonably interpreted as ethnic slurs or racist remarks as well and were reported to the notice board: WP:ANI#Ethnic_slurs.2C_personal_attacks.2C_and_incivility_by_User:Mandsford_in_afd_discussions. I will also assume that you meant no harm- but sarcasm and humor rarely come off in text and you should consider that more thoroughly before the next time you want to express them.
Carlossuarez46 06:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Please revisit and cast a vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conversation opener as the article has been revised. Thanks, Captain Zyrain 23:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity
Is participation in AfD discussions your main reason for using Wikipedia? Judging by this talk page, I would find it difficult to assume otherwise. — [ ric | opiaterein ] — 03:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't mean to seem like I was judging you as such. I just get tired of people who like the illusion of having power to get articles in which they have no interest deleted. It appears that people would rather delete articles that are messy or uninteresting to them than to do any work and help by making them better. — [ ric | opiaterein ] — 17:59, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
And THAT'S why I stop at AfD so often. I've never nominated an article for deletion, on the theory that nobody forces me to read it, but some people seem to enjoy stomping someone else's sand castle. The next question would be, if I feel that way, why vote to delete anything at all... and I guess the way that I look at it, there are some standards of quality that have to be met. And not all articles are a good idea. If someone writes an article about "Britney Spears hairstyles" (hypothetically), I would go along with voting to delete that. It's hard for me to defend high quality material if I'm not willing to identify poor quality.
- The answer to poor quality articles isn't deleting them, or else half of wiki probably wouldn't exist. Things generally aren't so nice to look at when they start off. So considering the Romanian profanity article, it definitely looks like crap now, but I've been planning on de-shitifying it when I have time. Romanians (especially young ones) are pretty fond of using words that can't be found in dictionaries, so I think deleting the list, however shit it is now, isn't going to prove useful to those who are interested in the subject, or planning on visiting that area of Europe. — [ ric | opiaterein ] — 00:41, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Hah, that's part of what I was referring to, was those ridiculously long sentences that you might hear once in your life. Those need to go for sure. I guess now that it's been transwiki-ed it's not a big deal. Looks like most of the vote is pretty one-sided, so I guess I'll just take myself back to wiktionary. — [ ric | opiaterein ] — 16:11, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
relisting
The article was re-done amid debate, so I'd like to see what people think of the rewritten article rather than just base a consensus determination on the earlier commentators who hadn't benefit of the re-write. Frankly, personally on this article, I couldn't give a crap if it stays or goes but I think when there's a major re-write that purports to address the reasons many people found fault with the article that those people and others should be given an opportunity to comment (again). Cheers, Carlossuarez46 23:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
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Is there a way to ensure more debate on the article in question? I think I will strike my delete vote if this is being done 'under the radar' in any way. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 14:04, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Just seen your comment. I'm fairly new to editing WP but my impression is that this guy is POV Pushing, and I'm not sure that's appropriate here. How many bites of the cherry is he allowed? --Rodhullandemu 15:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comments; actually his persistence does not seem to be doing him any favours since I don't see anyone changing their minds. In Greece, this is a criminal offence of "proselytising"! --Rodhullandemu 16:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
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I did not find the following comments ([3][4]) very kind; I viewed these as a violation of WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. I was quite insulted as my dad has been a Los Angeles Kings season ticket holder since 1980 and I've been attending games my whole life, literally (since 1990) and I was insulted when you declared that I knew nothing about hockey. Ksy92003(talk) 02:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
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AfD on Human chemistry
Hi there, the article has been changed substantially since your vote so you might want to have another look at the new version. All the best Tim Vickers 16:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
The Citrus King
I just get a little weary of how he spouts gibberish in one AFD after another that rarely if ever rises above the level of "let's keep it, it's neat" and almost never actually addresses the merits of the nomination. What's scary is he claims to be a teacher, and this is the level of logic and argumentation he brings. I feel sorry for his students. Otto4711 17:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Otto here. RobJ1981 13:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)