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Hi Jonesey; re your notes on the GOCE annual report [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors%2FMembership%2FNews%2F2023_Annual_Report&diff=1201880353&oldid=1201331824 here], the figures you flagged as possibly inaccurate are for requests submitted from 1 January to 31 December, inclusive. The figures above that line refer to those processed from 1 Jan to 31 Dec, inclusive. < |
Hi Jonesey; re your notes on the GOCE annual report [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors%2FMembership%2FNews%2F2023_Annual_Report&diff=1201880353&oldid=1201331824 here], the figures you flagged as possibly inaccurate are for requests submitted from 1 January to 31 December, inclusive. The figures above that line refer to those processed from 1 Jan to 31 Dec, inclusive. <s>The percentage you flagged in the header refers to these stats</s> (I've now corrected the latter point). Does this make sense or am I wrong? Math(s) was never my strong point! |
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Also, what to do about the unwritten "Closing words" section? Would you or Miniapolis like to write some closing text? If no-one's bothered, I can remove it before sending. I don't want to tread on any toes, particularly those of the Lede Coord, which is partly why I've left the report alone for a week. But if I leave it too long, nothing gets sent out, which is sad. Thanks for your input there, btw. :) Cheers, '''[[User talk:Baffle gab1978|<span style="color:#191960">Baffle☿''gab''</span>]]''' 06:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC) |
Also, what to do about the unwritten "Closing words" section? Would you or Miniapolis like to write some closing text? If no-one's bothered, I can remove it before sending. I don't want to tread on any toes, particularly those of the Lede Coord, which is partly why I've left the report alone for a week. But if I leave it too long, nothing gets sent out, which is sad. Thanks for your input there, btw. :) Cheers, '''[[User talk:Baffle gab1978|<span style="color:#191960">Baffle☿''gab''</span>]]''' 06:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Nonstandard font color names don't translate
I noticed in your edit of 20:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC) of User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 201, you changed
[[User:QuackGuru|<font color="vermillion">'''QuackGuru'''</font>]] ([[User talk:QuackGuru|<font color="burntorange">talk</font>]])
: (uncomment to show rendering:)
to
[[User:QuackGuru|<span style="color:vermillion;">'''QuackGuru'''</span>]] ([[User talk:QuackGuru|<span style="color:burntorange;">talk</span>]])
: QuackGuru (talk)
As noted at MW:Help:Lint errors/obsolete-tag: <font color="x">
accepts some nonstandard font color names such as burntorange and vermillion, which are not on the list of 16 HTML colors or the list of 124 X11 colors. The replacement <span style="color: ...">
markup recognizes only color names on these lists. So, Quackguru's signature font colors get lost in translation. Not sure if you want to do anything about it, just passing this along. Feel free to remove the fonty display from this comment to remove two obsolete HTML lint errors. —Anomalocaris (talk) 09:16, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Those colors do not appear to be supported by font tags either (they both show as red – possibly #E00000 and #B00000, respectively, which do not appear to match valid CSS named colors – here on my talk page in the browser), so I'm inclined to consider this a GIGO and not worry about it. Blue links to both pages are a reader-friendly degradation mode. I'll give it a thought, but I don't see a great way to fix my regexes. I suppose I could have a giant list of all of the colors in each of my color-replacement regexes, but ugh. Thanks for the note; I appreciate knowing when I'm doing something that doesn't work exactly as I expect. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:45, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- This may be a browser thing - it is known that some browsers are more tolerant of incorrectly-formed HTML than other browsers may be; and colour values may be among those where different browsers have different ways of failing gracefully.
- As a historical note, the early HTML specs only allowed the 16 basic colour names; one or two browsers provided 100 or so extra color names, and once these began to be recognised by the majority of browsers, they became formalised as what we now know as the X11 colours. Other changes have occurred:
orange
was added to the basic set at some point, which now has 17 colour names; and more recently,rebeccapurple
was added to the X11 set for CSS Color Module Level 4, but not all browsers recognise it yet. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:07, 1 December 2023 (UTC) - As another historical note, it was QuackGuru's signature that led me to put in that note at MW:Help:Lint errors/obsolete-tag. —Anomalocaris (talk) 09:38, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
George Hamilton of Greenlaw and Roscrea
Dear Janesey95, I wanted to report progress on one of the problems you pointed out concerning the MOS compliancy of the timeline tables that I have added to certain biographies. On 14 April 2023 you pointed out to me on the example of the article George Hamilton of Greenlaw and Roscrea that I should:
- explain the use I made of non-standard (MOS:ITALIC) Italics
- comply with MOS:DATE
- comply with MOS:DONTHIDE
I made progress on No. 2 by finding that right-aligning solves the problem. In this way I can comply with MOS using the dmy format and still have the year stand out more to help the reader browsing for an event in a certain year.
I have implemented this on the cited example (George Hamilton of Greenlaw and Roscrea) and some others (e.g. Antoine Hamilton) and will slowly change it in the many other timelines I made. Concerning problem number 1, I still just explain my particular use of italics in a initial remark (is this good enough?) and concerning number three my timelines still do not comply. I consider that it is admissible to present them collapsed. The DONTHIDE rule suffers many generally accepted exceptions such as collapsed ahnentafels and many collapsed navigational boxes. I find that DONTHIDE treats Wikipedia like a paper encyclopedia and forbids us to take advantage of what can be done in a web-based one. Besides the table shows and hides itself without problems in mobile view. With thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 19:32, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- The date alignment looks better. I made a couple of adjustments for accessibility and formatting. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Jonesey95, thanks for looking into this. Sorry to still bother you. I struggle to understand your "ajustments for accessibility and formatting". You made two changes: the first concerns the table caption (or title), in the second you reduced the italics to just "italics".
