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::::Of course I have no intention of taking legal action. Nor do I know what the affected students or their lawyers may do. I am not one of them. [[Special:Contributions/72.194.125.162|72.194.125.162]] ([[User talk:72.194.125.162|talk]]) 21:15, 5 October 2014 (UTC) |
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Article Hala l' Badr
Hello, Doug.
I received an email from you today regarding the edits that I did on the article [l Badr]. You deleted my edits and you said they may be/were a conflict of interest. It is true that I edited the wiki page and I am the author of the paper linked; my article on this subject was published in a peer reviewed journal (Journal for the Study of the Old Testament), and I am working on this topic for my thesis/dissertation. I didn't think that the details I added on the wiki page were unnecessarily biased. Perhaps I shouldn't have linked my academia.edu page, but that could have easily been erased. I didn't say anywhere in the article that the views I was presenting were right or better than the preceding theories; I was adding new evidence. I find it disturbing that you deleted/reverted my edits and did not include me on the people who have advocated for this theory. It seems to me that you have a biased approach to the subject, since the spin of the article is now negative towards the connection of Sinai with Badr. You spend much more time and focus in the article on views that argue against the evidence presented by people such as Beke, Humphreys, and of course you deleted my edits/article dealing with the subject in full. My article and edits to the wiki page also dealt with geological data from Badr, something which many previous studies do not.
Secondly, there are several problems with the article as it now stands: First of all, it's Mount Baghir, not Birghir (as you have now added this to the article). I suggest you also research Jean Koenig more, who is only mentioned in passing in this article. He wrote a book (Le Site all Jaws dans l'ancien pays de Madian) which is cited, but nothing from it is discussed. Again, this article really only presents views against the theory, not for it.
I welcome you to write back.
Best Jacob (Israelite Historian)
--- I noticed a similar pattern regarding this admin's reversion of my religious contributions to an article regarding the Book of Exodus (except I have no conflict of interest). It shouldn't matter whether or not this admin believes in God. What should matter is the truth. So much for transparency. It's really sad that some people live to spread disinformation in the name of truth. Oh and by the way, please don't forget to revert this post.. Thepasta (talk) 13:34, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- Minor point - the spelling I used was the spelling in the source I gave. The editor who posted the above, IsraeliteHistorian, sorted things out and we have no problems with each other. As for User:Thepasta, the edit I reverted starting " It is worth noting that an alternate translation reads" adding a Joseph Smith translation. Two points - one, we never tell readers what is worth noting. That's original research or editorial comment and not our roles. Secondly, we don't rely on primary sources to add material. If you'd found a source that met our criteria at WP:RS discussing the two translations that might have been useful and acceptable in the article. It's my bad that I didn't explain that to you on your talk page, and for that I apologise. Dougweller (talk) 14:01, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- WP:UNDUE would apply also - Joseph Smith is pretty fringe so far as Bible articles go. Maybe in an article directly relevant to Mormonism. Dougweller (talk) 17:50, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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Block of Arvindnirvana
Hi Doug, I just wanted to mention that given your block of Arvindnirvana (talk · contribs) was for 3RR it seems a little controversial (due to INVOLVED) as you were one of the editors reverting their edits on the article. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:22, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Asked for a review at ANI and explained why I blocked - should have made it clearer this appears to be a sock. Dougweller (talk) 08:47, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Request for Intervention
