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::Paranoid is posting [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Le_Grand_Roi_des_Citrouilles this] drivel after I replied to one of Rob's posts that we can seek mediation after my trip or just agree to disagree and move on. Not following policies is continuing to post on that discussion after two admins indicated it was resolved. I really hoped to keep the evidence that I had on Rob's proxy editing to myself and to never have to post it here. I even avoided AfDs for two days in the hopes that he would finally ignore me and move on. Now, I have to get my things ready for the trip, but let's just put it this way, if you leave me alone Rob and stop worrying about me and all, then I will not need to reply. If you have any more incivil comments to or about me, keep them to yourself. I'll happily do the same for you if you can finally return respect my way. There is a simple solution. You don't post anything further to or about me and I don't post anything further to or about you. Let's just end it right here and now. Walk away from this post on and let's instead focus on bettering this project. I have a mentor, I correspond with admins for advice and I have greatly improved my editing habits over the past few months. I know we ALL can still improve further, but you have gone about advising me in an overly confrontational way that has helped nothing. Let's just forget about each other. Your posting at ANI was so uncalled for and hurtful after I in good faith offered to agree to disagree and/or seek mediation at a later time and especially after I intentionally avoided AfDs from that point onwards to ease tensions. I really hoped to not have to post in Alkivar's arbitration the evidence I compiled and had you let the matter rest for once, I probably wouldn't have. I didn't do it out of revenge, but just in the hopes that these months of criticizing me, trying to find someone who could punish me because I disagree with you on notability, etc. would finally end. I think you'll find editing this site much better if you just walk away and never think about me again. I will once again offer to ignore you and I hope that you will finally do the same. Sincerely, --<font face="Times New Roman">[[User:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles|<span style="color:#009">Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles</span>]]</font><sup>''[[User talk:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles|Tally-ho!]]''</sup> 06:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC) |
::Paranoid is posting [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Le_Grand_Roi_des_Citrouilles this] drivel after I replied to one of Rob's posts that we can seek mediation after my trip or just agree to disagree and move on. Not following policies is continuing to post on that discussion after two admins indicated it was resolved. I really hoped to keep the evidence that I had on Rob's proxy editing to myself and to never have to post it here. I even avoided AfDs for two days in the hopes that he would finally ignore me and move on. Now, I have to get my things ready for the trip, but let's just put it this way, if you leave me alone Rob and stop worrying about me and all, then I will not need to reply. If you have any more incivil comments to or about me, keep them to yourself. I'll happily do the same for you if you can finally return respect my way. There is a simple solution. You don't post anything further to or about me and I don't post anything further to or about you. Let's just end it right here and now. Walk away from this post on and let's instead focus on bettering this project. I have a mentor, I correspond with admins for advice and I have greatly improved my editing habits over the past few months. I know we ALL can still improve further, but you have gone about advising me in an overly confrontational way that has helped nothing. Let's just forget about each other. Your posting at ANI was so uncalled for and hurtful after I in good faith offered to agree to disagree and/or seek mediation at a later time and especially after I intentionally avoided AfDs from that point onwards to ease tensions. I really hoped to not have to post in Alkivar's arbitration the evidence I compiled and had you let the matter rest for once, I probably wouldn't have. I didn't do it out of revenge, but just in the hopes that these months of criticizing me, trying to find someone who could punish me because I disagree with you on notability, etc. would finally end. I think you'll find editing this site much better if you just walk away and never think about me again. I will once again offer to ignore you and I hope that you will finally do the same. Sincerely, --<font face="Times New Roman">[[User:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles|<span style="color:#009">Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles</span>]]</font><sup>''[[User talk:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles|Tally-ho!]]''</sup> 06:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC) |
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:::I had every right to post that new section, as your behaviour is unacceptable. These recent paranoid accustations are further proof you need better guidance on Wikipedia. You wont ignore me and you know it. I nominate things you love, so of course you will commment in them. That's certainly not ignoring. Frankly if I do see your behaviour continue, I will bring it up to a conduct page. I'm not going to ignore an editor that clearly has poor conduct. [[User:RobJ1981|RobJ1981]] 17:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Hey, Chaser!