- 1. You changed:
- |colspan=3|Timeline -> |+Timeline
- With your version we fall into the case of a table with caption in Help:Table#Collapsible tables where the collapsed version shows the caption and then the "show" control in the next line below it. I find this is not very satifactory because it is not obvious for the reader that it is a table that has been collapsed. The caption looks like a section heading. Also it wastes space by occupying two lines.
- I therefore thought it better to pretend that the table had no caption by including the caption in the first header row. The collapsed table then shows as a table cell holding the caption and the "show" control. I feel this is much more satisfactory. The reader can tell immediately that it was a table that has been collapsed. This is similar to the way navboxes are collapsed, which are essentially also tables.
- 2. Another example of me abusing italics contrary to MOS:ITALICS. I intended to indicate that this is a remark, not really a table content. Perhaps I should prefix this with "Remark:".
- An example of the newest type of timetable can be found in the article Felim O'Neill of Kinard, which also has a collapsed navbox. Dear Jonesey95, thank you again for your attention and for letting me profit from your deep understanding of the MOS. Best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 20:30, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- All data tables need a table caption for accessibility. Accessibility is a core policy of Wikipedia. See MOS:TABLECAPTION. I think "Remark:" is fine. You could also put the note at the bottom of the table, since it's a sort of table legend. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:53, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Jonesey95. Yes, I want to comply with MOS:TABLECAPTION, even if it is only a how-to guide and not a Wikipedia guideline and there are many tables in FAs that do not have a "|+" caption. If the collapsed table is displayed in two lines; that is not a major obstacle. I think I found a neat way how to display the "caveat" about the lack of precision and the "remark" about the use of italics for historical background dates. Please have another look at George Hamilton of Greenlaw and Roscrea. With many thanks for your patient guidance. I learned a lot from you, Johannes Schade (talk) 20:42, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- This would all be easier for you if complied with MOS:DONTHIDE, but if you are OK with a two-line table header when it is collapsed, I'm not going to fight about it. As for "it is only a how-to guide", I linked to it because Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility#Data tables, a guideline, is not as detailed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:18, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Jonesey95, of course you are right, MOS:Accessibility#Data and WP:Manual of Style/Tables both explicitly prescribe table captions. I looked a bit at tables in recent FAs and found that "class=wikitable ..." is usually preferred over the use of the "Table" template; also that "class=nowrap" on the |+ line keeps the collapsed table on one line. So I made corresponding changes. I am not so sure about my use of the "border:none" style that displays the caveat and remark as if they were not part of the table but above it. Is that acceptable? Some might use footnotes, but I find footnotes can be too easily ignored. Quite a few recent FAs have collapsed tables, e.g. the FA Argosy (magazine) (6 December 2023). Despite MOS:DONTHIDE they do not seem to be forbidden. WP:Manual of Style/Tables#Appearance states "Consideration may be given to collapsing tables which consolidate information covered in the prose." I think the timeline table does "consolidate information covered in the prose" and is not direct content. With many thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 16:21, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- All data tables need a table caption for accessibility. Accessibility is a core policy of Wikipedia. See MOS:TABLECAPTION. I think "Remark:" is fine. You could also put the note at the bottom of the table, since it's a sort of table legend. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:53, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Tech News: 2023-49
MediaWiki message delivery 23:48, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Revert
Hi, I just saw you reverted my edit on Template:K-Electric F.C squad. The department or "club" has been already dissolved since 3-4 years ago. See:
https://footballpakistan.com/2021/03/ke-footballers-left-to-make-hard-choices-express-tribune/
Or the recent https://www.geosuper.tv/latest/22734-pff-calls-36-players-for-national-training-camp Throwawayjamal047 (talk) 12:33, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- See WP:TFD if the template is no longer useful. Blanking the template is not appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:17, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
November 2023 GOCE drive award
The Minor Barnstar | ||
This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling between 1 and 3,999 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE November 2023 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 10:19, 7 December 2023 (UTC) |
Need a page to be created
Hi, I have seen your userpage on Wikipedia and it looks amazing. Can you please help me to create a Wikipedia page about a Company named as TechMatter (Pvt) Ltd.
I will be waiting for you.
Thanks Jawwadimran05 (talk) 12:56, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- See Help:Your first article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:17, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi Jonesey. Any objection if I delete this via WP:G7? You made one edit to add a documentation page. - Dank (push to talk) 16:54, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Guild of Copy Editors December 2023 Newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors December 2023 Newsletter
Hello, and welcome to the December 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since September. Don't forget that you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. Election news: The Guild needs coordinators! If you'd like to help out, you may nominate yourself or any suitable editor—with their permission—for the Election of Coordinators for the first half of 2024. Nominations will close at 23:59 on 15 December (UTC). Voting begins immediately after the close of nominations and closes at 23:59 on 31 December. All editors in good standing (not under current sanctions) are eligible, and self-nominations are welcome. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term that ends at 23:59 on 30 June. Drive: Of the 69 editors who signed up for the September Backlog Elimination Drive, 40 copy-edited at least one article. Between them, they copy-edited 661,214 words in 290 articles. Barnstars awarded are listed here. Blitz: Of the 22 editors who signed up for the October Copy Editing Blitz, 13 copy-edited at least one article. Between them, they copy-edited 109,327 words in 52 articles. Barnstars awarded are listed here. Drive: During the November Backlog Elimination Drive, 38 of the 58 editors who signed up copy-edited at least one article. Between them, they copy-edited 458,620 words in 234 articles. Barnstars awarded are listed here. Blitz: Our December Copy Editing Blitz will run from 10 to 16 December. Barnstars awarded will be posted here. Progress report: As of 20:33, 10 December 2023 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 344 requests since 1 January, and the backlog stands at 2,191 articles. Other news: Our Annual Report for 2023 is planned for release in the new year. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.
