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:::{{u|Piotrus}} checked the BarNarDar account. Neither Fireslow or Icewhiz. Just someone who cares about the area a lot... Yes, I know proxies, but take my word it's neither SPI. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 01:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC) |
:::{{u|Piotrus}} checked the BarNarDar account. Neither Fireslow or Icewhiz. Just someone who cares about the area a lot... Yes, I know proxies, but take my word it's neither SPI. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 01:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks. Please note I just posted an update on the linked talk page. 500/30 looks like a very good idea right now. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 02:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC) |
:::Thanks. Please note I just posted an update on the linked talk page. 500/30 looks like a very good idea right now. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 02:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC) |
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::::Since MS said he is not very familiar with behavioral edivence here and would prefer not to get involved, I'll be reporting stuff here from now. Just freom few minutes ago, there is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vaquero_r%C3%A1pido], restoring Kasia's edit. From the morning, there is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nate874678] (new account POV-pushing in the TA), and from yesterday, another SPI appeared here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Semper_honestus]. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 03:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC) |
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Miraclepine at UTRS
Miraclepine is requesting unblock on UTRS. They have addressed all the issues and I am inclined to unblock, albeit earlier than anticipated. Please let me know if you are agreeable. Thanks, --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 18:10, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Deepfriedokra, I think Bradv mentioned something about them sending him an email with inappropriate images or something similar when he reached out to ArbCom for an unblock. If I’m remembering the correct person, I’d be disinclined to unblock. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:27, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
(Non-anything comment) On their talk page, MP accepted and agreed to the standard offer, including its six-month duration. Looking back, I think that was for the best; I wonder why it isn't any more? serial # 18:34, 14 May 2020 (UTC)- Good to know. How long ago? Sounds like they were not past their "personal issues" and I don't want them to return before they are ready. I left BradV a note too. If I don't here back I will decline and hold them to the SO timeline. --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 18:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- I saw Brad’s ping. I’m less concerned about the email now after discussing it offline. My personal view is that I don’t think Miraclepine will be an asset to this project, so I personally wouldn’t unblock them, but I typically have a stricter view of unblocks than many, so don’t let that prevent you from unblocking if you’re comfortable. Use your judgement here :) TonyBallioni (talk) 19:48, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, see above. Also just a general note that I prefer if they make the appeal on-wiki with TPA if you’re considering granting— that way it’s public what they say. Otherwise, like I said, use your judgement even if I’m skeptical :) TonyBallioni (talk) 21:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- I saw Brad’s ping. I’m less concerned about the email now after discussing it offline. My personal view is that I don’t think Miraclepine will be an asset to this project, so I personally wouldn’t unblock them, but I typically have a stricter view of unblocks than many, so don’t let that prevent you from unblocking if you’re comfortable. Use your judgement here :) TonyBallioni (talk) 19:48, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Good to know. How long ago? Sounds like they were not past their "personal issues" and I don't want them to return before they are ready. I left BradV a note too. If I don't here back I will decline and hold them to the SO timeline. --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 18:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, Tony. Restoring TPA sounds like a good first step. But maybe not till tomorrow. --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 21:15, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yep. I agree. I’m comfortable with you doing whatever you think is best here. No real “objection” from me if you’re convinced. Just skepticism. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:17, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Technical error amendment
A while ago it was pointed out that there is a technical error [1], in the article sourcing expectations the text states to cover all articles on the topic of Polish history during World War II (1933-45), but it should state 1939-1945.This wasn't changed. Can somebody fix this or should petition be made?--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- I wasn’t involved with the original case, but I was involved with drafting a restriction in the German War Effort case. The 1933-1945 dates were used in that case to mean anything in the nazi error and I think using the 1933-1945 definition of World War II and it’s run up makes a lot of sense for consistency purposes. Basically the idea is that we’re saying Hitler and his megalomania were a big enough force in Europe in the 1930s that the timeframe on the continent is likely to be read through that lens. As such, sanctions surrounding WW2 should have a broad timeframe to encompass the road to war (also cc’ing Worm That Turned since he commented on that thread.) TonyBallioni (talk) 14:22, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Email from blocked user
Hello. I received an email from User:Wumbolo completely out-of-the-blue this afternoon, in which they reported an alleged sock puppet on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tara Reade. I thought the email was odd, and didn't immediately remember that Wumbolo had been indefinitely blocked a few months ago. Seeing as you were the blocking admin, I thought I would bring this to your attention just to be on the safe side. Sorry if this is an overreaction. For reference, the text of the message is as-follows:
There's a sock at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tara Reade. Napoleonjosephine2020 is a sock of Monab2020. The names are similar, they registered their accounts within an hour, they are both SPAs, and they both posted in a same AfD. This is a bit old situation, but it should be taken care of, so there is no way it can influence the current Tara Reade AfD. Please report it to SPI.
