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:Malke, I do not believe you should be blocked, and I have explained why at ANI. I ''do'' think you are continuing to find it difficult to navigate Wikipedia's collaborative environment. I did not offer to mentor you lightly; I don't like drama, and I prefer to focus on my copyright work. But from your multiple visits to my talk page, I believe you are motivated to participate here within community norms, and I'm willing to give you a hand if I can. Even if the community accepts the idea of mentorship, though, it's only going to work if you willingly sign on. My goals would be to help you learn to brush off what you regard as personal attacks and incivility (unless egregious, a definition of which we'd have to reach together), to stop worrying about what others may be thinking about you and attempting to do to you and to keep your focus on issues. Speaking of which, whether we go the mentorship or not, I'll wrap this and address the issues above in a moment. --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 12:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC) |
:Malke, I do not believe you should be blocked, and I have explained why at ANI. I ''do'' think you are continuing to find it difficult to navigate Wikipedia's collaborative environment. I did not offer to mentor you lightly; I don't like drama, and I prefer to focus on my copyright work. But from your multiple visits to my talk page, I believe you are motivated to participate here within community norms, and I'm willing to give you a hand if I can. Even if the community accepts the idea of mentorship, though, it's only going to work if you willingly sign on. My goals would be to help you learn to brush off what you regard as personal attacks and incivility (unless egregious, a definition of which we'd have to reach together), to stop worrying about what others may be thinking about you and attempting to do to you and to keep your focus on issues. Speaking of which, whether we go the mentorship or not, I'll wrap this and address the issues above in a moment. --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 12:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC) |
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::Hi Moonriddengirl: Thank you for being you. Would you call this a personal attack? [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMalke_2010&action=historysubmit&diff=361585218&oldid=361584587]? |
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::Hi Malke. I just happened to see your thread on AN/I. I don't think we've ever interacted before. I hope you take Moonriddengirl up on her offer. She is an experienced editor and very well respected, in part because she gets along well with just about everyone. If you listen to the advice she gives you with an open mind you may be able to change your approach enough to fit in here better than you currently do. But you will have to listen. And think about what you hear. And decide that you want to fit in here enough to change how you operate. |
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::Because your current approach is way too confrontational. I saw that as soon as I started reading the thread, I didn't even need to follow the links ( but I did ) Everyone else can see it too... so either everyone else is wrong, or you are. It's difficult to accept that you might need to change and it's even harder to actually do it. So I wish you the best. I hope this was helpful, best wishes. ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 13:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC) |
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Hello, Malke 2010. I just wanted to let you know that I added back the lesbianism stuff[12][13] because of what was discussed about it on the talk page. If you object in any way, I ask that you discuss it with me there. Flyer22 (talk) 23:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
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below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Toddst1 (talk) 04:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)And what is the 'outcome' of this AN/I discussion that warrants a one month block? Is Jusdafax an administrator? Did he come up with diffs that show behavior so egregious that a one month block, or any block, is warranted?Malke2010 04:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- To User:Toddst1: What is the behavior I'm being accused of that justifies this block? Editors can't ask to be unblocked if they don't know the reason for the block.Malke2010 05:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Message for Moonriddengirl
Hello Moonriddengirl,
As you can see, Toddst1 has blocked me. I was trying to put this on your talk page when he swooped in and blocked me.
I wanted to explain what this AN/I is all about. Thanks for commenting over there.
Apparently, Toddst1 has been watching my every move since he blocked me not long ago. I'll tell you about that later. I made a comment on Daniel Cases' talk page asking an innocent question about an article I was interested in. [14]
I left it at that when I posted that I had emailed Senator Reid's office. This is where I got the information about the correct name for the Womens Air Service Pilots.
I then found old documents that show the original given name for the group was, "Womens Air Service Pilots." So I moved the page. Notice, there was no talk page discussion going on at the time, there was no discussion going on over on Daniel Cases' page either. It was just me asking about it. Here's the diff of when I moved the page.[15]. Notice the time when I moved the page.
I didn't think more of it, figuring I'd come back later and mention on the talk page with my sources and went off to attend to RL. I came back later and found I'd been templated by User:BilCat[16] Notice that he's not made any comments on any discussion pages. He just templates me.
I put it back on his page [17]. Which he then removed, note his edit summary [18]
Now comes Toddst1's comment on Daniel Cases' talk page: [19].
Next, Toddst1 takes it upon himself to move my questions on Daniel Cases' page to the article page, as if there has been a discussion, as if there is some kind of consensus. But I've already moved the page. He's doing all of this after the fact which gives the appearance of a discussion/consensus that I've violated. [20].
Then, he puts this on my page: [21].
Next thing I know, I'm getting hit on my talk page by User:Dave1185. He's never edited on the article page either. Then Toddst1 shows up. I got fed up, and started to collect diffs to post on AN/I. Toddst1 beat me to it. When I did post a complaint on AN/I, User:SarekOfVulcan deleted it. The AN/I thread is now just disparaging comments without any diffs to back up any assertions. I haven't made any personal attacks, I haven't done any bad editing, etc. I haven't done anything except defend myself against an admin who out to block me again. He wants to ban me from Wikipedia. This is why he's canvassing admins who have blocked me in the past. He went to Black Kite and Gamaliel, too. When they didn't respond, he went to User:Jusdafax and User:Chhe, who as you know are not admins, again, their comments/assertions are never backed by diffs. Here are some diffs of what went on this afternoon. They kept at me and would not stop. I've never made any personal attacks, inappropriate edits, disruptive behavior, not a single thing. But this kept up all day and continued with the AN/I threads. This edit will give you an idea of what's been going on: [22]. As will this edit: [23].
All I did was tell User:BilCat to not template me and I deleted their posts from my talk page which I'm allowed to do. I didn't revert the page move, I made no personal attacks, I was not disruptive, and I was not edit warring or damaging the project in any way. If people didn't like that I deleted their comments from my talk page, they were free to move on.
[24][25][26][27][28] [29][30][31][32][33][34] Thanks for your help. Malke2010 04:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Also, Toddst1 went to every admin who has blocked me, including you, to get them to comment.[35].Malke2010 10:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- Malke, I do not believe you should be blocked, and I have explained why at ANI. I do think you are continuing to find it difficult to navigate Wikipedia's collaborative environment. I did not offer to mentor you lightly; I don't like drama, and I prefer to focus on my copyright work. But from your multiple visits to my talk page, I believe you are motivated to participate here within community norms, and I'm willing to give you a hand if I can. Even if the community accepts the idea of mentorship, though, it's only going to work if you willingly sign on. My goals would be to help you learn to brush off what you regard as personal attacks and incivility (unless egregious, a definition of which we'd have to reach together), to stop worrying about what others may be thinking about you and attempting to do to you and to keep your focus on issues. Speaking of which, whether we go the mentorship or not, I'll wrap this and address the issues above in a moment. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Moonriddengirl: Thank you for being you. Would you call this a personal attack? [36]?