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Message sent by Baffle gab1978 using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:53, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
Would you consider becoming a New Page Reviewer?
- Hi Jonesey95, we need experienced volunteers.
- New Page Patrol is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles. We could use a few extra hands on deck if you think you can help.
- Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; Wikipedia needs experienced users to perform this task and there are precious few with the appropriate skills. Even a couple reviews a day can make a huge difference.
- Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision (if it looks daunting, don't worry, it basically boils down to checking CSD, notability, and title). If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us.
- If you would like to join the project and help out, please see the granting conditions. You can apply for the user-right HERE.
- If you have questions, please feel free to drop a message on my talk page or at the reviewer's discussion board.
- Cheers, and hope to see you around — ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 16:13, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Raydann, thanks for the invitation. By the way, there is an unclosed
<div>
in this message. Please adjust your template or copy/paste wikitext, and please fix the pages where you have posted this message. I have added a closing div tag above. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Tech News: 2023-50
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December blitz bling
The Minor Barnstar | ||
This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling between 1 and 1,999 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE December 2023 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 02:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC) |
Seasons Greetings!
signpost barrage
I am raising some major hell with WegweiserBot, let me know if there are any huge panoplies of lint errors I need to fix. S jp×g🗯️ 06:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- The only Linter errors I am seeing in the Signpost area are the same missing closing div tags that have been in Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2014-12-17/Featured content and friends. I think I listed them at the Signpost page a while ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Documentation
I feel like the templatedata at Template:Section header/doc is enough for documentation. Any more I should add? Aaron Liu (talk) 18:01, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- TemplateData is not documentation; it is code that tells the Visual Editor how to interact with the template. A couple of examples are always helpful. You may know what format
|3=
accepts, for example, but anyone else would have to use trial and error or look at the code. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)- I have discovered that not showing up in TOC was only because of the
__NOTOC__
magic word, not because it was transcluded... I've converted the template into a wrapper.
However, why does being JSON that tells VE (and TemplateWizard) how to do stuff preclude being documentation? Or do you mean that the only thing missing was full examples and an example for|3=
Aaron Liu (talk) 03:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)- I admit that I was trying to help you learn from your own errors; I find that the lessons stick better that way. In creating examples, you appear to have discovered that
|3=
was not functional. That is a good reason to create a testcases page, but you can usually find basic errors like this when writing documentation with a few examples. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:48, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- I admit that I was trying to help you learn from your own errors; I find that the lessons stick better that way. In creating examples, you appear to have discovered that
- I have discovered that not showing up in TOC was only because of the
Thanks for cleaning up PostgreSQL
Hi,
Thanks for the cleanup to PostgreSQL, especially the lead, which I mostly introduced the problems into.
I'm curious why you added the comma to the sentence:
"After a review in 2007, the development team decided to keep the name PostgreSQL and the alias Postgres."
(I'm hoping for some guide I can use to improve my future writing.)
kop (talk) 19:59, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- I strongly prefer the addition of a comma after an introductory prepositional phrase. I think it improves clarity and flow. See here and here for grammar explanations. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:04, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
A solstice greeting
❄️ Happy holidays! ❄️
Hi Jonesey! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. Thanks for helping respond to queries on my talk page and for all your work in technical spaces! Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!Cheers,{{u|Sdkb}} talk
{{u|Sdkb}} talk 06:42, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2024! | |
Hello Jonesey95, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:35, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Thank you!
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar | ||
Thank you so much for your innovative idea to help with my problem at infobox album and your quick implemention! J04n(talk page) 00:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC) |
- You're welcome. It looks like that category's population is dropping fast! – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:05, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
can you check the documentation {{Map/Ports and harbours of Gujarat/doc}}, its my first time making it and i have added template to the appropriate articles. DSP2092 (👤, 🗨️) 08:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Nicely done. I cleaned it up a bit. Now we just need to move the template to a better name. I will do that once the TFD discussion is closed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
I'm stuck
Well, I almost knocked off another set before the new year came in, but four errors in Table tag to be deleted (User Talk) are beyond me, and I can't go further.
User talk:Icelandic Hurricane/February Archive (2x). No idea. While I understand how their menu comes in, I get lost with the infoboxes behavior and they wig out when I do things to fix the table errors and I've given it enough tries in preview.
User talk:JoeNMLC I'm not really "stuck" on how to fix, he just reverted me as he didn't like how something moved a little bit, so I don't want to go back in.
User talk:Fyunck(click)/Archive 9 Not fully sure what's going on. I'm tempted to <pre> that table it since it seems more a discussion on how to do a size change rather than showing the size change.
All yours if you want them.
Happy New Year! Zinnober9 (talk) 07:34, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- I fixed the first and the third pages. The first one still has two pairs of mismatched div tags that may have been created in my edit, but the page displays much better and I ran out of energy. If you can fix them, be my guest. I made a minor edit to the middle page that did change the display a bit, so we'll see how that goes over. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:14, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- A couple of mismatched divs is fine given all the busy syntax on that page. Thank you greatly.