Thanks, KidAd (talk) 23:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- Revoked their email. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Unblock request: GargAvinash/Kumargargavinash
I see you closed this AN thread. No issue with you instating (reinstating) the block. However, I'd like a chance for my proposal to gain consensus. The discussion is obviously not new but my proposal is and so far had a favorable reception. Could it be re-opened so that there would be a chance to see what the consensus for it might be? Thanks and best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- No problem with starting a subthread under it. I was alluding to your proposal in my close, but didn’t mention it directly because I didn’t think it’d get consensus without extending the discussion past its natural end, but if there’s a subthread it might attract attention and get resolved in a few days. I think having it combined with the initial discussion would make it less likely to get comments/more difficult to determine consensus since you’d be somewhat mixing proposals. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:57, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- TonyBallioni, yeah I was also thinking of a distinct subthread. So great minds. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:17, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Getting ridiculous...
But could someone deal with this sorts of edits? diff --Ealdgyth (talk) 12:08, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Ealdgyth see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fireslow. We're not entirely sure what is going on here (I don't mind admitting that.) There are a ton of proxies both at the Fireslow and Icewhiz SPIs, and we think at least two different people. I'm not really sure if this is actually a Polish nationalist or an LTA trolling because they realize it's a high dramah area right now, but it's probably the most frustrating content/admin/CU area I've worked in. If you see anything more like this where it looks like a sock and is more aggressive than a civil POV pusher type, I'd either block as a Fireslow sock or report it to that SPI and Berean Hunter and I can take a look. I'm personally hoping ArbCom does go with the 500/30 rule for the entire topic area at this point because dealing with all this only from an SPI perspective would not be fun. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not comfortable blocking myself because of my (minimal but still there) involvement in the topic area. Luckily, it got handled. The whole topic area is ... I don't have enough cuss words, I don't think. --Ealdgyth (talk) 20:40, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- I've decided to withdraw from editing the area. It may be the worst I've seen on Wikipedia. I tried briefly in response to the Grabowski article, but I can't keep going. SarahSV (talk) 23:46, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- I stopped helping as an admin in the area for about a year after someone went on a neo-Nazi website to praise me for my putting Jews in their place and a friend on Wikipedia. Obviously a false-flag account meant to paint me as an antisemite beloved by the worst of humanity, but I don’t particularly like off-wiki attempts to get people to think libelous things about me. It’s truly toxic. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:51, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- That's the kind of thing to expect. I'm sorry that happened to you. I think I was heading toward it too. I've been accused on my talk page of trying to play down the negative nature of one particular antisemitic idea, which is not only false but my edits show the opposite. There's no commitment in the topic area to accuracy or following mainstream scholarship. It's all about advocacy. Any solution would have to be systemic and involve the community, functionaries and ArbCom. It can't be left to individuals. SarahSV (talk) 00:03, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- I stopped helping as an admin in the area for about a year after someone went on a neo-Nazi website to praise me for my putting Jews in their place and a friend on Wikipedia. Obviously a false-flag account meant to paint me as an antisemite beloved by the worst of humanity, but I don’t particularly like off-wiki attempts to get people to think libelous things about me. It’s truly toxic. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:51, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- I've decided to withdraw from editing the area. It may be the worst I've seen on Wikipedia. I tried briefly in response to the Grabowski article, but I can't keep going. SarahSV (talk) 23:46, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not comfortable blocking myself because of my (minimal but still there) involvement in the topic area. Luckily, it got handled. The whole topic area is ... I don't have enough cuss words, I don't think. --Ealdgyth (talk) 20:40, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
There is little I can do, but I've semi-protected a couple of them for really, really long. Drmies (talk) 00:55, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
vandalism
Please consider checking contribution made by user: Alex1981march he added a non-notable and fake name to cast list after adding it to IMDB to create a fake reference — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.59.1.61 (talk) 08:16, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Where to report
Likely Fireslow-like accounts like this one? Will VIP be ok? PS. Also ping User:Ealdgyth and User:Drmies (semi?). And User:Materialscientist, in context of User_talk:Materialscientist#Where_to_report (tnx for blocking the sock, but a reply on what to do would be nice, even if it is just 'report them to my talk page'). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Piotrus, sorry for the late response. I've been busy w/ work and also trying to take a break from this specific case for a day or two :) I'll look tomorrow night my time if that's okay. Might respond via email for WP:BEANS reasons. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- No hurry. When you look into this do check the linked talk page where I have reported several new socks since. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Piotrus checked the BarNarDar account. Neither Fireslow or Icewhiz. Just someone who cares about the area a lot... Yes, I know proxies, but take my word it's neither SPI. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. Please note I just posted an update on the linked talk page. 500/30 looks like a very good idea right now. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Since MS said he is not very familiar with behavioral edivence here and would prefer not to get involved, I'll be reporting stuff here from now. Just freom few minutes ago, there is [2], restoring Kasia's edit. From the morning, there is [3] (new account POV-pushing in the TA), and from yesterday, another SPI appeared here: [4]. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- No hurry. When you look into this do check the linked talk page where I have reported several new socks since. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)