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Picture revised
I have since reloaded an image under copyright discussion. I have now correctly noted that it is copyrighted and not open for 'free use' I hope you respect this change I have made. I apologize for the misuse of the image uploading.
The building picture I submitted will not be used after all
I already removed it from the KCPT page, realizing that taking a photo of the building myself would be better than using someone else's photos whether it is considered fair use or not. Plus, that photo was of the backside of the building and not the front (a view of the front would be better). Therefore, feel free to remove that photo from this site. It will not be used. --CastleBuff
Article for Barry Klarberg
I reviewed your message. Thank you for your comments. I want to inform and ensure to you that this Wikipedia entry was not created by Barry Klarberg. We share the same last name. With regards to the headshot image used, I have reached out to my friend who took the photograph and will receive an email from him confirming the permission to use the image. This email with the author's explicit permission will be forwarded to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. Rklarberg (talk)User talk:rklarberg
Ashish Kapoor Image
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Historiographer
I like to make clear that I do not support, nor even accept overlooking of racial slurs on Wikipedia. They may be used elsewhere, but I support the community sense that they have no place here. If I appeared to be supporting Historiographer, it is simply that I thought there was a plausible case that the words might have been misunderstood. I now know that you are well-acquainted with the history (which was not presented in the original ANI thread, so I defer to your more detailed understanding of the background. I still support the concept of escalating blocks, and think a 3month block following a 72 hour block is a jump too far. I haven't had the "pleasure" of dealing with any of the Korean-Japanese spats, so my view may not be the same as if I had that experience.
Re: Replaceable fair use File:The Swarm Train & Station.jpg
Hello, I have left a message on the file page disputing your decision to nominate the image for deletion. Can you please read my message on the file page and post a message on my talk page with your response. Thanks!--Dom497 (talk) 22:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap
- Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Should wikipedia policy recognise its own imperfection.
- Project:innocent prisoner's dilemma Innocent prisoner's dilemma (AfD discussion)
- explanation for tagging that article as Liberian English
Since you discussed Penyulap's behaviour on the administrator's noticeboard a while back, perhaps you might like to venture an opinion on all this. Uncle G (talk) 12:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Wouldn't you say that the knowledge of the individual possessed by an account registered a few weeks ago strike you as suspicious (or a call for attention)?—Ryulong (竜龙) 07:39, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know what drives Mr. Wikipediania (talk · contribs), but apparently he has shown quite some fascination with the topic of old banned users. He seems to be systematically searching for old cases of serial sockpuppeters that have had no formal community ban discussion yet. I don't think his knowledge of these cases should be seen as a suspicious sign as such, because he has clearly been investigating them, but his interest in the topic is somehow odd. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:16, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- This reminds me that I was contacted recently by SudoGhost requesting that I put forward a formal community ban on an IP vandal that I've been battling for as long as I've been on this project. Why is it that people won't accept that a de facto ban is a thing that exists?—Ryulong (竜龙) 21:09, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Re: copyright
To voice my thoughts/questions in one word → what? ΚΛΤΛΝΛGØDΤλłκ 11:09, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Why? Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:12, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- wath ;_; ΚΛΤΛΝΛGØDΤλłκ 11:13, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe this article has an answer for you? Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- wath ;_; ΚΛΤΛΝΛGØDΤλłκ 11:13, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay, then, seriously. You uploaded File:Hammock near the rocky mountains British Columbia.png, saying it was "from a friend" of yours, it showed a place in Canada, and that it was "ineligible for copyright". Now, the last claim is patently false: photographs are always copyrightable, so even if this really was given to you by a friend, we'd need an explicit, verifiable licensing statement from that friend. However, given the fact that it was previously published here, with a different description (saying that it was a place in Norway), I have my doubts. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:33, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oh dear D: → I doubt you'll believe me but I legitimately thought it was a photo from canada → A friend of mine did give me the photo And told me so himself, Again I doubt you'll believe this. Either way, sorry for wasting your time. Its obvious I'm wrong here and I formally apologize for the waste of time. In the future I'll make sure I actually check for relevant sources/etc. If you have any tips on images I'd be open for advise, as I'm very new to Images on wikipedia. Sorry again! ΚΛΤΛΝΛGØDΤλłκ 11:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
AE
Seeing as you are anyway involved in AE adjudication, could you take a look at this AE which as The Blade of the Northern Lights states: "Comments from other admins would be really nice too." Ankh.Morpork 15:57, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Deletion of picture BurnopfieldStJames
Please can you explain why this file has been deleted. No you cannot - because there was no reason. This image is perfect. When I uploaded it, I stated quite clearly about permissions. People like yourselves need to consider - is this Wikipedia (the free encyclopaedia which anyone can edit) or is it just for an 'exclusive' group of people who discriminate against less experienced editors? Oneill05 oneill (talk) 18:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
NEGATIVE BARNSTAR
It's such a shame that there are no Negative Barnstars. It's lucky for you, however, because I would quite happily have given you several after you deleted the image for NO REASON. Oneill05 oneill (talk) 18:48, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well, you could try something like the following. Feel free to vary the text and image according to your likings.
