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:Notice the word people. I never said you specifically. I was stating the general purpose of what ATH and NSPORT does. It protects articles of people from pre-internet time from people who only do google searchs. If you infer that to mean yourself, that is your choice. I have no way in knowing if the reason you personally didn't search news paper archives (which sometimes can be found online) was due to laziness or lack of knowledge of them or any other reason. But the overwhelming reason people point to ATHLETE to save an article is because the nominator did not make a good faith attempt to find sources. Or indeed post a message on the talk page about the articles notability which it also mentions you should do prior to nominating. -[[User:Djsasso|DJSasso]] ([[User talk:Djsasso#top|talk]]) 12:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC) |
:Notice the word people. I never said you specifically. I was stating the general purpose of what ATH and NSPORT does. It protects articles of people from pre-internet time from people who only do google searchs. If you infer that to mean yourself, that is your choice. I have no way in knowing if the reason you personally didn't search news paper archives (which sometimes can be found online) was due to laziness or lack of knowledge of them or any other reason. But the overwhelming reason people point to ATHLETE to save an article is because the nominator did not make a good faith attempt to find sources. Or indeed post a message on the talk page about the articles notability which it also mentions you should do prior to nominating. -[[User:Djsasso|DJSasso]] ([[User talk:Djsasso#top|talk]]) 12:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC) |
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::"from the pre-internet era from being deleted because '''you''' couldn't find sources on a google search". You were directly talking to me, and it is clear from your comment that it was me you were meaning. "Comment on the issue not the contributor". As it happens, I did what searches I could using online sources, which include the local library access to reference works. Nope this didn't include the local papers, because they are not available. That is more research than whoever started the article did, so saying it is lazy not to spend time and money going to visit an archive is ridiculous and insulting. [[User:Quantpole|Quantpole]] ([[User talk:Quantpole|talk]]) 12:16, 29 June 2010 (UTC) |
::"from the pre-internet era from being deleted because '''you''' couldn't find sources on a google search". You were directly talking to me, and it is clear from your comment that it was me you were meaning. "Comment on the issue not the contributor". As it happens, I did what searches I could using online sources, which include the local library access to reference works. Nope this didn't include the local papers, because they are not available. That is more research than whoever started the article did, so saying it is lazy not to spend time and money going to visit an archive is ridiculous and insulting. [[User:Quantpole|Quantpole]] ([[User talk:Quantpole|talk]]) 12:16, 29 June 2010 (UTC) |
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:::No I meant you as in the general sense. You are trying to make this about you, and its not. -[[User:Djsasso|DJSasso]] ([[User talk:Djsasso#top|talk]]) 12:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC) |
:::No I meant you as in the general sense. You are trying to make this about you, and its not. Maybe if you would talk rationally instead of constantly swearing at people and attacking them you might get farther. But what do I know, acting like an ass might work too. -[[User:Djsasso|DJSasso]] ([[User talk:Djsasso#top|talk]]) 12:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC) |
Revision as of 12:20, 29 June 2010
Nepean Raiders
Could you please have a look at the Nepean Raiders article. It seems that User:Icehockeynepean, possibly affiliated with the team, is edit-warring my reversions. He seems to be weasel wording Garry Galley (in my opinion anyways)... who was a coach of the team for a short while. I changed the content in an attempt to make it more neutral... but he has reverted twice on me. I don't want to get into 3RR territory... so I was hoping you could look at the situation. DMighton (talk) 20:08, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- User seems to now have a sock puppet... User:Ottawajudge ... is also making threats of some sort... DMighton (talk) 03:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think he just violated Wikipedia:No legal threats, where do we proceed from here?DMighton (talk) 16:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- Already ahead of you, blocked for doing so and reverted. -DJSasso (talk) 16:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- I came across him on RC patrol and came over to see what's going on - I think I just reverted him as User:Brokencue. Hopefully a third person (me) will give him the message we're not going to put up with this stuff. It's a BLP violation as far as I'm concerned. - KrakatoaKatie 02:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- Reverted again... this time with this name User:Happygo1234. DMighton (talk) 04:12, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- I am in the process of filling out a Sock Puppet investigation. DMighton (talk) 04:21, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- If you would like to state your observations: [1].DMighton (talk) 04:48, 29 May 2010 (UTC) I did it wrong... it's here now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Icehockeynepean . DMighton (talk) 04:54, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- All accounts blocked indef. for sock puppetry and legal threats. Thanks for all the advice. DMighton (talk) 05:48, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Duffdachinaman