Hey, there! So how has it been? I even finally updated my little website! And, yes.. I do have a website. And a domain.--The source of the cosmos... 14:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
- Good. Sorry the Hubert idea didn't work out. Do you have any others?--chaser - t 18:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Sockpuppet
Just wanted to say thanks for your input at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/MadDeafNut. - Rjd0060 14:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Most recent approach to discussions and articles
Dear Chaser, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/99 Ways to Die (song). I came upon a discussion with all deletes, but then did a search on the article and found that in its previous version the article did not contain much, but after some quick research, I was able to expand and clean up the article by adding references from The New York Times and Time and expanding its notability by discovering that in addition to appearing on two albums the song is a Grammy nominee: [1], [2], [3], [4]. Does the above seem like the right approach to take? Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 01:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Good work.--chaser - t 03:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Cool! Thanks! :) The effort to improve the article seems to have been worthwhile and I thanked J Milburn for his fairness. Also, I do seem to be having more people agreeing with my arguments now. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 03:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- By the way, per Durova's request, I did search for and have found another hoax article in which I could vote delete as a means of showing that I can opine in that fashion on occasion: [5]. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 16:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Cool! Thanks! :) The effort to improve the article seems to have been worthwhile and I thanked J Milburn for his fairness. Also, I do seem to be having more people agreeing with my arguments now. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 03:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Labour India
I would had re-created the article about Labour india as Labour India is one of the well-known brand name in Kerala’s educational functionaries. Therefore, I request you that do not delete that article and remove speedy deeltion templates--Avinesh Jose 05:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you
I appreciate your time and effort on the User:KingKull sockpuppet case. It's good of you and the other admins who volunteer their time. Good wishes, --Tenebrae 05:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Tim Drake
It's in the books not in the web. How do I cite that?Brian Boru is awesome 16:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC) That's where it was from how'd I do? Brian Boru is awesome 00:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
hubert
Hey, Chaser:
I'm the co-author (with wife Claire Montgomery) of "Hubert Invents the Wheel." How about dropping me a note thru our website, www.claireandmonte.com? Maybe I can help you out --
Monte Montgomery —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.85.62.35 (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Green Kirby Request For Adminship
There is a frequent contributor to mainly the talk page of Super Smash Bros. Brawl. He is only 13 years old and often makes forum-like discussions, then gets angry when they're deleted. Well recently he added himself to become a manager, and obviously didn't do it right. If possible, Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Green_Kirby, can you go ahead and close that, and send him a message. I feel he is a good kid at heart, but doesn't have any experience, doesn't really follow talk page rules, and isn't much of a contributor. Thanks a lot. Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 23:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't attend to this sooner, but it looks like others have already offered friendly advice (except for that bit at the end from Sukecchi). The RFA doesn't actually become live unless transcluded to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship and current practice isn't to close them until that happens. I'll drop him a note about forums.--chaser - t 05:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot, he is a good kid, but gets carried away with forum-esque discussions on the talk pages. Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 05:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- You're welcome.--chaser - t 05:37, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- I just saw your post in his talk page, and want to thank you a lot for your help. You did it in the best way possible. Thank you for your help again, and I am sure others will thank you. Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 05:40, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- You're welcome.--chaser - t 05:37, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- I understand what you mean. I'm trying to do better, but I don't know. I should do more things before I become an admin.Green Kirby 21:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot, he is a good kid, but gets carried away with forum-esque discussions on the talk pages. Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 05:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Chaser, it looks like an open and shut case to me, but if you think there's more to do, then go ahead. I've unarchived the case. If you could clean the case up and remove irrelevant comments that might be really helpful, because in its current form the case looked like a bunch of Wikilawyering. --Akhilleus (talk) 18:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Re - Article Talk Pages
It would be nice if you could mentor me. I do need help. I also responded to what you said on my talk page about me making threats.Green Kirby 00:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Chaser
I'm trying to build the article at user talk:joseane/Tristan Tondino. If you had a minute to look at it, you're opinion would be much appreciated.Joseane 00:08, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
When updating DYK...