{{subst:Award2 |image=Thumbs down red.svg |topic=The Negative Barnstar |text=I hereby award you this negative barnstar, for being an abusive admin, an overall horrible person, and for deleting my image. }}
- However, this won't change the fact that your file File:BurnopfieldStJames.jpg didn't have any evidence that its owners had released it under a free license. Right now, the source website you cited, http://www.burnopfield.net, doesn't even exist. I honestly don't remember whether last time I looked it was also already offline, or whether it existed but showed no evidence of licensing. If you can cite a proper release statement now, I can still restore the image. If you want to ask me to do that, you might want to choose to make your negative barnstar not too horribly abusive, because that might result in me disliking you. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:51, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Cyprus
The above barnstar conversation is hilarious btw. Although Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Greek and Turkish named places) is ancient history, could you have a quick look at Talk:Kioneli.In ictu oculi (talk) 00:59, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:04, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
RE: File talk:Aquae Sulis artist impression.jpg
Hi. I've no idea what's happenning there! Anyway, you may have noticed that the wording in {{di-replaceable fair use-notice}} has now been amended. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 13:08, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Question about uploading pictures...
Hi Future Perfect at Sunrise!
I hope you won't mind my writing to you. I have a question about uploading pictures and after scouring all the pages, and discussion pages, on image policy i thought it might be easiest to ask you directly, as you seem to be an authority on these things :)
I'm a bit of a newby to wikipedia and one of the tasks I've set myself is to improve pages on Caribbean writers such as E. A. Markham, Fred D'Aguiar, Wilson Harris, Caryl Phillips and others. One of the things I would like to do is to get an infobox with a picture up on their pages. From what I've read so far, it seems to me like the best way of doing this would be to write to institutions with which these writers are affiliated, or - where I can track them down - authors of particular pictures and ask them if they would release a picture of the author in question under the conditions of free use, or - at the least - give permission for it to be used on Wikipedia under the conditions of fair use. I have already attempted to do this for Wilson Harris though, some 3 weeks later, I have not received a response and I anticipate that my requests regarding the other writers might well be met with similar upresponsiveness! The policy on fair use is still a little unclear to me, so my question is: is there something I'm missing? Is it likely that some of the pictures of these authors that are on the internet would qualify for fair use (and, if so, what am I looking for?). Or am I best patiently sticking to my plan of action, and trying to get permissions for photographs to be used?
With all best,
Loriski (talk) 13:13, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for asking. Trying to ask for permissions as you have been doing is probably the best bet for the moment. Writers may be one class of article subjects where our non-free content rules sometimes lead to disappointing results – as long as they are alive, our general principle that non-free photos of living persons are usually considered replaceable kicks in; at the same time, writers, even notable ones, tend to do their job away from the public and may less frequently appear at public events than most other classes of notable people (such as politicians, musicians or athletes), so getting a fresh free photograph may be less easy than in many other cases. If you're lucky, somebody might catch an occasion at a speech, a book signing event or some other such public appearance. Otherwise we're out of luck. To clarify, we really need a fully free release here; the alternative you mention, of a statement authorizing fair use on Wikipedia, will unfortunately not be sufficient. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:18, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you so much for clarifying - this is really helpful. I will keep writing to people in the hope, in which case, but much more happily now I'm able to rid myself of the niggling thought that there might be a much more time-efficient way of doing things that I just hadn't managed to figure out :) Loriski (talk) 17:37, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Further problems with Collect's edits
After you closed the appeal at WP:AE, Collect made the following edits after his formal warning: [1][2] Mathsci (talk) 14:28, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- Probably not the best idea to revert him and create the impression you are now following his edits. Please try to give it a rest too. Let him talk; as long as he is not again spewing accusations against you, there's no problem with it. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Your talk page protection
has been raised at ANI. Dougweller (talk) 17:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Maunus
Hey; Maunus wants his wikibreak to be over (really; email).