- Hope so, thanks.
- ????? That was what I tried first, but the table didn't appear and Linter said it was missing a bold tag, so it didn't feel right given I wasn't familiar with lsth (and doing |{{#lsth:Roger Federer career statistics|Singles</b>}} which fixed it from linter's perspective felt wrong). No bold issue today for some reason and the table displays, so guessing when I tried it the called table was broken and missing a bold. I can't explain it. Thank you. Zinnober9 (talk) 18:03, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- Re Roger Federer and #lsth, yeah, that's pretty obscure. It is transcluding a section of an article. I went to the article and fixed the two Linter errors it had. One of those errors was being transcluded on the talk page, so it got fixed there automatically. In general, when I come across a Linter error that I really don't get, I leave it for others. You did the right thing by asking for help instead of applying a workaround. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Jonesey95!
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
Abishe (talk) 13:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Cleanup request
Happy New Year! I was wondering if you might be able to help with a bit of post-page move cleanup based on this discussion. I am also looking for a bit of help here with Template:Article history and ClueBot archiving, if you're familiar with either. If not interested, no worries! Just seeking help someone a more technically inclined editor than myself. Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- This is not my main area of expertise, so I didn't do things in the most elegant way, but I think I have fixed everything. If not, contact me again. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:40, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Category:Non-free biographical images published in 1925 indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 19:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Category:Non-free biographical images published in 1927 indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 19:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Category:Biographical images published in 1920 indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 22:49, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Constitutional law of Wales/doc
Template:Constitutional law of Wales/doc has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 13:16, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Clean-Up of Article
@Jonesey95, Thank you for your encouragement and offer to clean up my article on Bobbie R. Allen. I understand your cautioning me about COI and have been conscious about providing citations throughout the article. I'm complete except for a document to be provided from the Harry S. Truman library and your comments and edits are much appreciated! Wdallen49 (talk) 14:06, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
"or from Wikipedia's Visual Editor"
Is there a way to clarify that a bit? I don't use VE, so I'm not certain exactly under what circumstances this might happen. Might be worth covering in a footnote rather than directly inline in the guideline text. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 04:53, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Use of small tags in infoboxes & templates
I've seen that from time to time you remove <small>...</small>
tags from infoboxes and templates citing MOS:FONTSIZE. For example here. Do you remove them on sight, or only when you feel the resulting text is just too small? There are hundreds of pages using small tags in {{Speciesbox}} and related templates, for example Suberites ficus. Should I be removing small tags from those templates? —Bruce1eetalk 11:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I remove small tags when the resulting text is too small, i.e. below 85% of the default body text font size. The default text size in navboxes and infoboxes is 88%, so adding small tags is invalid (except in some title parameters in infoboxes, which are larger than the default). As far as I know, {{Speciesbox}} has a default font size of 100%, so using small tags and templates inside that template is fine. Your browser should have a "Developer Tools" or similar menu that allows you to inspect the actual font size of rendered text and compare it to the default body font size in a rendered article. This size will vary depending on your computer and browser settings, but in general, rendered text should not go below 85% of the default body font size. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:54, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation. I'm using Firefox and it has a "Web Developer Tools" menu, but I need to play around with it first to see how it works. —Bruce1eetalk 17:33, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Click the little arrow in a box on the far left, then click on an element in the page. Then go to the Computed tab on the right side of the very busy toolbar and look for "font-size". Click first on normal body prose text to see your browser's normal font size for Wikipedia pages. Then click on some infobox text, and you should see a font-size number that calculates to 88% of the body prose size. The hardest part is clicking on the element that you want, since every page is a bunch of nested elements and you might not be able to click on exactly the one you want. If you get close, you may be able to click on the item you want in the left side of the toolbox, where it shows the HTML for the page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I tried this on Draft:2024 Auburn Tigers baseball team. Clicking on the normal body prose gives a font-size of 14px in the Computed tab. Clicking on "Jacksonville, FL" in the 5th row of the table gives a font-size of 10.7398px. If the normal text is 100%, then the reduced text would be about 76%, noting that the table font-size has already been reduced to 95%. Since the small text (Jacksonville, FL) is below 85%, the small tags should be removed. Am I on the right track? Also, is there a way to get it to show the font-size in percent, rather pixels? —Bruce1eetalk 23:57, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- When a table uses both "font-size:95%" (or anything less than 100%) and
<small>...</small>
tags, I usually just remove the "font-size:95%" declaration from the table's style rather than mess with a bunch of small tags. Other editors may choose a different path. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)- I think I've got it now. That the tool gives the font-sizes in pixels isn't a problem. Since the default font-size shows as 14px, which is 100%, the threshold of 85% is 11.9px. So any text lower than 11.9px should be questioned. Thanks for all your help with this. —Bruce1eetalk 08:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- When a table uses both "font-size:95%" (or anything less than 100%) and
- I tried this on Draft:2024 Auburn Tigers baseball team. Clicking on the normal body prose gives a font-size of 14px in the Computed tab. Clicking on "Jacksonville, FL" in the 5th row of the table gives a font-size of 10.7398px. If the normal text is 100%, then the reduced text would be about 76%, noting that the table font-size has already been reduced to 95%. Since the small text (Jacksonville, FL) is below 85%, the small tags should be removed. Am I on the right track? Also, is there a way to get it to show the font-size in percent, rather pixels? —Bruce1eetalk 23:57, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Click the little arrow in a box on the far left, then click on an element in the page. Then go to the Computed tab on the right side of the very busy toolbar and look for "font-size". Click first on normal body prose text to see your browser's normal font size for Wikipedia pages. Then click on some infobox text, and you should see a font-size number that calculates to 88% of the body prose size. The hardest part is clicking on the element that you want, since every page is a bunch of nested elements and you might not be able to click on exactly the one you want. If you get close, you may be able to click on the item you want in the left side of the toolbox, where it shows the HTML for the page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation. I'm using Firefox and it has a "Web Developer Tools" menu, but I need to play around with it first to see how it works. —Bruce1eetalk 17:33, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Check for unknown parameters
You were right about Template talk:Paid contributions.