Doug, Hi. There is a question about what is considered worthy or not worthy of publishing on a WP article page in terms of photos because of what may or may not be perceived by others as distasteful (bad taste). The editor, User:PacificWarrior101, had posted a Commons photograph of Israeli singer and transgender, Dana International, a photograph which I personally feel shows bad taste and tends to "flout" the dignity and self-respect of the Yemenite Jewish people. I voiced my concerns to the editor about my feelings of repugnancy evoked by the picture on a main article page, Yemenite Jews, that treats on ethnicity, and to a large extent, the history of Yemenite Jews. Most Yemenite Jews will feel a sense of shame by seeing this photo of "Dana International" on the page that speaks specifically about them as a people - and who, by the way, are mostly conservative to religious. While I have no personal problems about discussing issues of transgender, here the matter is different. Dana International's photograph on the main page of an article which treats on ethnicity is tantamount to putting up an image of a serial killer on an ethnicity page. Or, let's say, Israeli troops shooting at an Arab child, on a page which speaks on Israeli ethnicity. There should be a place for common considerations as for what is tactful and what is not, particularly when the photo is controversial and evokes shame. See the Talk page on Yemenite Jews, and the sub-section: "Flouting an Ethnic Group." Any advice will be much appreciated by you.Davidbena (talk) 15:11, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Link to prove the name of D. J. Sindh Government Science College
Hi there, Sorry for replying late as I became very busy and couldn't provide the link to verify the name. Coming back to topic I have provided a link of a website which is managed and maintained by the original members of the Board Of Intermediate Education Karachi of Government Of Pakistan which controls the D. J. Science College. If you search on the given link you find that D. J. Science College is originally written as D. J. Sindh Govt. Science College
Verification Link http://www.biek.edu.pk/gmaleCol.asp ZaeemAkhtr (talk) 18:22, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
User:68.100.172.139
Hi. Please teach this IP user how to behave on Wikipedia. He just reverts other user's edits and accuses I and another user to be a sock of a blocked user. I'm really tired of discussing with him. I also reported this situaton to two other administrators. Keivan.fTalk 20:38, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Done. Dougweller (talk) 06:01, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Fringe POV pusher in need of a long block
Brianmathe (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has returned from a block, and the first thing he did was a repetition of what he was blocked for. -- Brangifer (talk) 02:05, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- There is a filing at EWNB. - - MrBill3 (talk) 02:18, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- @MrBill3: Good work, he's gone for good. Dougweller (talk) 06:05, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Aggressive POV pusher
There are some personal details in this section above that you may wish to redact per policy. Britmax (talk) 08:31, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- What type of information could that have been, and which policy? -- Brangifer (talk) 15:55, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- Template:Ping:BullRangiferThe name and email address and phone number of an IP who's been adding to a timeline and wanted to discuss it with me, offering me a copy of his timeline. The problem is that it has no sources. He was adding stuff to prehistoric century articles. Dougweller (talk) 16:06, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Nominating After Saturday Comes Sunday for deletion
Hi, as per the Talk page, I just nominated this page for deletion. Cheers. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 13:37, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Unsourced
The War on terror revert you just made is not questionable...but I can't find sourcing for any of that paragraph in the inline citation which appears to aggregate content from other articles. Were you able to find it? Also, what is your opinion of icasualties.org as a RS?--Mark Miller (talk) 21:19, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- Mark Miller didn't look to be honest, replied at RSN with details saying yes. Dougweller (talk) 17:46, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Zipporah
Why did you revert my quotation from Exodus from the Book of Mormon? How could you say it was not relevant? Thepasta (talk) 13:27, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- Replied above where editor also asked. Dougweller (talk) 17:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Research help available
I have access to Cochrane, BMJ, OUP and HighBeam. If needed for research etc. Drop a note on my talk. Best. - - MrBill3 (talk) 14:16, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- MrBill3 Thanks, and let me know if you need Jstor. Dougweller (talk) 15:56, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Dear Dougweller
Your name suggests you are non-Indian and non-Hindu. You should know about the caste-system of Hinduism , then you must have restored the contents about two Odia Hindu saints who belong to Karan-subcaste. For your kind information , please visit Odisha and examine whether Karans are Dalits or not. If you do this again, you are doing 'Vandalism' in the name of Castes.