Make sure that you post all templates to their respective pages, and add the articles to Wikipedia:Recent additions. You didn't do these step after updating, so this caused a bit of trouble. Just pointing it out for next time. Wizardman 15:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for implementing the update, which is the most important task. There are various administrative tasks (adding talk page notification templates, archiving, updating the time template) but someone usually manages to clean up if they are left out. -- !! ?? 21:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
You have mail!
Dear Chaser, I just sent you an email. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 17:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
deletion review
Thanks. I could not tell if combination was allowed. And this is the first time I have done such a thing. Hmains 04:12, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Review thread
Re [6]. I wouldn't bother blocking if I were you. Let him turn his anger wheels for a while and wear himself out. The evidence is strong. Objective observers see that. There's little use continuing to argue with a partisan who will never be convinced, but blocking him may be counterproductive.--chaser - t 07:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Instead of blocking him i'd rather not answer him. He's clearly being disruptive and "more a Pope than the Pope himself" and this attitude against me has been noted since months now. But for the sake of ending this drama, i won't block him unless he doesn't take it seriously. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 07:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Green Kirby
Hello.
I'm Green Kirby's father. I'm proud of the way he's embraced Wikipedia, and that he's writing as well as he can. Obviously, I'm concerned with outside influences affecting his judgement. We've all heard the horror stories. Can you say anything to ease my concern so that Green Kirby can continue to grow? He spends huge chunks of time on the internet.
Thanks.
Dad of Green Kirby. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Kirby (talk • contribs) 19:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hello, sir. I'm not certain what you're referring to, so if you could clarify your concern, I would appreciate it. Besides writing articles, my goal as a member of the Wikipedia community is to encourage contributors and resolve problems. Green Kirby has been getting some grief lately about using the site as a discussion forum, but I don't see why that would affect his judgment.
- I should say that I'm not an official representative for the Wikimedia foundation. You can contact them here if you want.--chaser - t 00:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Ettumanoor
- I bring your attention towards ettumanoor. Is it ok giving all these info about 'Ettumanoor Mahadever temple' under Ettumanoor (all those info about temple is not correctly authenticated or no reference mentioned). I think it is good if someone make a separate article about that temple, if produce with proper reference.
--Avinesh Jose 08:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- See Category:Articles to be split for some guidelines on this. You don't have to ask my permission to split them. Be bold!--chaser - t 08:11, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey
I'm back.Green Kirby 20:51, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Dearest Supporter,
Orphaned non-free media (Image:Gwen.jpg)
Thanks for uploading Image:Gwen.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot 15:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Sri Lanka issues
Please see: Discussion move and Specific proposal Your participation and acceptance would be appreciated. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:18, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Sockpuppet ahoy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/David_Q._Johnson This guy was noted by someone to be a sock on one of his handful of edits *he then stopped*, which was rather obvious in the context since he was created only to vote with someone on an AfD, then nothing else. I noted this on his userpage a while back, and he eventually returned to remove it, but not complain, etc. This makes me more certain still. I have since readded it. I am not sure what the procedure is, and maybe the evidence of his edits is not enough, but I guess tag him or something, or tell someone else to. He was particularly noted here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Erik_Eastaugh_%282nd_nomination%29 Cheers.JJJ999 02:19, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, almost certainly. Any suspected sockpuppeteers? Future reports can go to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets, which is usually badly backlogged, but currently running smoothly.--chaser - t 05:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure, but you should tag him somehow. cheers.JJJ999 13:41, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well you need a suspect to add the tag. See {{sockpuppet}}. There's no point chasing a suspected sockpuppet who has become inactive.--chaser - t 17:55, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- I meant get someone to keep an eye on him, don't you have a list of suspected socks for admins to get alerts or something when they post again?JJJ999 03:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
NYC meetup change of schedule
You've expressed an interest in the upcoming New York City Meetup for Saturday, November 3. I'd like to update you on an important change of schedule.