Why you reverted Check for unknown parameters that I added to templates?
{{Infobox electronic component}}, {{Infobox space station module}}, {{Infobox border}}, {{Infobox financial index}}, {{Infobox dance}}, {{Infobox continent}}, {{Infobox industrial process}}, {{Infobox weather type}}?
Why <noinclude>{{documentation}}<!-- please place categories and language links on the /doc page, not here! -->
cause that infobox to break? Like {{Non-diffusing parent category}}. This code exists in almost all templates: {{Infobox video game}}, {{Infobox video game series}}, {{Infobox international handball competition}}, and {{Infobox sportsperson}}.
On your edits you said refer to editor's talk page. But you don't mention any technical reason. Why the code is not working? Have you ever tried it? Shkuru Afshar (talk) 08:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
What is the difference between
{{#invoke:Check for unknown parameters|check|unknown={{Main other|}}|preview=Page using [[:Template:Infobox film]] with unknown parameter "_VALUE_"|showblankpositional=1| alt | animator | background_artist | based_on | budget | caption | cinematography | color_process | country | director | directors | distributor | distributors | editing | gross | italic_title | image | image_upright | language | layout_artist | music | name | narrator | narrators | native_name | producer | producers | production_companies | released | runtime | screenplay | starring | story | studio | writer | writers }}
and
{{#invoke:Check for unknown parameters|check|unknown={{main other|}}|preview= Page using [[Template:Infobox weather type]] with unknown parameter "_VALUE_" | ignoreblank=y | name | image | imagesize | alt | caption | area of occurrence | season | effect }}
? Shkuru Afshar (talk) 10:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- I responded on your talk page, per WP:TALKFORK. Neither of the above invocations is valid. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:54, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Copy Editing Template Removal
Hi! I noticed that you added a copy editing maintenance template to the 1980 Summer Olympics closing ceremony page. I, along with a couple of other users, have edited the page. Any objection to having the copy editing template removed now? Thanks! AzureDumortierite (talk) 19:58, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- You did a great job. I have provided a few more edits and removed the tag. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:02, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! AzureDumortierite (talk) 22:19, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello there. Would you like to take a look at the recent discussion for track listing template? If you have time, your comments are always appreciated. 2001:D08:2910:679D:17AC:38B:3C2:6BDA (talk) 09:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- There is already consensus in the discussion that the whole thing is a waste of everyone's time. I do not think that anything I could contribute there would improve the discussion. It would just be wasting more time, including my own. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:18, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Template query
Hello, Jonesey95,
A very new editor created Template:Draft-stub and I'm thinking that it was just a cut and paste of an existing template. Does it look familiar? If so, I don't know whether it should go to WP:TFD or turned into a redirect. What do you think? Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 20:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's a weird one. I'm not a stub expert, but I sent it to XFD via Twinkle. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Category:Articles containing Juǀ'hoan-language text indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 08:08, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Suggestion from an Actual Copy Editor
Remove the unaccountable apostrophe from "Indigo Girls" (in item two under "Articles I have created"). SteGenevieve (talk) 19:05, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- You mean the possessive apostrophe? I'm happy with it, thanks, unless there is some WP guideline, WP policy, or external usage manual you would care to point to that would help me understand your concern. Happy editing! P.S. I am honored that you chose my talk page for your twentieth edit. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:41, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
ASCII art?
Uh, I am okay, what do you mean by this? jp×g🗯️ 11:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- I will admit the colors are not particularly inspired but it looks basically acceptable to me for a technical page :( jp×g🗯️ 11:58, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
January 27
Thank you for editing my user space. I honestly forgot I even created this page, but thank you for changing it and it gave me a great tip! <3 Ansony89Talk 18:48, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Please link to the edit in question. I make minor edits to many pages daily. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:48, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Jonesey, see Special:Contributions/Red-tailed hawk. It appears that Red-tailed hawk has been posting that message to large numbers of user talk pages, possibly indiscriminately. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. Red-tailed hawk, I do not find the above message helpful, since it provides no context and does not help me find the edit in question to know whether I should be concerned. Even though the above message says that it "does not imply that there are any issues with your editing", the mere presence of the message presents that implication.