Br'er Rabbit (talk) 21:58, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- Done. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 22:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Template:Polytonic has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.
- Hi Future Perfect, kind of a dull issue, but you've posted a few times on the talk page in the past and edit very often in the template's primary usage areas, so I drop this notification here. All best — [dave] cardiff | chestnut — 03:06, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up, it's appreciated. I've asked to keep it, just in order to keep old revisions of pages readable. Fut.Perf. ☼ 05:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- And I think you make a good point, though my understanding of the software might be poor. I'm working on substituting it from current revisions, though I hate to edit user and talk spaces.
But am I wrong that the template will render with each page load and thus simply give lang + grc even for old revisions? If I'm wrong,[Whoa! it's late and that's a moronic question! ... the very point of your keep !vote.] Can you see my reply to your !vote and maybe give the standard usage note for a template that shouldn't be used or point me toward an example? I've never encountered one. Thanks. And, by the way, I've seen you around and appreciate the work you've done for Greek and related topics. Best — [dave] cardiff | chestnut — 05:27, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- And I think you make a good point, though my understanding of the software might be poor. I'm working on substituting it from current revisions, though I hate to edit user and talk spaces.
- Thanks for the heads-up, it's appreciated. I've asked to keep it, just in order to keep old revisions of pages readable. Fut.Perf. ☼ 05:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Lower Metzenseifen
I protest the deletion of Lower Metzenseifen. The older site Medzev is entitled with a slovak name for a well-known settlement in the Cleveland area. You should really explain yourself and provide academic sources for making changes like this. Just because an article has an older creation date, does not make it more accurate. There is a reason that this site was under protection. You should really look into it. Thanks Agentxp22 (talk) 07:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- This is standard site policy. Article histories must be kept together. If you feel the contents of the Medzev article would be better placed at the Lower Metzenseifen location, then the only technically correct solution under our site policies is to propose a move of the page (i.e. with all its old revisions) to that new location. You don't just go and write the article afresh at the new location you prefer. Make that proposal, see if you can get consensus for it, and if you do, somebody will be happy to move the page for you. In the meantime, you are quite welcome to copy whatever is useful of your new text content over from the Metzsenseifen pages into the Medzev pages. I didn't in fact "delete" it; it's still accessible if you click on Lower Metzenseifen, then on the small "redirected from" link just below the Medzev page title, and then on the "view history" link in the top bar. Let me assure you that I have no dog in this fight and I don't intend to express any opinion on the respective merits of the page titles at all; this is purely an administrative policy thing. Please do not continue to edit-war or move-war over it, because you might end up blocked from editing. This place is run by consensus, and editors are usually quite willing to listen to well-presented move proposals if they are based on good arguments, facts and policy. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:00, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for that. Athough I still think that the site is falsely named for the english database, I think given the stubbornness of both parties involved in this "war" as you call it, it is in our best interest to cooperate. I think a redirect is a nice compromise. The many Americans who emigrated from Metzenseifen will no doubt only know it by that name. The redirect will at least allow this site to be found when they search for Metzenseifen (I don't know who in the world would search for Medzev or Vyšný Medzev. As for the information contained on Lower Metzenseifen, I will incorporate that into the Medzev site. Agentxp22 (talk) 08:42, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Listen
Why the community wants to pretend that certain users are banned when in fact they're editing alongside us is beyond me. Allowing User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg and other past banned users to freely contribute and allow their edits to stay not only encourage them to continue to evade said ban, but it further asserts the community's two-faced hypocritical bullshit that it regularly engages in. --MuZemike 15:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- I totally agree, and in fact I've just removed a few more junk talkpage creations by the latest sock. But I disagree with your method of WP:POINT violations in protesting against the nonsense. Really, we have the WP:POINT rule for a reason; it was made to stop exactly the type of behaviour you're engaging in here, so please stop that. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:14, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- You know, if I was a little more spiteful, I would unblock that user myself and let the community deal with it. However, citing said comment I made above, they would have my head on a stick. --MuZemike 15:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed. And while I don't know how pretty your head is, I'm concerned it wouldn't be a pretty sight then. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:25, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- The point that you're trying to make, though, is that the person concerned does edit, blithely and without suffering any apparent effect from the community ushering the person out of the door. So unblocking an old account wouldn't give the community anything to deal with, that isn't already here. So you wouldn't achieve anything concrete with such an action except your name on a block log. Uncle G (talk) 16:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- You know, if I was a little more spiteful, I would unblock that user myself and let the community deal with it. However, citing said comment I made above, they would have my head on a stick. --MuZemike 15:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
I strongly recommend not doing that. It won't help, and it'll turn the problem into a you-versus-MuZemike arbitration case; which is not, and should not be, the actual problem at all. Uncle G (talk) 16:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia Help Survey
Hi there, my name's Peter Coombe and I'm a Wikimedia Community Fellow working on a project to improve Wikipedia's help system. At the moment I'm trying to learn more about how people use and find the current help pages. If you could help by filling out this brief survey about your experiences, I'd be very grateful. It should take less than 10 minutes, and your responses will not be tied to your username in any way.