- It's been agreed that we should have a 2-hour formal meeting period to start organizing meta:Wikimedia New York City, and this will be held at the Pacific Library (note this is different from the Brooklyn Central Library, which was discussed earlier) from 2:00 PM – 4:00 PM.
This will be in addition to the previously scheduled roving activities at the Brooklyn Botanic Garden (this activity has also been cut short a bit) and at the Brooklyn Museum. For full details, see Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC. Ask any questions at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/NYC. Thank you.--Pharos 21:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Jehovah's Witnesses and civil liberties
Please check the article Jehovah's Witnesses and civil liberties. discussion page, I have put my comments. This article may be speedy deleted. --Avinesh Jose 06:48, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
General questions
Hello! Do you have any feedback regarding this discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Television series considered the greatest ever (2nd nomination). The one thing that struck me there was the impression that I ignored this discussion, when in fact, I thought my short, but polite replies on my talk page indicated that I read and acknowledged in a friendly manner the suggestion left there and then on the AfD linked to above I made three reasons as to why I thought the article should be kept: 1) the previous AfD was less than six months ago (yes, consensus can change, but I have seen other editors argue that some of these renominations are occuring too closely after old discussions; 2) the article has references and is therefore verifiable; and 3) the article satisfies the guideline Wikipedia:Lists by being coherently organized. Anyway, I was just curious of your thoughts if those seemed reasonable and if my replies were reasonable as well. On a positive note, I received another Barnstar today for my expansion and sourcing of the Armenian Genocide article! I hope all is well with you. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 22:21, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, I see that you posted a comment on that discussion's talk page. Durova suggested in an email that I would be wiser to mention specific arguments in previous discussions in the case of renominations rather than just that it was kept and I made a practice post on her talk page if you also thought that this is more along the lines of how to use previous discussions. As always, I appreciate your time and effort and hope that I'll be able to get this down! I hope all is well with you! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 03:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Old reversion
Hi, I recently edited a article on El Al that you rightly unedited, I think you sent me the message "lol" im sorry I didnt reply, im new to wikipedia and didnt know how. I wasnt vandalising or anything I just thought the article was a farce, In my opinion there is a blatant misuse of the term humanitarian, there is nothing human about selectively helping people who are only in your caste or creed, I see that as racism. However I wasnt prepared to get into an online debate with Jewish "nationalists" over an article, having had previous experience of attempting that. Anyway I just wanted to clarify the reasons behind my scrupulous editing because I appreciate the good work you people do to clean such rubbish up. Keep it up! regards Dr S —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mokhs (talk • contribs) 23:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
scientific jury selection
--GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 18:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Get GreenKirby under control
He came onto my user page and removed the userbox that states I'm gay and I wished I had a boyfriend; stating they "weren't necessary and that he didn't want other gay users to feel 'turned on'". I am very upset over this. I don't care if he's "just trying to help". He has offended me. Get him under control. -Sukecchi 10:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've blocked him until the article content to drama ratio improves.--chaser - t 10:42, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello badge
Hi. I made a Wiki Hello badge in case anyone's interested in using it for the Meetup. It's on the Meetup page. Nightscream 16:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Sri Lanka resolution
Pls see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sri_Lanka_Reconciliation#Sri_Lanka_articles_dispute_resolution_in_effect. Thanks for helping. — Rlevse • Talk • —Preceding comment was added at 23:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
New Userbox
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This user is respected by Tinkleheimer and has done great work in Tinkleheimer's eyes. |
I made my very first userbox and am passing it out. I won't be terribly offended if don't put it on your page. And if you want to make one for yourself, just create a subpage under your user page and just copy/paste the code from User:Tinkleheimer/RespectedByTinkleheimer. Thanks!!Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 03:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Happy Halloween!