Karans belong to higher castes and are not Shudras. Karans are next to Brahmins and are socially and economically well-off people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bitthalns (talk • contribs) 12:21, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Dear Dougweller
Are you an wikipedia-employee??? If yes, Jimmy Wales must know about you. If no , what is ur authority to create absurd pages with wrong informations ?
I don't care about what you think , and i don't want people to get wrong informations. So,please co-operate.
Editing request:
Could you please include the following images within the article of Greene's Tutorial College Oxford? There's an picture of the school building and another of the college's emblem: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTL7MTNAtVNJFC6_aSe119W4vG745lSTIwBVwXTuV8NxCX4mH3Pnw https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrToVcR6nXjwpMv_ENfN2fnAQCQ1xDsCJ2wqlnMkai71b4_-9l — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.201.217.49 (talk) 15:51, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not an image person, sorry. I think the emblem could be uploaded as Fair use, but I also think it's too poor an image. Not sure about the building. Sorry. Take a look at Wikipedia:Images or better yet ask at the WP:Help desk. Dougweller (talk) 16:08, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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ElNiñoMonstruo
Hi sorry to bother you with this. But ElNiñoMonstruo is back again wanting to start an edit war again. Now reverted my edits on each item that I edit, reverted my edits without giving any reason or a valid reason. As it has done in the following articles: Ikaw Lamang, Pure Love (TV series), List of telenovelas of ABS-CBN and Hawak Kamay (TV series). A moment ago, he had vandalized is template and his only answer was: "Please delete this unnecessary template." I have tried to ask the user to please start a new edit war on all items I mentioned. But I do not think this person ignore me and talk to him is almost impossible. Here I give a proof of what I say [1]. This user is impossible to reach an agreement or try to talk to the not interested in reaching any agreement.--McVeigh (talk) 01:36, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- ElNiñoMonstruo, DON'T remove messages here! diff Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:23, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Corona del Mar High School
I'm not clear what you are proposing to accomplish by blocking any changes to this article for three days. The history page for the article clearly shows editing stopped upon DaltonHird's request at its last edit - despite DaltonHird's prior edit warring - as I respectfully awaited an arbitration which would recognize that its biased edits to the introductory paragraph belonged in the Controversies section if in the article at all.
What are you doing to advance resolution of this dispute? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.194.125.162 (talk) 03:32, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- There's probably the twofold purpose of refocusing things on discussion instead of reverting, and letting previously uninvolved editors get involved. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:44, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Not clear what else needs to be said by other editors. As an administrator you should ensure the article is impartial and that reported events are weighted appropriately. Clearly the article in its present state gives undue weight to isolated events, criticisms, and news reports that are vastly disproportionate to the overall outstanding reputation and history of this academic institution. By way of comparison, is the famous Naval Academy cheating scandal( http://tech.mit.edu/V114/N24/cheating.24w.html ) prominently featured in the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article about that illustrious institution? Absolutely not, nor should it be. Isolated events will occasionally occur but they are not the defining feature of an academic institution. It is worth mentioning that DaltonHird, the Wikipedia editor whose edit war resulted in your protecting this page (and whose edits remain in the protected version)admittedly has a feminist POV, thus claims the school has "serious social problems resulting in several high-profile instances of sexism, homophobia, gender-related violence". These slurs do not belong in the article, especially where there already is a Controversies section repeating them.