Thank you for your time,
the wub (talk) 18:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC) (Delivered using Global message delivery)
Start walking the walk
In this Arbitration Request [3] you used the following words "Edit-warring a section with the glaringly judgmental title "Political Manipulations and Falsification of History in Azerbaijan" into a contentious article displays reckless disregard to the requirements of NPOV and is, as such, sanctionable behaviour." You said this about edits made to the Khojaly Massacre article. I now challenge you to help to take this article away from the revert-ridden, edit warring, "partisan mud-fest" that exists there, and that you do it by being involved in editing it. Or are you only interested in sanctioning editors who work on contentious articles? As you can see, I have been bold and made some cuts to that article (removng some of its propagandistic elements) that will probably stir up a hornets' nest. I would like either support for my aims or an explanation why my edit was wrong. Meowy 02:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- I have no content interest in that article, so no. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:42, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Just as I though - all talk no walk. A typical administrator. Meowy 14:55, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- You had enough content interest several days ago to be able to describe an edit as having a "glaringly judgmental title". It seems that you have plenty of "content interest" when it gives you an excuse to exercise your powers, but you have zero content interest when it concerns your responsibilities. Meowy 21:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Just as I though - all talk no walk. A typical administrator. Meowy 14:55, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Arb Enforcement question
You're a regular at AE, so looking for a little advice on proceeding. The Muhammad Arbcom has a section for Discretionary sanctions, which I take to mean an authorization for sanctioning general disruption in the topic area by parties to the case after the case is closed. Is that a generally correct interpretation? I'm seeing a person involved in that Arbcom (I was a party as well, on the other side of the debate) basiucally not being very accepting of the decision which in large part did not go in their favor. They have bene in effect continuing the same argument that led to the filing in the first place as well as apologizing to new editors on behalf of the project that the rest of us are, in so many words, a bunch of partisan keep-the-images-for-the-hell-of-it doing it on purpose. I was starting an AE filing against this person but got to the part about prior warnings. Would something like this go to AN/I first, and if the consensus is that the behavior is bad enough for a warning, use that finding for AE (the "warned previously" part) if this stuff happens again down the road? Or AE now? Tarc (talk) 18:51, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- The general practice is that immediate participants to Arbcom cases don't need to get extra warnings first, as they are supposed to be aware of the decision, so I guess you could go straight to AE if you feel the need. Personally, I don't really see that posting as sanctionable – the opinion that editors such as the one he was addressing deserve an explanation or "apology" along those lines is still one a person might reasonably hold, although for the sake of keeping the peace my suggestion to Anthonycole would be to keep such responses off the article talkpage and take it to the individual user instead. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:11, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- I see it more of a slap at those who chose to retain the images rather than a literal apology. This isn't the first time, he's been carping at Talk:Muhammad/images too pretty much from the moment the RfC closed. I'll give him a bit of rope for now and see how far he runs with it I guess. Thanks. Tarc (talk) 19:36, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)Tarc initially left a message on my talkpage, so I figured I should respond I'd pretty much echo Fut.Perf., with the addendum that if you're going to leave a message for Anthonyhcole, you should probably say the same thing to Veritycheck, because Veritycheck basically did the same thing. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:38, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- I see it more of a slap at those who chose to retain the images rather than a literal apology. This isn't the first time, he's been carping at Talk:Muhammad/images too pretty much from the moment the RfC closed. I'll give him a bit of rope for now and see how far he runs with it I guess. Thanks. Tarc (talk) 19:36, 15 June 2012 (UTC)