As Halloween is my favorite holiday, I just wanted to wish my twenty favorite fellow Wikipedians a Happy Halloween! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 04:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. Happy halloween! I must confess that the main reason I'm looking forward to this evening is that ArbCom candidates will start to declare.--chaser - t 15:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
User:Jc37/Userboxes/NYB4Arbcom
- You are welcome! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 16:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Green Kirby #4
Hello, Chaser: So let me get this straight. My son deleted the unsoliceted sexual oriatation of one of your users, this user came crying to you, you've disciplened my son because, after all, this site is academic. Does anyone reaaly care who's gay and who isn't? There is nothing vague about what I'm requesting from you. If you want to mentor my son then so be it; but the silly little banter I've seen on these discussion pages make all of you seem like children. Let's see, do I need to tell you that I'm not gay? Is that important? Can the gay guy handle his own business or will you come to his defense each time. I think my sosn's actions regarding this idiot's site were apprpriate, since Wikipedia is not a forum to dance around declaring your sexual preference. Gee, makes you wonder what he doesn't reveal. Have a nice day. Dad of Green Kirby. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Kirby (talk • contribs) 23:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, sir. It's more than that. It's the fact that your son came onto my user page (which is not an actual article people look to for information and edit) and removed items I put on there. He has no business editing my user page. That is my own page that I may put whatever I wish on it, as long as it is not overly offensive. I did not tell chaser to block your son. I asked chaser, as his mentor, to get him under control. That meant he could do anything, talk to him and explain why not to do that. No, he decided the best course of action would be to block him. We have all moved on, he has been unblocked, and I have wished your son luck in becoming a better editor. I suggest you do the same. Thank you and I hope you have a safe Halloween. -Sukecchi 23:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- That's sweet. Just so long as you're no longer offended. You can imagine the horror I feel knowing that my 13 year old son so offended and distraught a grown man. I so very proud and impressed that you've decided to move on. Rest assured, I'll speak with my son so that he no longer upsets anyone as much as he upset you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Kirby (talk • contribs) 00:13, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- His age has nothing to do with how I am offended. It's what he did. Why don't you understand that? -Sukecchi 02:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's sweet. Just so long as you're no longer offended. You can imagine the horror I feel knowing that my 13 year old son so offended and distraught a grown man. I so very proud and impressed that you've decided to move on. Rest assured, I'll speak with my son so that he no longer upsets anyone as much as he upset you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Kirby (talk • contribs) 00:13, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- "Unsolicited" sounds as if Sukecchi came to your son and told him he was gay. In fact, the relevant userbox sat in his userspace along with such uncontroversial personal information as his being male and what state he lives in. It's common on this site that editors declare facets of their individuality to build a sense of community that creates another incentive for us to be here and work on articles, just as workers everywhere chat around the water cooler and companies tolerate some slacking off as long as the work gets done. We have different standards on a volunteer site, but indicating someone declaring his sexual orientation will make others "feel turned on" is creation of unnecessary drama.--chaser - t 00:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, please. Indicating your sexual orientation to begin with is a creation of unnecesary drama. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Kirby (talk • contribs) 00:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- No, it's not. Tons of people have done it before me and nothing has happened. That box was on my page for a week before your son went and removed it. -Sukecchi 02:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, please. Indicating your sexual orientation to begin with is a creation of unnecesary drama. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Kirby (talk • contribs) 00:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Sukecchi:
You are out of your league, and I'm about to yank my son from influences like you. "Tons of people" you say. In the first place, 'ton' is a measure of weight, not popuation. No one has a problem with your sexuality, we just don't want to read about it on Wikipedia, nor do we want to read how desperate you are for a boyfriend. Dude, get a my space page.