You have admin rights, right? Duffdachinaman is an obvious block evading sock of indef-blocked User:Anoopandshaq. ccwaters (talk) 18:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah I am watching him and will block him the moment he continues edit warring. I don't really want to go into another sock puppet situation...had too many of them lately. -DJSasso (talk) 18:50, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- It may already be a "situation". Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Anoopandshaq ccwaters (talk) 23:44, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Senators
Ok. I will make it fit the template on the wp:hockey page. Let me work. Stay away for a little while before further revisions, ok? ʘ alaney2k ʘ (talk) 15:45, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Now, take a look. It follows the template under Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Team pages format. I put the logo and etc. stuff into Team History section. Created a new Leaders section. I retained the all-time but that does not have to stay. I have to verify the coaching records stuff and source it. Plus the same for the scoring leaders. People are lazy when they update this stuff. I'll have to source it to keep the GA rating. ʘ alaney2k ʘ (talk) 16:25, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
@NHL Records
Do notice that it is idd 'NHL' records, not Gretzky fanboy records. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.27.111.167 (talk) 15:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- Right and we list the record and then list that someone else had more points in their first season, while not officially being counted as a rookie. This is done for a number of reasons, one being that someone is likely to want to know who had the most points in their first season in the NHL. Another to make it clear there is/was controversy surrounding who holds that record. The same thing has been done in the past for other records in other sports. As long as we make clear the official record is held by Selanne then we are in the clear. The information in the brackets is additional information that helps the reader get a better understanding of the background of the record. -DJSasso (talk) 15:32, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Blackhawks Parade in Chicago
Is there an article or section somewhere regarding the parade in Chicago yesterday? My understanding is that the turnout was substantial (~2million). Would you be willing to get some free images of the parade on flickr, or somewhere else? Thanks in advance for the help! ---kilbad (talk) 15:46, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
This looks like a job for a wikignome with a script...
DASHbot is running around changing legendsofhockey links to archive.org links because the HHOF has made a small update to some of its URL strings: (See changes at Stanley Cup). The old URL in these cases had legendsofhockey.net:8080/... . It looks like the HHOF has changed things such that port 8080 no longer gets you to the target page. These links are fixed by removing :8080 (as I did here), but I suspect there are a bunch of similar links left, as well as articles affected by DASHbot. Any suggestions on how to quickly and easily fix these links? Resolute 19:10, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- I can see if I can figure something out. I am not sure if there is anything I can do once he has changed them, but I will check. As for ones not changed yet, there is a way to search links so I could probably search them and manually change them to the legends template. -DJSasso (talk) 11:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
AIK Move
Hi there mate, could you help me with a move? I tried doing it my self but was referred to a request page which looked overloaded, so I thought this would get it done quicker. I want AIK Ishockey to be moved to AIK IF (currently a redirect to AIK Ishockey), the official name is AIK Ishockeyförening and since all other Swedish teams use abbreviations for their article name on Wikipedia (and by the Swedish Ice Hockey Association) this one should too. Also this avoids using Swedish words in the article title on English Wikipedia. Cheers! —Krm500 (Communicate!) 22:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- Done -DJSasso (talk) 23:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- I do not think this is a good idea:
- First of all, the official website uses AIK Ishockey consistently.