- Just jumping in here, why not start a section on the article talk page discussion the undue weight in the lead (which I'm inclined to agree with). While Wikipedia is not censored (and the section on controversies should stay), I think the inclusion of these controversies right at the start of the article is not encyclopedic. SeaphotoTalk 04:06, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Of course I have no intention of taking legal action. Nor do I know what the affected students or their lawyers may do. I am not one of them. 72.194.125.162 (talk) 21:15, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Another of the User:Dean of Nectarines socks
Can you get this one too? Stopphippo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Thanks! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:18, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- TheRedPenOfDoom Oh there's more, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/WindyPegg. Dougweller (talk) 16:24, 3 October 2014 (UTC) Dougweller (talk) 16:27, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello Dougweller, the user you blocked for 24 hours a few weeks ago: Kanbei85 is back and reverting again on the same article: Biblical manuscript without starting a discussion. My defense towards the edit was and still is violating WP:NOR as it comes from the scholar's personal website. Please resolve this issue this time as permanently --Cheers-- JudeccaXIII (talk) 21:49, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Please comment on OTRS COI disclosure
I have posted to PUMP, VRT and FTNB regarding my belief there is a need for COI disclosure on OTRS team edits driven by secret correspondence, please comment if you see fit. Thanks. - - MrBill3 (talk) 06:03, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
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Issues requiring admin attention
There are numerous things going on at ANI that could use a look. Among them are allegations of sockpuppetry by two parties an editor without evidence, a strange (to me) request directed to AE, and some WP:bludgeoning which has become disruptive. diff I suppose the allegation of "being set up by a group of user accounts working together" could imply tag teaming in addition to the specific accusation of sockpuppetry. Either way, it's casting aspersions and an assumption of bad faith. Ignocrates (talk) 21:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- This request is very, very wrong for two reasons. First, user accounts working together does NOT equal sock puppetry! Secondly, to go to an admin, who has had serious issues with an editor and there is bad blood between the two and there is no chance of the admin. being objective and ask him to intervene is a serious Wikipedia violation! - Ret.Prof (talk) 22:59, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- First, given your statement "user accounts working together does NOT equal sock puppetry" how do you explain your request for a sockpuppet investigation? diff Second, if you feel an admin "had serious issues with an editor" in the past, you can ask that admin to recuse and refer the matter to another admin. Saying "there is no chance of the admin. being objective" is a personal attack. Why would you attack an admin on their own talk page that isn't even aware of the request yet? There is something "very, very wrong" with your sense of WP:Wikiquette. Please read up on it. Ignocrates (talk) 23:37, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- When it comes to me, I do not think Doug can be objective. That is not meant as a personal attack. We do have quite a history. I suspect he will agree and recuse himself. In any event I apologize for any misunderstanding. As a token of good faith I have struck the comment you found offensive. Wishing you both the best. Cheers - Ret.Prof (talk) 23:47, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- First, given your statement "user accounts working together does NOT equal sock puppetry" how do you explain your request for a sockpuppet investigation? diff Second, if you feel an admin "had serious issues with an editor" in the past, you can ask that admin to recuse and refer the matter to another admin. Saying "there is no chance of the admin. being objective" is a personal attack. Why would you attack an admin on their own talk page that isn't even aware of the request yet? There is something "very, very wrong" with your sense of WP:Wikiquette. Please read up on it. Ignocrates (talk) 23:37, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Per Ret.Prof's comments on EdJohnston's talk page, he struck more of his comments at ANI. There's not a lot more to say here, except that Ret.Prof's actions precipitated an AE investigation, and actions have consequences. I have responded there, and hopefully that's enough to take care of it. Ignocrates (talk) 01:55, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for your message. I have removed this template. At the first place, I thought it was general because admins also do the same work as we do with Twinkle like tagging articles and warning users etc. These are also administrator tasks but I think you are right, this template only belongs to admins. Owais khursheed (talk) 10:31, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Page Protection
Second last edit on Zo people dates back to 22 June 2014. Today you have imposed full protection. What has happened? Bladesmulti (talk) 10:56, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Bladesmulti Sorry - meant to protect Zomi which has been a redirect and protected the article it redirects to in error. Fixed. Thanks. The editor who turned the redirect back into another article on the same people is asking about it at Talk:Zomi. But of course we can only have on article on them. I guess the next thing will be him changing the content. Dougweller (talk) 11:38, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
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Uthman
I am the one who put the data on that page and I made a mistake so i removed some of the data--Misconceptions2 (talk) 17:44, 5 October 2014 (UTC)