The "topic" called "post-1992 politics of the United States and closely related people" must comprise thousands, perhaps even tens of thousands of articles; are you saying that if I fix a syntax error in such an article, that edit is treated or viewed differently from the thousands of other error fixes that I make on a monthly basis? That seems like a dubious premise, or maybe I misunderstand. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:06, 28 January 2024 (UTC)- No; if you fix syntax errors in those articles and continue to make good edits (like those hundreds of thousands of gnomish edits that you have made), that isn't viewed differently. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- This seems contrary to assuming good faith to me. You should assume that I will continue to make good edits, just as I assume that you will make good edits, unless there is evidence to contradict that assumption. The above warning message should not be necessary unless an editor is making questionable edits. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:16, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Again, not a warning message, and the instructions at WP:CTOP and {{Alert/first}} don't assume fault here. In any case, I continue to believe that you will be a productive editor; I don't see where I'm stating otherwise. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- This seems contrary to assuming good faith to me. You should assume that I will continue to make good edits, just as I assume that you will make good edits, unless there is evidence to contradict that assumption. The above warning message should not be necessary unless an editor is making questionable edits. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:16, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- No; if you fix syntax errors in those articles and continue to make good edits (like those hundreds of thousands of gnomish edits that you have made), that isn't viewed differently. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. Again, as noted above, the notification does not imply anything wrong with your edits. It's just a notification that you've edited a page related to Post-1992 U.S. politics, and something you should be aware of, even if edits in the area are minor. The notification of a good number of editors comes after an AN thread where additional admin eyes on the topic area were requested. Admittedly, it would have been better to do this as new editors came in, rather than all at once, but I had been a bit too busy to track that. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:07, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Please link to the edit in question. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- The edit you made at Standoff at Eagle Pass (here) was a gnomish edit (albeit not marked as minor). I'm not sure where the confusion here is. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- The confusion is that the edit I made was clearly productive and harmless, and had a clear edit summary, and yet I received the above scary-looking warning message. The message says that it is not a warning, but it clearly is. I just don't see the value to anyone of posting that notification here based on the content of my edit. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:14, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- I understand why the formatting, etc. might come off as a warning at first glance, but I can assure you that this isn't a warning; the template is regularly given to productive editors; it's merely making one aware of the existence of the whole WP:CTOP system and how it interacts with American Politics. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:20, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wow, what a nest of confusion. This is why I try to stay away from drama in nearly all of its forms here on Wikipedia. I'll go back to my gnoming. I encourage you to limit your delivery of the above message to editors who make substantive edits to the prose or references of articles and ignore editors who make gnomish, productive, or otherwise harmless edits. As you can see, it just stirs up concern when misapplied. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- I understand why the formatting, etc. might come off as a warning at first glance, but I can assure you that this isn't a warning; the template is regularly given to productive editors; it's merely making one aware of the existence of the whole WP:CTOP system and how it interacts with American Politics. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:20, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- The confusion is that the edit I made was clearly productive and harmless, and had a clear edit summary, and yet I received the above scary-looking warning message. The message says that it is not a warning, but it clearly is. I just don't see the value to anyone of posting that notification here based on the content of my edit. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:14, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- The edit you made at Standoff at Eagle Pass (here) was a gnomish edit (albeit not marked as minor). I'm not sure where the confusion here is. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Please link to the edit in question. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. Red-tailed hawk, I do not find the above message helpful, since it provides no context and does not help me find the edit in question to know whether I should be concerned. Even though the above message says that it "does not imply that there are any issues with your editing", the mere presence of the message presents that implication.
- Jonesey, see Special:Contributions/Red-tailed hawk. It appears that Red-tailed hawk has been posting that message to large numbers of user talk pages, possibly indiscriminately. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
January 2024 GOCE drive award
The Modest Barnstar | ||
This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 4,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE January 2024 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 03:35, 4 February 2024 (UTC) |
Vector 2022 stylesheet question
Hi Jonesey95, I saw your stylesheet changes to reduce blank spaces on the page, but it goes a bit too far for me. I'm just hoping to reduce the amount of blank space to the right of the pinned tools menu and expand the article width by a corresponding amount, maybe 40px at a time until it seems too wide. I don't want to reduce the amount of blank space on the left. Is there some minimal set of common.css changes that would do that? I have been unable to figure this out. (I have "Enable limited width mode" checked in my preferences and I don't toggle to use full width. My screen is 1440x900 if that matters.) Thanks! Daniel Quinlan (talk) 06:39, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Have you tried the section of my common.css that is preceded by the comment "Vector 2022: Fix excessive padding when page tools are in the right sidebar"? You might also want the section after "Vector 2022: Fix font size of items in Tools (formerly More) drop-down menu". Basically, I used my browser's Tools/Inspector feature to point at different parts of the page to identify the CSS selectors that they used, then adjusted my common.css to try to shrink or otherwise change those sections. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:58, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I didn't want to reduce the font size, but I finally found a solution for the method I'm using. One or two more lines were needed in