- Secondly, the trend is that Scandinavian sport clubs like AIK, VIF and AaB, all start dividing their club sports into own entities like AIK Ishockey (ice hockey), Vålerenga Fotball (football) and AaB Håndbold (handball).
- Third and finally, this move will make the article name more ambiguous, as the abbreviation IF also means Idrettsförening (English: Sports club); like in Djurgårdens IF, where the ice hockey department currently is located at Djurgårdens IF Hockey. (This page should rather be changed to Djurgården Hockey, like their legal name and as shown in their logo.)
- I will move the article in question back to its original name space, and suggest you start a WP:Requested move if you still mean it should be moved. Regards, lil2mas (talk) 00:02, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- I do not think this is a good idea:
List of college men's ice hockey coaches with 300 career wins
I believe you are one of the main guys in the hockey project and appreciate your help cleaning up a couple of the hockey articles I started this week (e.g. Tim Coghlin and Mike McShane (ice hockey)). My main interest is in college sports, and I've created a new List of college men's ice hockey coaches with 300 career wins. My plan is to create new or improve existing articles on some of the most notable college hockey coaches. I'm working now on Bill Beaney. As I am new to hockey articles (having worked mostly on baseball and football articles), any suggestions you may have would be welcome. Cbl62 (talk) 18:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
- Certainly will take a look. So far looks pretty good. Just make sure to find what references you can. Coaches below the top pro league in hockey tend to get questioned alot as far as Afd's go. So just make sure you source what you create and you should be good to go. -DJSasso (talk) 18:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
pending changes
I was trying to reject the latest edit on Gretzky, but the 'Unaccept' button did not become clickable. What was going on? Was there more than one edit pending? ʘ alaney2k ʘ (talk) 19:37, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
- Probably caused by me just hitting rollback as opposed to unaccept. -DJSasso (talk) 19:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I never seen the unaccept button clickable so I just rollback/revert if it's vandalism. Anyhow, DJSasso could you delete the articles I prod'ed since they now are redirects leading to Heymid's userspace instead. —Krm500 (Communicate!) 21:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
what's this then?
[2] Quantpole (talk) 12:04, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- Notice the word people. I never said you specifically. I was stating the general purpose of what ATH and NSPORT does. It protects articles of people from pre-internet time from people who only do google searchs. If you infer that to mean yourself, that is your choice. I have no way in knowing if the reason you personally didn't search news paper archives (which sometimes can be found online) was due to laziness or lack of knowledge of them or any other reason. But the overwhelming reason people point to ATHLETE to save an article is because the nominator did not make a good faith attempt to find sources. Or indeed post a message on the talk page about the articles notability which it also mentions you should do prior to nominating. -DJSasso (talk) 12:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- "from the pre-internet era from being deleted because you couldn't find sources on a google search". You were directly talking to me, and it is clear from your comment that it was me you were meaning. "Comment on the issue not the contributor". As it happens, I did what searches I could using online sources, which include the local library access to reference works. Nope this didn't include the local papers, because they are not available. That is more research than whoever started the article did, so saying it is lazy not to spend time and money going to visit an archive is ridiculous and insulting. Quantpole (talk) 12:16, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- No I meant you as in the general sense. You are trying to make this about you, and its not. Maybe if you would talk rationally instead of constantly swearing at people and attacking them you might get farther. But what do I know, acting like an ass might work too. -DJSasso (talk) 12:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- "from the pre-internet era from being deleted because you couldn't find sources on a google search". You were directly talking to me, and it is clear from your comment that it was me you were meaning. "Comment on the issue not the contributor". As it happens, I did what searches I could using online sources, which include the local library access to reference works. Nope this didn't include the local papers, because they are not available. That is more research than whoever started the article did, so saying it is lazy not to spend time and money going to visit an archive is ridiculous and insulting. Quantpole (talk) 12:16, 29 June 2010 (UTC)