And for you, Chaser: you've become so involved with this site that you are losing touch with reality. Ask yourself what Wikipedia is about, then review your main man Sukecchi's home page. There are people that enjoy defacating on babies but it has nothing to do with Wikipedia. I believe both you and Sukecchi need to get out of the basement, get some freash air, and if you're as intelligent as you thing you are see the world. My wife and I just got back from China, what have the two of you been doing.
One more thing: Sukecchi, that your gay does not mean you cease to be a man. So suck it up and be a man. Men do not get "deeply offended" nor do we go to other men for help when a 13 year old is kicking our ass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Kirby (talk • contribs) 15:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- You mentioned you were going to speak with your son. Have you done so yet?--chaser - t 15:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Trust me, Mr. wants the world to know he's gay. I'm on him hte minute he gets home from school. I wish you no ill will, but my son was on the computor at 3:16 this morning. That won't fly. He is learning a lot from these on-line debates. Are you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Kirby (talk • contribs) 15:34, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- Did you see this related message (the "Should I leave?" section)? I basically suggested a similar thing.--chaser - t 15:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Sir, you most likely won't be able to respond right now, but lemme add my comment in. One of Wikipedia's most stressed rules for articles is a neutral point of view. Obviously you don't believe the gay people should be able to express theirselves on their own pages, but they choose to do it anyway. This has been common practice for almost all of Wikipedia users on their own user page, to put things they like and put what they are. If the person is gay, or if he defecates on babies like you said, let him be. If you don't agree with what the person is, then just ignore it. Just don't vandalise their page with your opinions. That is not providing a neutral point of view.
And if this looks like a jumbled block of words, it is 5:14 AM and I can't get back to sleep.Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 10:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
My god....Mr, you have to understand that we arent a babysitting service, if your son is on here at 3:16, thats your problem, not ours, we arent his parents. And the only one causing drama here is you, good day. Atomic Religione 13:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Green Kirby
This user continues to have issues. In my opinion the user warrents an indef block. Since you are his mentor, I leave it up to you. Rklawton 15:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Le Grand being paranoid
I find his accustation here: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Alkivar/Workshop, very rude and unacceptable. I posted on his page, but I thought I would bring this up to you as well. This latest accustation is further proof he doesn't understand things here. In my view, he needs to start learning things, or limits should be put on him until it's shown he actually understands policies better. RobJ1981 01:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not happy about it, either, as I see no connection to JB196. Le Grand Roi is traveling the next few weeks. That will at least give you all a break from each other. I plan to open a request for comments or mediation involving this whole conflict between various people involved in the pop culture debates. The discord over these articles has gotten destructively personal. Anyway, I'm going to New York tomorrow morning, but I'll be happy to speak with you more next week. Have a good weekend.--chaser - t 03:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Paranoid is posting this drivel after I replied to one of Rob's posts that we can seek mediation after my trip or just agree to disagree and move on. Not following policies is continuing to post on that discussion after two admins indicated it was resolved. I really hoped to keep the evidence that I had on Rob's proxy editing to myself and to never have to post it here. I even avoided AfDs for two days in the hopes that he would finally ignore me and move on. Now, I have to get my things ready for the trip, but let's just put it this way, if you leave me alone Rob and stop worrying about me and all, then I will not need to reply. If you have any more incivil comments to or about me, keep them to yourself. I'll happily do the same for you if you can finally return respect my way. There is a simple solution. You don't post anything further to or about me and I don't post anything further to or about you. Let's just end it right here and now. Walk away from this post on and let's instead focus on bettering this project. I have a mentor, I correspond with admins for advice and I have greatly improved my editing habits over the past few months. I know we ALL can still improve further, but you have gone about advising me in an overly confrontational way that has helped nothing. Let's just forget about each other. Your posting at ANI was so uncalled for and hurtful after I in good faith offered to agree to disagree and/or seek mediation at a later time and especially after I intentionally avoided AfDs from that point onwards to ease tensions. I really hoped to not have to post in Alkivar's arbitration the evidence I compiled and had you let the matter rest for once, I probably wouldn't have. I didn't do it out of revenge, but just in the hopes that these months of criticizing me, trying to find someone who could punish me because I disagree with you on notability, etc. would finally end. I think you'll find editing this site much better if you just walk away and never think about me again. I will once again offer to ignore you and I hope that you will finally do the same. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 06:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- I had every right to post that new section, as your behaviour is unacceptable. These recent paranoid accustations are further proof you need better guidance on Wikipedia. You wont ignore me and you know it. I nominate things you love, so of course you will commment in them. That's certainly not ignoring. Frankly if I do see your behaviour continue, I will bring it up to a conduct page. I'm not going to ignore an editor that clearly has poor conduct. RobJ1981 17:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Paranoid is posting this drivel after I replied to one of Rob's posts that we can seek mediation after my trip or just agree to disagree and move on. Not following policies is continuing to post on that discussion after two admins indicated it was resolved. I really hoped to keep the evidence that I had on Rob's proxy editing to myself and to never have to post it here. I even avoided AfDs for two days in the hopes that he would finally ignore me and move on. Now, I have to get my things ready for the trip, but let's just put it this way, if you leave me alone Rob and stop worrying about me and all, then I will not need to reply. If you have any more incivil comments to or about me, keep them to yourself. I'll happily do the same for you if you can finally return respect my way. There is a simple solution. You don't post anything further to or about me and I don't post anything further to or about you. Let's just end it right here and now. Walk away from this post on and let's instead focus on bettering this project. I have a mentor, I correspond with admins for advice and I have greatly improved my editing habits over the past few months. I know we ALL can still improve further, but you have gone about advising me in an overly confrontational way that has helped nothing. Let's just forget about each other. Your posting at ANI was so uncalled for and hurtful after I in good faith offered to agree to disagree and/or seek mediation at a later time and especially after I intentionally avoided AfDs from that point onwards to ease tensions. I really hoped to not have to post in Alkivar's arbitration the evidence I compiled and had you let the matter rest for once, I probably wouldn't have. I didn't do it out of revenge, but just in the hopes that these months of criticizing me, trying to find someone who could punish me because I disagree with you on notability, etc. would finally end. I think you'll find editing this site much better if you just walk away and never think about me again. I will once again offer to ignore you and I hope that you will finally do the same. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 06:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you, Chaser for helping out with my user page and for your careful response.
I reread the notability section and do want to add some of the original stuff from the article. (I think I accidentally deleted the text at some point and that’s about when the page was deleted.) Also, I never noticed there was a discussion to delete the page – that requires a level of sophistication using Wikipedia that I don’t yet have.
The main problem I am having is that artists (and musicians) are not published in the same way as other notable individuals (see the quote below). Tondino’s project’s don’t get a whole lot of coverage (for that matter, nor do most Canadian artists) but are very interesting for their political content. I would like to include and describe some of the more thought provoking and irritating works.
I don’t think the notability policy nor policies in general are more than guidelines and because of this opinion I would tend to be much more of an inclusionist. More specifically, I would include Tondino’s page because his views on Irrealism tend to express what I feel is at the core of the Indie movement. Irrealism is all about the gigantic negative space engulfing “certainty” – I think the value of Wikipedia is in the expression of that which is not mainstream knowledge – i.e. the negative space – or the outsider’s worldview.
Again, thank you for getting back to me. Joseane 14:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
“The article should document, in a non-partisan manner, what reliable third party sources have published about the subject and, in some circumstances, what the subject may have published about themselves. The writing style should be neutral and factual avoiding both understatement and overstatement. Biographies of living persons should not have trivia sections. Instead, relevant sourced claims should be woven into the article.”