.mw-body
in addition to thegrid-template
. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:28, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I didn't want to reduce the font size, but I finally found a solution for the method I'm using. One or two more lines were needed in
Nomination for deletion of Template:Year in Wales/doc
Template:Year in Wales/doc has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 19:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
TPE
Since it sounds from the template talk page that you will not be following through, I thought I'd get your thoughts on me filing review of our mutual acquaintance's conduct at AN, with the view to potentially pull their TPE access. You and I both suffered through the {{marriage}} nonsense, but is that enough to merit removal? Some of their responses in this last discussion would lead me to pull any other TPE's access, but since I'm involved I'm trying to be a bit more cautious in proceeding. Primefac (talk) 12:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- I strongly support removal of template editor for them. They keep doing the same thing over and over again: making far too many edits to live templates that are widely transcluded, doing so before and during discussions, making errors, not acknowledging that the behavior is disruptive, and then doing it again. It's not appropriate behavior for a TE. The editor will still be able to edit the sandbox and testcases and documentation if they want to improve templates. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:42, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Posted: WP:AN#Template editor permission review request. Primefac (talk) 16:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, Primefac, for your posting to AN. I try to stay away from AN and ANI boards, having had a few bad experiences there, and from drama in general. I always appreciate the editors who are willing to take the time to make valid reports on those boards. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:45, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm deeply sorry for any disruption my actions may have caused. Reflecting on the {{marriage}} situation and the recent discussions, I ought to have been more cautious and collaborative in my approach. My intentions were always to contribute positively but I readily acknowledge that my methods weren't the most effective. I will commit myself to being more mindful and consulting with fellow editors before undertaking significant changes in the future. Regarding the review of TPE access, I respect the process and trust in the community's judgment to decide the appropriate course of action. On a personal note, I'm grateful to you, Jonesey, for the way you have conducted yourself over these past several years, and I believe you've helped me become a better template editor, even as there's still much I need and will endeavour to learn. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Posted: WP:AN#Template editor permission review request. Primefac (talk) 16:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Template:Designation request
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi Joonsey,
Is it possible if you can add capital letters to the new designation? It kinda looks weird without. Thanks! Daftation 🗩 🖉 16:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- The links to the new China-related article and category use the capitalization for those pages. If you think those pages should have different capitalization, suggest that at their talk pages. Or do I misunderstand your request? – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:28, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- I was talking about the new designation for Major cultural heritage sites under national-level protection in Template:Designation. You didn't capitalize the letters, and also the name should be Major Historical and Cultural Site Protected at the National Level, not the one on the Wikipedia page, which I believe is a translation error (see File:Protection signs of buildings on the Bund, 2019-10-18 01.jpg). Also, the number of protected subjects is known, not unknown. It should be 5,058. Is it also possible if you can apply the colour of the background and border that I requested? They are both Chinese traditional colours and picked by me. My original request and code is at Template talk:Designation, and should be the most recent topic. Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience. Daftation 🗩 🖉 17:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, the code in the templates is the same as the code you requested, except for the typo I fixed. If you have suggestions for changes, or if you see errors, you can make changes in the template's sandbox and view them on the testcases page. You can also edit the documentation page. I recommend that any further discussion happen at Template talk:Designation, not here. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- I was talking about the new designation for Major cultural heritage sites under national-level protection in Template:Designation. You didn't capitalize the letters, and also the name should be Major Historical and Cultural Site Protected at the National Level, not the one on the Wikipedia page, which I believe is a translation error (see File:Protection signs of buildings on the Bund, 2019-10-18 01.jpg). Also, the number of protected subjects is known, not unknown. It should be 5,058. Is it also possible if you can apply the colour of the background and border that I requested? They are both Chinese traditional colours and picked by me. My original request and code is at Template talk:Designation, and should be the most recent topic. Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience. Daftation 🗩 🖉 17:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Query
Hello, Jonesey95,
What do you think Template:Nearest meighbour for whole page/style.css is for? Misspelling? I also don't understand how this editor moved this template without leaving a redirect. That usually only happens if the editor is a Page Mover. But since you know so much about templates (and when pages are mistakenly placed in Template space), I thought you might know. I just happened to spot it on the Move log. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 22:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- I have sorted it, I think. When I moved the .css page to the correct name, I noticed that "Leave a redirect behind" is grayed out, as is the checkbox to the left of that option. My wild guess is that CSS pages can't be redirects or targets of redirects, so the normal page mover rights do not apply. A bigger WP CSS nerd than I, like Izno or Redrose64, might know something like that. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- CSS files - including those in user space - must be valid CSS as defined in the various CSS specs. There is no concept of redirection in those standards. What they do have is the ability to import one CSS file in another, and I do this at User:Redrose64/common.css - it's the very first line. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Annual report notes
Hi Jonesey; re your notes on the GOCE annual report here, the figures you flagged as possibly inaccurate are for requests submitted from 1 January to 31 December, inclusive. The figures above that line refer to those processed from 1 Jan to 31 Dec, inclusive. The percentage you flagged in the header refers to these stats (I've now corrected the latter point). Does this make sense or am I wrong? Math(s) was never my strong point!
Also, what to do about the unwritten "Closing words" section? Would you or Miniapolis like to write some closing text? If no-one's bothered, I can remove it before sending. I don't want to tread on any toes, particularly those of the Lede Coord, which is partly why I've left the report alone for a week. But if I leave it too long, nothing gets sent out, which is sad. Thanks for your input there, btw. :) Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
"Not guilty, your honour". A category was removed in the edit preceding mine; all I did was change the template. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Mattythewhite: Motion denied (or some other legalism). The /doc subpage contains a category, which is the normal place for template categories to live. When you stopped transcluding it, the template page no longer had a category. I'm fine with your edit; just remember to move the category to the template page (inside the noinclude tags). – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:21, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
For the record, all that was was me trying to figure out - by looking at the differing source code between the mobile and non-mobile sites - why they acted differently. Ended in figuring it out and finding this fix, which fixed the bug. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 20:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm glad you found that fix. If you scroll up on the page, you can see that I worked on a fix in 2022 and made some progress, but if you have fixed it the rest of the way, that is super. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure it's the most efficient fix: I wasn't sure if the first div that only exists if Location=center was actually necessary after the change (it even adds a </div> at the bottom only if Location=center to accomodate it), but just in case that was fixing some other use case, I went with the minimal change. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 22:58, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Smart. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, what do you think of my new template for making CSS image crop a little easier to use, {{Easy CSS image crop}}. It doesn't do Annotated Image stuff, but that's pretty advanced and rare functionality, and I don't really want to have to learn enough Lua string handling to make Module:ImageRatio work with an annotated image as the input. I'd imagine something like |[%s]*image[%s]*=.[|}] since it returns the shortest match, and then strip everything before the = from that, but ugh. And I'm not sure if I even escaped the | or } correctly. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 06:48, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Smart. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure it's the most efficient fix: I wasn't sure if the first div that only exists if Location=center was actually necessary after the change (it even adds a </div> at the bottom only if Location=center to accomodate it), but just in case that was fixing some other use case, I went with the minimal change. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 22:58, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
About the 2024 Emperor's Cup edit summary
About the broken syntax, i copied it from the earlier versions of the (section about the participating clubs in the) 2023 Emperor's Cup i retrieved by accident. After further inspection, i believe this mistake was corrected by someone else after i didn't took notice of the "coding error" (i don't know the right term), as the syntax does not present any error in the current version of the (section of) article. I don't think it damaged the article from a visual perspective, though, so i'm relieved. ~~ SoftReverie (talk) 01:56, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. I have seen this syntax more than once, so I figured it was being copied from somewhere. There are still more than 80,000 "missing end tag" errors in articles, of which this was one. Once they are all fixed, there shouldn't be anywhere for editors to copy from, at least in article space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:53, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Special:Diff/1164849222/1205441415
Hi Jonesey, I've tested this change to {{Infobox rugby biography}}, a protected template, based on {{Infobox person}} formatting of the same parameters. I just thought to check this by with you, in light of my recent issues. Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:36, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Neveselbert, I looked at the sandbox and made a couple of adjustments. Where are the relevant test cases? – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- There's {{Infobox rugby biography/testcases}}, and there doesn't seem to be an issue. Thanks for those adjustments, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- You have not edited the testcases page. Which test cases show that your proposed changes actually work? That's what "relevant" means in this context. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I've been a bit preoccupied. I assumed it works seeing {{Infobox rugby biography/testcases#Test case}}, with there not being any visible issues, as well as through previewing certain pages such as Barry John with the sandbox version. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 16:51, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Where is the test case showing multiple positions that shows the "(s)"? If you have a conditional statement, you need to test at least two possible conditions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I tested that through Special:ExpandTemplates. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:08, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'll be frank. Your track record means that I can only trust your changes if you show your work. Add a test case to the test cases page that shows your new code working when all of the modified labels should be pluralized. Add or modify another that shows all of the modified labels as singular. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:26, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Special:Diff/1207765901 ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- That shows one condition in one parameter, AFAICT. There are four labels to test, each with two possible conditions (plural or not). – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe it's just worth doing the one parameter for now, since that's the only that's been bothering me. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- OK. Change the sandbox and test cases page accordingly. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Done ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- OK. Change the sandbox and test cases page accordingly. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe it's just worth doing the one parameter for now, since that's the only that's been bothering me. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- That shows one condition in one parameter, AFAICT. There are four labels to test, each with two possible conditions (plural or not). – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Special:Diff/1207765901 ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'll be frank. Your track record means that I can only trust your changes if you show your work. Add a test case to the test cases page that shows your new code working when all of the modified labels should be pluralized. Add or modify another that shows all of the modified labels as singular. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:26, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I tested that through Special:ExpandTemplates. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:08, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Where is the test case showing multiple positions that shows the "(s)"? If you have a conditional statement, you need to test at least two possible conditions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I've been a bit preoccupied. I assumed it works seeing {{Infobox rugby biography/testcases#Test case}}, with there not being any visible issues, as well as through previewing certain pages such as Barry John with the sandbox version. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 16:51, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- You have not edited the testcases page. Which test cases show that your proposed changes actually work? That's what "relevant" means in this context. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- There's {{Infobox rugby biography/testcases}}, and there doesn't seem to be an issue. Thanks for those adjustments, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bolivian Stock Exchange
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Intro/interlude as uncredited songwriters/producers
Hi @Jonesey95. There's recent discussion about for suggesting leave blanking only for intro/interlude as uncredited songwriters/producers. If you have time, your comments would be appreciated. Regards. 2001:D08:2952:70C:17B3:1883:ECAA:A9CE (talk) 11:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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For your work on templates affecting Portal links Lyndaship (talk) 16:33, 17 February 2024 (UTC) |
- Lyndaship, thank you! I had fun tracking that one down. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:34, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thx
thx for the cleanup
pandaqwanda (talk) 17:34, 17 February 2024 (UTC) (added a link to the diff pandaqwanda (talk) 17:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC))
- You're welcome. The syntax problem was an obscure one; I tried to retain the formatting that you appeared to want. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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February blitz bling
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HTML close p tag removals
Hello Jonesey95,
In this edit, you removed several instances of </p>. Why? When I used to use the p tag, I would sometimes get yelled at for not closing them. SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- It looks to me like I added closing p tags in that edit. I try not to yell at editors, but the MediaWiki software does sometimes complain a bit on the "Page information" page if there are unclosed p tags present. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
One more adjustment to Infobox professional wrestling promotion
Hi Jonesey95,
Thank you so much for your previous assistance with Template:Infobox professional wrestling promotion. Can I request an additional adjustment? Can you make it so that
|split = example produces "Split from" rather than "Split" when it renders in the infobox? I'd be much obliged, CeltBrowne (talk) 13:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
International Women’s Day Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon, Sunday, March 10
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